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Scripture Commentary article 2011-04-14

1 Timothy 212 Prohibitions Revisited

I started a post months ago and then life became so complicated I had to set my blog aside to cope. This post will now be the new “home” on the discussion on whether 1 Timothy 2:12 has two prohibitions or one

1 Timothy 1:20 1 Timothy 1:3 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-17

@LynnCDell2 @ronhenzel What you think is clear is because it’s the only way you’ve read these passages. If you hadn’t noticed, there are no male pronouns in the Greek of 1 Tim 3:1-13, there’s no “must not be a woman,” the “one wife husband”—whatever ...

@LynnCDell2 @ronhenzel What you think is clear is because it’s the only way you’ve read these passages. If you hadn’t noticed, there are no male pronouns in the Greek of 1 Tim 3:1-13, there’s no “must

1 Tim 3:1-13 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-14

@will_servant This is true. Though this letter is Paul describing how HE should act (1 Tim 3:15), so even then it’s not quite what they think. This is about Paul instructing Timothy on how to ensure the false teaching is properly dealt with which inc...

@will_servant This is true. Though this letter is Paul describing how HE should act (1 Tim 3:15), so even then it’s not quite what they think. This is about Paul instructing Timothy on how to ensure t

1 Tim 3:15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-14

@ZachWLambert Most complementarians don’t believe that women can’t share the gospel. While I don’t agree with Zach on same sex unions, and I’m not sure how he gets his egalitarian views from 1 Tim 2:11-15 and 1 Tim 3:1-13, I agree with his conclusio...

@ZachWLambert Most complementarians don’t believe that women can’t share the gospel. While I don’t agree with Zach on same sex unions, and I’m not sure how he gets his egalitarian views from 1 Tim 2:

1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Tim 3:1-13 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@Keith_J_Gaddy @ronhenzel What's out of context? Did I say that Timothy was all 3 or how he is to select elders and deacons applies to him? BTW, the text in 1 Tim 3:14 literally uses the singular "you." So if you have another explanation that fits t...

@Keith_J_Gaddy @ronhenzel What's out of context? Did I say that Timothy was all 3 or how he is to select elders and deacons applies to him? BTW, the text in 1 Tim 3:14 literally uses the singular "yo

1 Tim 3:14 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@TBush1689 @pastherandie @Ashwin_Vengayil @TimothyMHurst @DaxEverts @DoctrinesofRad @MikeWingerii On basis do you conclude this? Surely you are not referring to 1 Tim 3:1–13, which has no male pronouns, nowhere, says “must not be a woman”, and even s...

@TBush1689 @pastherandie @Ashwin_Vengayil @TimothyMHurst @DaxEverts @DoctrinesofRad @MikeWingerii On basis do you conclude this? Surely you are not referring to 1 Tim 3:1–13, which has no male pronoun

1 Tim 3:1 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@DoctrinesofRad @MikeWingerii @pastherandie I taught all the following in four 1.5hr sessions: Gen 1-3, 1 Cor 11:1-16, 1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Tim 3:1-13. The only reason @MikeWingerii needed 11 1/2 hours for this single passage in first Ti...

@DoctrinesofRad @MikeWingerii @pastherandie I taught all the following in four 1.5hr sessions: Gen 1-3, 1 Cor 11:1-16, 1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Tim 3:1-13. The only reason @MikeWingerii neede

1 Cor 11:1-16 1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-07

@ball_dummy @William_E_Wolfe 1 Pet 2:25 refers to Jesus as the shepherd and overseer of our souls. What makes that require overseers to be only males? 1 Tim 3:1 uses “tis” which is neutral for anyone or someone. Paul doesn’t use male pronouns. 1 Ti...

@ball_dummy @William_E_Wolfe 1 Pet 2:25 refers to Jesus as the shepherd and overseer of our souls. What makes that require overseers to be only males? 1 Tim 3:1 uses “tis” which is neutral for anyone

1 Pet 2:25 1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Tim 3:1 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-07

@_KyleBerry @William_E_Wolfe Probably not…not sure what Ovis Aries is. 🤷‍♂️ Oh

@_KyleBerry @William_E_Wolfe Probably not…not sure what Ovis Aries is. 🤷‍♂️ Oh you mean overseers. Was there a “must not be a woman” somewhere in 1 Tim 3:1-13 that I missed? What about v11 “Women lik

1 Tim 3:1-13 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-07

@JollyStine @MegaChurchMouse @CatherineMcNiel @William_E_Wolfe Yes...and notice how Paul says in Titus 2:3, "Older women likewise..."⎯did Paul mean that only older men are to be temperate, dignified, self-controlled, sound in faith in love and in per...

@JollyStine @MegaChurchMouse @CatherineMcNiel @William_E_Wolfe Yes...and notice how Paul says in Titus 2:3, "Older women likewise..."⎯did Paul mean that only older men are to be temperate, dignified,

Titus 2:3 1 Tim 3:11 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-07

@ErikWriter @William_E_Wolfe No, because Paul was an elder and he wasn't a husband. So it could idiomatically mean "faithful if married" but it cannot mean husband (and therefore cannot mean male). We have no statement "must not be a woman" nor do we...

@ErikWriter @William_E_Wolfe No, because Paul was an elder and he wasn't a husband. So it could idiomatically mean "faithful if married" but it cannot mean husband (and therefore cannot mean male). We

Tit 1:5-9 1 Tim 3:1-13 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-07

@TheMuppetPastor If you think it’s restricted because of 1 Tim 3:1-13… https://t

@TheMuppetPastor If you think it’s restricted because of 1 Tim 3:1-13… https://t.co/EBzpnqJmk0

1 Tim 3:1-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-06

@ApostolicSage @William_E_Wolfe Thanks for the Greek lesson. I have Logos Bible software so I have no problem searching for every variation of the dictionary form. You should also know that just because a noun is masculine doesn't mean that it appli...

@ApostolicSage @William_E_Wolfe Thanks for the Greek lesson. I have Logos Bible software so I have no problem searching for every variation of the dictionary form. You should also know that just beca

1 Tim 3:1 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-06

@Furly43974976 @William_E_Wolfe The thing is, while some have been searching all

@Furly43974976 @William_E_Wolfe The thing is, while some have been searching all over for evidence of women, we’ve got 1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Tim 3:1-13/Titus 1:5-9, Gen 1-3 etc well covered

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Tim 3:1-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-06

@Richard89885354 @William_E_Wolfe There is no reason in 1 Tim 3:1-13 and Titus 1

@Richard89885354 @William_E_Wolfe There is no reason in 1 Tim 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 that women cannot be overseers, bishops, shepherds/pastors or deacons. https://t.co/EBzpnqJmk0

Titus 1:5-9 1 Tim 3:1-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-05

@Richard89885354 @MarkGrote No, but the translators thought that males were only supposed to be overseers, so they used English that seems confusing. Once you realize the Greek doesn’t have male pronouns in 1 Tim 3:1-13 or Titus 1:5-9, then you start...

@Richard89885354 @MarkGrote No, but the translators thought that males were only supposed to be overseers, so they used English that seems confusing. Once you realize the Greek doesn’t have male prono

Titus 1:5-9 1 Tim 3:1-13 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-05

@Richard89885354 @MarkGrote 1 Tim 3:11 “Women likewise…” then gives the same “restriction” of “must be one wife husband” and then in Rom 16 talks about female leaders and Phoebe who is clearly a deacon. Paul doesn’t use gendered pronouns, but things...

@Richard89885354 @MarkGrote 1 Tim 3:11 “Women likewise…” then gives the same “restriction” of “must be one wife husband” and then in Rom 16 talks about female leaders and Phoebe who is clearly a deaco

1 Tim 3:1 1 Tim 3:11 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-23

@snarkytwinkie @TheMuppetPastor I look at 1 Tim 3:1-13 here. https://t.co/ePcJnO

@snarkytwinkie @TheMuppetPastor I look at 1 Tim 3:1-13 here. https://t.co/ePcJnOBWU0

1 Tim 3:1-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-17

@TheMuppetPastor @MaSoleil @DoctrineofTulip @autocorrect2_0 Ok, sounds like you don’t have a solid opinion on deacons yet. EVEN THOUGH 1 Tim 3:12 says “Deacons must be husbands of one wife”? So you can be convinced because some are called deacons i...

@TheMuppetPastor @MaSoleil @DoctrineofTulip @autocorrect2_0 Ok, sounds like you don’t have a solid opinion on deacons yet. EVEN THOUGH 1 Tim 3:12 says “Deacons must be husbands of one wife”? So you

1 Tim 3:12 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-16

Here's a summary post pinned to my profile of responses to various passages: 1 C

Here's a summary post pinned to my profile of responses to various passages: 1 Cor 14:34-45, 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Tim 3:1-13, Titus 1:5-9, 1 Cor 11:3, Eph 5:22-23, 1 Pet 3:1-6. https://t.co/4tYGBalq90

1 Cor 11:3 1 Cor 14:34-45 1 Pet 3:1-6 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-07

@Generally_aware @RealStevenDC @ryancduff If you admit deacons, and deacons are

@Generally_aware @RealStevenDC @ryancduff If you admit deacons, and deacons are also described as “one wife husbands” (1 Tim 3:12), then why can’t they be elders?

1 Tim 3:12 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-05

@MikeWingerii Finally, most complementarians see 1 Tim 3:1-13 and Tit 1:5-9 as clearly requiring male leadership. But if this is the case: - Why does Paul use τὶς in v1 which means “someone” or “anyone”? Why didn’t he specify a male, or ἀνήρ? - I...

@MikeWingerii Finally, most complementarians see 1 Tim 3:1-13 and Tit 1:5-9 as clearly requiring male leadership. But if this is the case: - Why does Paul use τὶς in v1 which means “someone” or “any

Tit 1:5-9 1 Tim 3:1-13 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-06

@dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, Paul outlays **ch

@dougponder Short answer is no women elders? On the contrary, Paul outlays **character** qualifications for leadership (1 Tim 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-9) ⎯ Paul doesn't forbid the single, the childless or w

1 Tim 3:1-13 Titus 1:5-9 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

RT @ryanschatz: @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Oh, and just to make your head spin..

RT @ryanschatz: @ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Oh, and just to make your head spin... overseer in 1 Tim 3:1 is feminine.... https://t.co/AxjNaK…

1 Tim 3:1 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Oh, and just to make your head spin... overseer in 1

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam Oh, and just to make your head spin... overseer in 1 Tim 3:1 is feminine.... https://t.co/AxjNaK5DMm

1 Tim 3:1 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@ymmotrojam 1 Cor 14:34⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 2:11⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 3:15⎯Paul is referring to the qualifications for elders (shouldn't be drunkards, greedy for financial gain, must hold to the faith with a clear conscience, etc)⎯it also doesn't ...

@ymmotrojam 1 Cor 14:34⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 2:11⎯doesn't say sin 1 Tim 3:15⎯Paul is referring to the qualifications for elders (shouldn't be drunkards, greedy for financial gain, must hold to the fa

1 Cor 14:34 1 Tim 2:11 1 Tim 3:15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-03

@David_Fairchild @JollyStine @CovenantReform2 @ScottRagan @haymes_joshua Here’s

@David_Fairchild @JollyStine @CovenantReform2 @ScottRagan @haymes_joshua Here’s more on 1 Tim 3:1-13. https://t.co/EBzpnqJmk0

1 Tim 3:1-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-01

@DavePosMil @haymes_joshua The passages I was referring to where pronouns are in

@DavePosMil @haymes_joshua The passages I was referring to where pronouns are inserted in the English is 1 Tim 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9. https://t.co/EBzpnqJmk0

Titus 1:5-9 1 Tim 3:1-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-26

@RobertMacD0nald @smashbaals Pastors and elders/bishop/overseer are synonymous. Deacons are leaders who are not required to teach. - Name one person in the NT church in scripture who was referred to as a shepherd. - Name one person in the NT church...

@RobertMacD0nald @smashbaals Pastors and elders/bishop/overseer are synonymous. Deacons are leaders who are not required to teach. - Name one person in the NT church in scripture who was referred to

1 Tim 3:1-2 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-12

@JoshuaSethSchu1 @ortrails @goteamcarr The main concern I have is when they come to this conclusion by ignoring or rejecting passages like 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Cor 14:34-36, 1 Tim 3:1-13, and 1 Cor 11:1-16. I think other scriptures are positive towards ...

@JoshuaSethSchu1 @ortrails @goteamcarr The main concern I have is when they come to this conclusion by ignoring or rejecting passages like 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Cor 14:34-36, 1 Tim 3:1-13, and 1 Cor 11:1-1

1 Cor 11:1-16 1 Cor 14:34-36 1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-11

@moniemon84 @Peacemaker811 @anahnemoo 1 Tim 3:1-13 has often been difficult to interpret because male pronouns are inserted in the English translations, so most don't realize the non-specific nature of the language. The only phrase that seems to app...

@moniemon84 @Peacemaker811 @anahnemoo 1 Tim 3:1-13 has often been difficult to interpret because male pronouns are inserted in the English translations, so most don't realize the non-specific nature o

1 Tim 3:1-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-11

@godlywomanhood 1 Tim 3:1-13 has often been difficult to interpret because male pronouns are inserted in the English translations, so most don't realize the non-specific nature of the language. The only phrase that seems to apply to males only is μι...

@godlywomanhood 1 Tim 3:1-13 has often been difficult to interpret because male pronouns are inserted in the English translations, so most don't realize the non-specific nature of the language. The o

1 Tim 3:1-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-10

@JayMuratore Thanks for sharing your article. I go through Ephesians 5, 1 Tim 2:11-15 (and Gen 1-3), and 1 Tim 3:1-13 in my thread below. If you have something specific you want to respond to, please reply where I address it as it doesn't make sens...

@JayMuratore Thanks for sharing your article. I go through Ephesians 5, 1 Tim 2:11-15 (and Gen 1-3), and 1 Tim 3:1-13 in my thread below. If you have something specific you want to respond to, pleas

1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Tim 3:1-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-11

1 Tim 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-9 ⎯ Character qualifications for leadership; Paul doesn'

1 Tim 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-9 ⎯ Character qualifications for leadership; Paul doesn't forbid the single, the childless or women https://t.co/SMUaKrLevt

1 Tim 3:1-13 Titus 1:5-9 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@GlennDavies @danitreweek In a very brief response to your comment that "elders were qualified men," I believe you are importing male only requirements into these texts. ✏️There is nowhere in 1 Tim 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 that says that an elder must ...

@GlennDavies @danitreweek In a very brief response to your comment that "elders were qualified men," I believe you are importing male only requirements into these texts. ✏️There is nowhere in 1 Tim 3:

Titus 1:5-9 1 Tim 3:1-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-24

@PastorSJCamp @Ken_FiveSolas @alexojeda78 @JustinPetersMin You don’t need a pass

@PastorSJCamp @Ken_FiveSolas @alexojeda78 @JustinPetersMin You don’t need a passage that says “a woman must be a one man woman” as 1 Tim 3:11 says “Women likewise…” and doesn’t say “an elder must not

1 Tim 3:11 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-21

@TomBuck Keep reading… 1 Tim 3:11 “Women likewise…”. Also, there’s no statement

@TomBuck Keep reading… 1 Tim 3:11 “Women likewise…”. Also, there’s no statement “an elder must not be a woman” and no male pronouns are used.

1 Tim 3:11 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-21

@TomBuck @DaveSmith2019 That’s not a very open-minded response. I have a comple

@TomBuck @DaveSmith2019 That’s not a very open-minded response. I have a completely legitimate Biblical exegetical interpretation of 1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Tim 3:1-13, Titus 1:5-9 that does

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Tim 3:1-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-15

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer 1 Tim 3:1—If τις (anyone/someone) aspires to the office of ἐπισκοπῆς (overseer, feminine). Then we get a list of requirements followed by "women likewise". μιᾶς γυναικὸς ἄνδρα means monogamous. Nowhere is...

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer 1 Tim 3:1—If τις (anyone/someone) aspires to the office of ἐπισκοπῆς (overseer, feminine). Then we get a list of requirements followed by "women likewise".

1 Tim 3:1 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-10

@RickWarren If you want to convince complementarians, you have to exegete 1 Cor

@RickWarren If you want to convince complementarians, you have to exegete 1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 Cor 11:1-16, 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Tim 3:1-13, Titus 1:5-16, Genesis 2-3 and it has to be consistent with not inv

1 Cor 11:1-16 1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-10

@HwsEleutheroi Why is the first usage of “overseer” in 1 Tim 3:1 feminine while in 1 Tim 3:2 it is masculine? “One man woman” (1Ti3:2) or “one woman man” (1Ti5:9) has the emphasis on “one” and can simply mean monogamous. Notice “manage their househ...

@HwsEleutheroi Why is the first usage of “overseer” in 1 Tim 3:1 feminine while in 1 Tim 3:2 it is masculine? “One man woman” (1Ti3:2) or “one woman man” (1Ti5:9) has the emphasis on “one” and can si

1 Tim 3:1 1 Tim 3:2 1Ti3:2 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-10

@HwsEleutheroi Not defending Warren’s exegesis, but how is it that authentein is not used to state how men can positively have authority? Why would Paul choose this unique word? And did you not see “Women LIKEWISE…” in 1 Tim 3:11? This word means “...

@HwsEleutheroi Not defending Warren’s exegesis, but how is it that authentein is not used to state how men can positively have authority? Why would Paul choose this unique word? And did you not see “

1 Tim 3:11 debate
Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 2:11-15

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Timothy 2:11-15 specific woman,deception,authenteo,grammar,perfect tense,future tense,anaphoric,egalitarian,ephesus,teknogonia,singular plural,historical perfect,verbal aspect,paul as pattern
Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 1:13-16

Sections: cross_references, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Timothy 1:13-16 mercy,ignorance,pattern,hybristEs,paul,blasphemer,persecutor,violent aggressor,deception,egalitarian,restoration
Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 3:14-15

Sections: exegesis

1 Timothy 3:14-15 letter purpose conduct church
Theology verse entry

Revelation 2:14

Sections: exegesis, greek_analysis

Revelation 2:14 Balaam false teaching didasko
Theology verse entry

Revelation 2:20

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis

Revelation 2:20 Jezebel false prophetess didasko
Theology verse entry

Psalm 109:8

Sections: cross_references, exegesis, greek_analysis

Psalm 109:8 apostolate,office,episkope,Matthias,Judas,replacement
Theology verse entry

Ephesians 4:11-13

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Ephesians 4:11-13 spiritual gifts,Christ distributes,pastors,teachers,apostles,prophets,evangelists,equipping,unity,egalitarian
Theology verse entry

Galatians 3:26-29

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Galatians 3:26-29 inheritance,sonship,equality,salvation,sanctification,Judaizers,bondage,egalitarian,Galatians 3:28
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