Cheryl Schatz
2008-09-22
Yes, the issue of capitals doesn’t work because of the way the originals were written in all caps. It is also my understanding that the accents were also not in the oldest manuscripts so that would appear to be a later addition, although helpful, it doesn’t appear to be inspired.
gengwall,
I agree with you in that I am not saying that the term “but” means that a quotation is referenced. It is only when “but” presents a contrary view to what was just presented that we can consider that Paul is referencing a quote. This is where 1 Corinthians 10:23 is shown to be presenting a contrary view. The ESV, NET, NIV, NRSV are some of the versions that put quotation marks in this verse as referencing a quotation of the Corinthians. The Montgomery Centenary Translation of the New Testament also has quotation marks around verses 34 & 35 including the ending of verse 33.
In my DVD I bring up a quotation of Sir William Ramsay who says “We should be ready to suspect Paul is making a quotation from the letter addressed to him by the Corinthians whenever he alludes to their knowledge or when any statement stands in marked contrast either with the immediate context or with Paul’s known views.”
This also appears to be the case in 1 Cor. 7:1 where the ESV and the NET bible also put the quotation marks indicating that Paul is referencing a position quoted from the Corinthians. Again we see the word “but” in 1 Cor. 7:2, but again “but” means nothing aside for the fact that verse 2 appears to contradict a position quoted in verse 1.
In 1 Cor. 14 the quotation is not marked with a “but”. It is marked with the Greek word “n”. It also is a strong indication that Paul is refuting the position just quoted in verses 34 & 35. Again, in my DVD I go through all of the documentation proving that it is impossible for verses 34 & 35 to be Paul’s position since the inspired wording of verse 36 is grammatically set up as a refutation. What is verse 36 refuting? It cannot be that Paul is refuting some imaginery reaction to verses 34 & 35 that he thinks that Corinthians would give when they read Paul’s words. The documentation I give shows that the inspired wording must set verse 36 as a marked contrast to what had just been quoted. This is also a very important reason why verse 36 must be kept in its position. Some manuscripts have this verse at the very end of the chapter but this cannot be. Verse 36 is very carefully worded as a refutation and if is removed from its position, there is nothing to refute.
As far as 1 Cor. 11 I am not convinced at all that there is a quotation in the passage. I see no marked contrast in the passage and no carefully worded refutation of a position. I have exegeted this passage in my DVD to show that it can be demonstrated that the entire passage is Paul’s words in answer to questions about women, headcoverings and hair and Paul uses this as an opportunity to preach our dependence on each other and that God is the ultimate source of all things so that neither male nor female is lifted up as being more important than the other.
Paul also points to customs that can be respected but should not override our loyalty to Christ and the honor due him. Any custom that dishonors Christ must be abandoned and any custom that separates believers also should not be held onto.
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