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Scripture Commentary article 2022-11-25

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Women Leaders in the New Testament (PART A)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 4 on women leaders in the New Testament (Part A)

1 Cor. 12:1–30 1 Corinthians 1:11 1 Corinthians 1:16 Women in Leadership Complementarianism Debates
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-07-03

@EricisAmerican @Protestia Can you list who specifically the NT notes as being c

@EricisAmerican @Protestia Can you list who specifically the NT notes as being called a pastor (poimen)? How about who is explicitly called an elder (presbyteros)? How about overseer (episkopos)?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@Methodios007 The Greek word πρεσβύτερος (presbyteros), which literally means "elder" is used to denote someone recognized with wisdom and the ability to lead and teach and with godly character. The term for overseer is ἐπίσκοπος (episkopos) which t...

@Methodios007 The Greek word πρεσβύτερος (presbyteros), which literally means "elder" is used to denote someone recognized with wisdom and the ability to lead and teach and with godly character. The

commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-09

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine These functions are all overlapping. We use the term pastor, but this doesn't seem to be stated anywhere in the New Testament about anyone. It is a function, not a role. It seems that overseer (episkopos) and elder (presbyte...

@deadtosin610 @JollyStine These functions are all overlapping. We use the term pastor, but this doesn't seem to be stated anywhere in the New Testament about anyone. It is a function, not a role. It s

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-26

@RobertMacD0nald @smashbaals Pastors and elders/bishop/overseer are synonymous. Deacons are leaders who are not required to teach. - Name one person in the NT church in scripture who was referred to as a shepherd. - Name one person in the NT church...

@RobertMacD0nald @smashbaals Pastors and elders/bishop/overseer are synonymous. Deacons are leaders who are not required to teach. - Name one person in the NT church in scripture who was referred to

1 Tim 3:1-2 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-24

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals BTW, if you have access to search the Greek text, just look these works up yourself and you will see how episkopos and presbyteros are used interchangeably and poimen is assumed (as no one i...

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals BTW, if you have access to search the Greek text, just look these works up yourself and you will see how episkopos and presbyteros are used

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-24

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals Oh, please show me where Timothy is called a bishop? I see all these terms, bishop/overseer/elder/pastor to all end up meaning the same thing as they end up being used interchangeably, but ...

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals Oh, please show me where Timothy is called a bishop? I see all these terms, bishop/overseer/elder/pastor to all end up meaning the same thi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-24

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals Bishop/overseer (ἐπίσκοπος, episkopos) and elder (πρεσβύτερος, presbyteros) are used interchangeably in scripture when speaking of leaders in the church. We might use them differently now, ...

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals Bishop/overseer (ἐπίσκοπος, episkopos) and elder (πρεσβύτερος, presbyteros) are used interchangeably in scripture when speaking of leaders i

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Theology verse entry

Psalm 109:8

Sections: cross_references, exegesis, greek_analysis

Psalm 109:8 apostolate,office,episkope,Matthias,Judas,replacement
Theology verse entry

Titus 2:3-5

Sections: debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Titus 2:3-5 older women,teaching,presbutidas,domestic myths,egalitarian,women in ministry
Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 3:1-4

Sections: greek_analysis

1 Timothy 3:1-4 elder,overseer,pastor,qualifications,women,tis,husband-of-one-wife,polygamy
Theology verse entry

Acts 1:16-26

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Acts 1:16-26 Judas,betrayal,foreknowledge,sovereignty,prophecy fulfillment,predestination,free will,apostolate,Matthias,Paul,twelve,lot,human initiative
Theology greek term

ἐπισκοπή (episkopē)

office, oversight, supervision

greek
Theology greek term

πρεσβύτερος (presbuteros)

elder, older man; church overseer/leader by seniority

greek
Mike Winger idea 2022-04-13

Central egalitarian claim: hosting a house church made you the leader/overseer of that church

Mike identifies this as a pervasive claim that recurs throughout egalitarian literature.

Linda Belleville hosting vs. leading overseer
Mike Winger idea 2022-04-13

Elder, overseer, bishop, and presbyter are all the same biblical role

Mike clarifies terminology before discussing eldership requirements.

overseer episkopos elder
Mike Winger idea 2020-12-04

Women serving as elders is not Winger's current biblical position, but he plans a thorough future research project before finalizing his view.

Question from Patience Kachidza about a mother-in-law ordained as an elder in a church.

Women in ministry Women as elders Church leadership
Mike Winger idea 2021-01-22

Ministry titles and the clergy-laity distinction: what Jesus really forbade in Matthew 23

Chris Horn asked whether Matthew 23:8-12 prohibits using ministry titles like pastor or elder.

1 Timothy 3 Galatians 3:28 Matthew 23:8-12 servant leadership overseer episkopos
Pulpit research note

"Words Matter" — Elder, Pastor, Overseer Distinctions

At 12:19, he says "Sometimes people say it's just semantics, but words matter, they really matter" — and then proceeds to flatten the very distinctions God's inspired words preserve. He claims elder