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Scripture Commentary article 2024-02-07

Why Mike Winger is Wrong About “Authenteō” in 1 Timothy 2:12 – and Why It Matters

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the meaning of authenteō in 1 Timothy 2:12

1 Cor. 7:13 1 Corinthians 12:27-31 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Debates
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-20

@LauraRicha42528 @_nomadic_soul @LifeWithoutLack @DrFrankTurek Here's an actual early Greek manuscript (P46) from Romans 12, something written by Paul. https://t.co/saOXJexSY6 Pretty clear there's no punctuation or spacing. You have to be great and...

@LauraRicha42528 @_nomadic_soul @LifeWithoutLack @DrFrankTurek Here's an actual early Greek manuscript (P46) from Romans 12, something written by Paul. https://t.co/saOXJexSY6 Pretty clear there's no

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-24

@tome708 @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin You are wrong sir. I’m in a church t

@tome708 @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin You are wrong sir. I’m in a church that is egalitarian and is leaving the denomination because they were accepting gay pastors. A female pastor is not an a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-24

@tome708 @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin A woman preaching true doctrine or acting as a pastor/elder/deacon has absolutely nothing to do with sexual immorality. It is not cancer or the seed of cancer. However, you are right that if someone is del...

@tome708 @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin A woman preaching true doctrine or acting as a pastor/elder/deacon has absolutely nothing to do with sexual immorality. It is not cancer or the seed of canc

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-23

@JosephConkle9 @L_T_Pearson @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin I read Paul’s comments in the SAME letter where he says similar things about women ruling their homes to help understand that what he means in 1 Tim 3 can certainly include women (in Paul’...

@JosephConkle9 @L_T_Pearson @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin I read Paul’s comments in the SAME letter where he says similar things about women ruling their homes to help understand that what he mean

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@Bunnick @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin The term deacon is in the male form as this is the default when including both men and women. Note there are no male pronouns and nothing stating “an elder/deacon must not be a woman.” Deborah was from the...

@Bunnick @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin The term deacon is in the male form as this is the default when including both men and women. Note there are no male pronouns and nothing stating “an elder/

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@Bunnick @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin I don't understand your objection. 1

@Bunnick @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin I don't understand your objection. 1 Tim 3 on elders and deacons doesn't say "fathers"...

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@L_T_Pearson @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin After giving the requirements for elders and deacons (with no male pronouns, but using the male gender), Paul says “women likewise” or in the same way or identically. He then says another point about de...

@L_T_Pearson @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin After giving the requirements for elders and deacons (with no male pronouns, but using the male gender), Paul says “women likewise” or in the same way or

debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@L_T_Pearson @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin I know that gyne can mean woman o

@L_T_Pearson @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin I know that gyne can mean woman or wife. Here it is plural and accusative. If it referred to the wife of a husband, wouldn’t it be genitive? Your limi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@JosephConkle9 @L_T_Pearson @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin I see. So in Paul’s advice concerning younger widows, he advises them to remarry and “manage their households”… (1Tim5:14). This word means “rule” or “despot” or “master” or “absolute ru...

@JosephConkle9 @L_T_Pearson @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin I see. So in Paul’s advice concerning younger widows, he advises them to remarry and “manage their households”… (1Tim5:14). This word me

1Tim5:14 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin I don’t know about your kids, but I teach mine to read in context. Paul was quoting from the letter from the Corinthians 1Cor7:1. 1Cor14:36 refutes the quote by saying, “What? Came the word of God out from you [men...

@RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin I don’t know about your kids, but I teach mine to read in context. Paul was quoting from the letter from the Corinthians 1Cor7:1. 1Cor14:36 refutes the quote by say

1Cor14:36 1Cor7:1 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin “After 2000 years of study”⎯ you realize that

@RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin “After 2000 years of study”⎯ you realize that the Jewish leaders had many years of study and they completely missed the Messiah? Paul didn’t have a wife or children.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@L_T_Pearson @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin Where does it say “his” wife or “

@L_T_Pearson @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin Where does it say “his” wife or “their” wives? It just says “women likewise…”. Why are the women to have the same requirements if they cannot be elders

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin There are no male pronouns in 1 Tim 3. V11 sa

@RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin There are no male pronouns in 1 Tim 3. V11 says “Women likewise…”. Isn’t it possible that the male only leadership model you were taught wasn’t Biblical?

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Theology verse entry

Ephesians 5:18-33

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Ephesians 5:18-33 mutual submission,kephale,source,marriage,kenosis,Spirit-filled,husbands love,wives submit,egalitarian,hupotasso,allelon,household code,head-body metaphor,agapao,self-sacrifice,great mystery,Christ and church,one flesh
Theology greek term

ὑποτασσόμενοι (hypotassomenoi)

submitting, placing oneself under

greek
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Anthony Thiselton's summary of the manuscript evidence

Mike quotes scholar Anthony Thiselton summarizing which manuscripts have the verses in which location.

Anthony Thiselton P46 manuscript D
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Key facts: earliest displacement is 4th century; earliest attestation is circa 200 AD in traditional spot

Mike presents the timeline evidence favoring the traditional placement.

P46 Ambrosiaster scripture integrity