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Comment by gengwall

Mark claims that Adam had the “priority” in authority over the animals and that his expression of that authority was naming the animals. As a converse

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2010-03-05

Comment by sm

In the study of literature from any genre, all too often the simplicity of the message is lost in the over analyzing and in particular in the defendin

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2010-03-05

Comment by Kay

“Genesis 16:13 (NASB) 13 Then she called the name of the LORD who spoke to her, “You are a God who sees”; for she said, “Have I even remained alive

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2010-03-05

Comment by pinklight

I’m going to bed now. 🙂 The case is closed.

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2010-03-05

Comment by pinklight

> God creates her with an identity that Adam does not originate, I’m reminded of one of my previous comments a few days back or something – oh yeah #

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2010-03-05

Comment by pinklight

> We are talking about the term “woman”. And if we were to deal with the idea of the mother of the living, God Himself identified that she would be th

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2010-03-05

Comment by pinklight

> The Bible does not say that God made a female and brought her to Adam to see what he would call her. We cannot assume that the bringing of the bride

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2010-03-05

Comment by pinklight

Love that point!! 🙂

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2010-03-05

Comment by pinklight

> It is interesting that God never identified His bringing the woman to the man as having a purpose of seeing what man would call her. God already had

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2010-03-05

Comment by Cheryl Schatz

Mark, You said: > Naming her was the mans responsibility. Sigh! Where does it say that in text? There is no authority or responsibility given in t

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2010-03-05

Comment by Cheryl Schatz

Mark, I am wondering if this long set of questions its the tome that you were wanting to write on my blog? Continuing with your points, you said: >

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2010-03-05

Comment by Cheryl Schatz

Mark, You said: > I simply believe that historical relevance is all important in understanding the bible. After all if we reject that, how can we p

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2010-03-05

Comment by Cheryl Schatz

Mark, You said: > 4. I am not trying to offend or attack you with the Islamic relations. But your deliberate denial of historical relevance is not

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2010-03-05

Comment by Cheryl Schatz

Mark, You said: > I understand that essentially you are saying that because the narrative says “he made into a woman” (Gen 2:22), that this narrati

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2010-03-04

Comment by Cheryl Schatz

Gazza, You said: > I would not for a second say that Adam had authority over the animals in the same way he had authority over Eve – so there is no

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2010-03-04

Comment by Cheryl Schatz

Mark, You said to Kay: > We know polygamy is wrong because the Jesus tells us that. Naming on the other hand is something God gave Adam to do so th

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2010-03-04

Comment by Cheryl Schatz

Mark, You said: > I disagree Pinklight that Adam naming Eve didn’t give her some identity. The fact that ”isshah’, is th feminine form of ”ish’ is

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2010-03-04

Comment by Cheryl Schatz

Gazza, You asked pinklight: > What do you think of the narrator specifically not saying God named Eve woman but leaving that for Adam? The narrator

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2010-03-04

Comment by Cheryl Schatz

pinklight, > And it is the question because she was already designated as woman before she was brought to the man whereas on the other hand the anima

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2010-03-04

Comment by Cheryl Schatz

Gazza, You said: > . I don’t see how God in making Eve a woman detracts from the significance of Adam naming her. Surely the fact that in the text i

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2010-03-04

Comment by Cheryl Schatz

pinklight, You asked: > Did God make lions tigers and bears? Or did he make animals (that were named by Adam)? > Did God make woman? Or did he ma

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2010-03-04

Comment by Kay

“1. So God didn’t name things in Gen 1, he just classified them aswell? God therefore should not be understood as having authority over his creation i

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2010-03-04

Comment by Kay

“I am not saying that only Adam or men named their children. Naming to a hebrew indicates authority, therefore Eve had authority over her kids. Likewi

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2010-03-04

Comment by Dr. James Willingham

Dear Cheryl: I enjoyed and appreciated you comments on the generic usage in I Tim.3:1. Whe I gave my address in 1985 on the subject, “Th Genius of Ort

Does Husband Of One Wife Disqualify Women From Being A Pastor
2010-03-04

Comment by Kay

Mark wrote: “Although parents are in authority does that mean we lors it. Do you lord it over your children Kay. I’m sure you dont (if you have kids).

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2010-03-04

Comment by Cheryl Schatz

Hey Craig, Glad you purchased my DVDs. Now I know which Craig you are! I think you will find the DVDs very helpful especially because they deal with

Does Husband Of One Wife Disqualify Women From Being A Pastor
2010-03-04

Comment by pinklight

> Even if Adam had authority over the animals prior to Eve, Eve aquired that authority in equal measure upon her creation. Eve can’t be subject to an

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2010-03-04

Comment by Cheryl Schatz

I have some questions for those who believe that Adam calling his wife “woman” means that he took authority over her. Can you please tell me why God w

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2010-03-04

Comment by pinklight

> 1. So God didn’t name things in Gen 1, he just classified them aswell? God therefore should not be understood as having authority over his creation

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Comment by gengwall

10. Adam’s classification of Eve differs from that of the animals in that Eve was first classified by God. With the animals, Adam’s classification was

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Comment by gengwall

And that is number 10 Pinklight

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Comment by gengwall

#5 above got messed up: > 5.” Even if Adam had authority over the animals prior to Eve, Eve aquired that authority in equal measure upon her creation

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2010-03-04

Comment by gengwall

“If Moses said that Adam named Eve, what would that mean to a hebrew? It would mean something to them. Does this make sense?” Certainly. But the He

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2010-03-04

Comment by gengwall

Mark – “I am not saying that only Adam or men named their children. Naming to a hebrew indicates authority” So how come, outside of Genesis, there is

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2010-03-04

Comment by gengwall

> 1. So God didn’t name things in Gen 1, he just classified them aswell? God therefore should not be understood as having authority over his creation

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Comment by pinklight

gengwall, I really like your idea of the list! I also want to say that I think the most important points are the two below and the reasons being th

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2010-03-04

Comment by Mark

continuing on… if we should agree with your over-literal interpretion, and ignore the significance of hebrew language, should we not therefore also c

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2010-03-04

Comment by Mark

gengwell I am not saying Hebrew culture affected Adam and Eve. Simply to understand the hebrew language (which is obviously what the creation account

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Comment by Mark

Kay, So Eve didn’t have authority over her children? OF course she did. The bible tells us that children should obey and submit to their parents- tha

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2010-03-04

Comment by Mark

gengwell, 1. So God didn’t name things in Gen 1, he just classified them aswell? God therefore should not be understood as having authority over his

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Comment by Kay

Mark, Even if you want to argue for possessing authority by naming, that doesn’t stand up to the Hebrew’s cultural practices in the Bible. The fir

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Comment by gengwall

Mark – the Hebraic culture certainly might have had an impact on Moses’ writing as it dealt with the law and other contemporary matters, but it can’t

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2010-03-04

Comment by Mark

We are obviously not even on the same page to begin with. My view is that what was written by the author needs to be understood within his culture, in

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2010-03-04

Comment by gengwall

I think we will repost a complete list further down. Trust me, I am keeping track. Now, was that one or two reasons. It seems like one: 9. God define

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Comment by Kay

gengwall, How about renumbering and posting the entire list. What about?: God defines his own creation when it comes to those who are created in

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Comment by gengwall

8. God never states anywhere in scripture that naming something grants or is an expression of authority. The cultural argument is just that – a cultur

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Comment by Kay

“1.5” LOL

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Comment by Kay

gengwall, Yes, it’s rather like Mark’s thinking on Gen.3:16 – he can’t have it both ways – the comp’s “Adam’s authority over” Eve, can’t be both “

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2010-03-04

Comment by gengwall

Already remembered another one. This goes between 1 and 2. 1.5 No culture existed in the garden for Adam to look back on, therefore the argument that

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2010-03-04

Comment by gengwall

I’m starting a list – please feel free to add to it. So far I find 6 solid reasons why Adam’s “naming” of Eve in Genesis 2 could not be considered a p

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2010-03-04
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