Creation Order ?

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Dave, “Now, in regards to the use of the word “teach” and “authentein”, how can it be positive in this context? Paul is saying he does not permit it. Nowhere has Paul suggested that it is ok for anyo...

Mark, in regards to your Hamburger quote, I agree with him. We cannot assume that Paul thinks teaching is positive or negative, and as we cannot (I assume) agree with authentein we have to see if ther...

Mark, > “We can’t agree here at all because my point is that the “cultural practice” of the head covering is an ungodly practice and Paul states so by saying that it shames Christ.” > > Yes, for the ...

Hello Friends, Here is a quote from another blog by someone I think may be a pastor explaining why creation order means ‘authority’ over women: “I do not have a lot of space to go into all of the poi...

Gidday Lin if Adam ‘called’ the one from his bone and flesh ‘wo-man’ (out of man) in Gen 2:24 as a naming / authority thing, then what exactly was he doing in Gen 3:20 when we are told, “?… Adam na...

I’m glad the focus will be on [1 Tim. 2](logos4:///Bible/1Ti 2), because Dr. Nyland’s notes for this book are available for free at [This Link](http://www.godswordtowomen.org/studies/resources/Source/...

Heidi, what are your thoughts on the opening post? What about this part? “I had come to believe that though it was important to understand isolated texts on their own terms, it was nevertheless futi...

Cheryl, I was very sorry to read Kamilla’s response. I thought your rules of engagment were very protective for her. And I agree that a public correction is the only option here. We must all test ever...

As the discussion of subordinationism unfolds, I notice a curious fact. When the egalitarian offers a non-traditional interpretation of 1 Tim 2, the male-supremacist refers to Gen 3 which, it is claim...

You would think a Calvinist like Slick would know a tautology when he sees one (since many of them pride themselves on their use of logic), but apparently he neither sees it nor expects anyone else to...

They see Priscilla as a moot point because she is always named with Aquila. Therefore she is under her husband’s authority. That is how some comp women get by with teaching in public today. Cheryl, T...

Another reason CBMW has been inconsistent is because some of their contributors, such as Russell Moore, have been publicly advocating more Patriarchy. He has written that complimentarianism  is too wi...

“I myself do NOT see them as inconsistent, GIVEN their interpretive choices.  However, the very idea of interpretive choices is somewhere they do not want to go, as they know they will then lose.” Do...

Putting on the CBMW hat as best I can: “Because the Bible does not use the supposed creation order to discuss society order, neither should we.  In society it may be the case that men are desired as...

“Because the Bible does not use the supposed creation order to discuss society order, neither should we. In society it may be the case that men are desired as leaders as a general statement, but they ...

Creation order also implies created for different purposes.  If this is so that women were not created for leadership but only created to follow the leadership of men, then it wouldn’t matter what rea...

CBMW quote:”They will see in the example of Christ, as never before, the beauty and glory that inheres in gracious, selfless submission. With both man and woman thus perfected and transformed, are we ...

Lin, CBMW is consistently pointing to “creation order” but has failed time and time again to provide one iota of proof that Adam was created to rule over Eve or that Eve was created to be under the r...

[quote]First of all let’s look at all the bible verses that say that the male is to have leadership over the female because of his first creation. There are exactly zero verses in the scripture giving...

‘God did not make Adam and Eve from the ground at the same time and for one another without distinction.’ This creates a thought on Genesis where it is written that God created Adam from the ground....