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Scripture Commentary article 2012-11-30

Did God hang babies out to dry with the rest of sinning humanity?

My last post on Judas brought up a discussion of Jesus’ words about Judas and what it would have been like for him had he not been born.

James 1:15 Jeremiah 19:4–5 Jeremiah 7:31 Soteriology Calvinism
Theology verse entry

2 Samuel 14:1-24

Sections: exegesis

2 Samuel 14:1-24 wise woman of tekoa,joab,women leadership,wisdom,absalom
Theology verse entry

2 Samuel 20:14-23

Sections: exegesis

2 Samuel 20:14-23 wise woman of abel,women leadership,wisdom,sheba revolt
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Mike's rebuttal: 'bone of my bones' denotes familial connection but says nothing about authority being present or absent, shown by 2 Samuel 5:1 and Judges 9:2.

Evaluating Payne's 'bone of my bones' argument

Philip Payne bone of my bones 2 Sam 5:1
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-30

Prophecy is passive in nature — the prophet is not supposed to speak beyond what God gave them

Mike cites Craig Keener in support of this point about the passive nature of prophecy.

2 Samuel 7 David Craig Keener Nathan
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

The 'wise woman of Tekoa' (2 Samuel 14) was not an 'advisor to head of state' — she merely memorized and delivered Joab's words to David.

Rebutting Belleville's claim about the woman of Tekoa

2 Samuel 14:3 Linda Belleville Two Views on Women in Ministry David
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

The wise woman of Abel Beth Maacah (2 Samuel 20:16-22) negotiated peace during a siege, representing the whole city — she exercised real political power in crisis.

Examining a more substantive example of a wise woman

2 Samuel 20:16-22 Joab 2 Samuel 20:16-22 wise woman of Abel Beth Maacah
Mike Winger idea 2018-10-17

Infants and young children who die are saved — Mike holds this as a personal conviction based on David's hope of reunion with his deceased infant son.

Q&A section: a viewer asks whether their 8-month-old sister who died will be in heaven.

2 Samuel heaven Q&A infant salvation
Mike Winger idea 2019-05-16

Proverbs 30:1-4 — God and his Son in the Hebrew Bible

McLatchie highlights Proverbs 30:1-4 as an often-overlooked text implying the divine sonship within the Hebrew Scriptures.

Hosea 11:1 Proverbs 30:1-4 Hosea 11:1 divine sonship Jonathan McLatchie
Mike Winger idea 2021-03-26

2 Samuel 12:8 does not endorse polygamy; the phrase "I would have given you more" is a figure of speech for God's provision, not a promise of additional wives; God explicitly forbids polygamy for kings in Deuteronomy 17:17.

Joshua Bambrick asks whether 2 Samuel 12:8 refutes the claim that God does not affirm polygamy.

Deuteronomy 17:17 2 Samuel 12:8 David Nathan marriage
Mike Winger idea 2021-03-26

Self-hatred often functions as a mismanagement of guilt — projecting sin onto an "other self" to adopt victim mentality instead of genuine repentance.

Gabriel Martinez says he hates himself sometimes and asks how to love himself biblically.

Genesis 4 2 Samuel 13 (Amnon and Tamar) repentance pastoral counseling guilt
Mike Winger idea 2021-04-23

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (man seizes virgin) is best read as maximizing the woman's rights and removing the man's after a sexual violation; it reflects the law making the best of a sinful situation.

Q12 from Tyler: trouble understanding the morality of Deuteronomy 22:28-29; some say it's consensual, but 2 Samuel 13 (Amnon and Tamar) seems to contradict that.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 2 Samuel 13 (Amnon and Tamar) Deuteronomy 22:28-29 2 Samuel 13 (Amnon and Tamar) sexual ethics (OT law)
Mike Winger idea 2021-04-30

Dancing is not inherently sinful; Christians should apply liberty-with-responsibility rather than blanket prohibition.

Question 4 from Kate for Christ about the biblical basis for viewing dancing as sinful.

2 Samuel 6 David Christian liberty dancing
Mike Winger idea 2020-02-19

Q&A: Babies killed through abortion go to heaven — supported by David's words in 2 Samuel 12:23 about his dead child. This doesn't justify killing them, just as Christians going to heaven doesn't justify murdering Christians.

Q&A — souls of aborted babies

2 Samuel 12:23 abortion 2 Samuel 12:23
Mike Winger idea 2020-02-26

Q&A: Babies who die (including through abortion) go to be with God, supported by 2 Samuel 12:23 where David says "I shall go to him" about his dead child. This doesn't justify killing them — you could make the same argument for killing Christians.

Q&A — souls of aborted babies

2 Samuel 12:23 abortion 2 Samuel 12:23
Mike Winger idea 2021-08-27

About the Woman of Tekoa & Banishing: How can someone be banished, and yet not cast out from God? I’m referring to what the woman of Tekoa said in 2 Samuel 14: 14. Is it only within that context, or can it be applied transcendently?

Q&A question: About the Woman of Tekoa & Banishing

Samuel
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-13

Resolving a “Contradiction”: Does Ezekiel 18: 20 contradict the stoning of Achan and his family in Joshua 7: 24-26 (the idea of original sin passed down through Adam) and 2 Samuel 12: 13-15?

Q&A question: Resolving a “Contradiction”

Joshua 7 Ezekiel Samuel Achan Joshua 7
Mike Winger idea 2022-08-19

Why was Tamar a “Disgraced Woman”?: Why was Tamar in 2 Samuel considered “a disgraced woman” after being raped by her half-brother, Amnon?

Q&A question: Why was Tamar a “Disgraced Woman”?

Samuel Amnon Tamar
Mike Winger idea 2023-06-09

Understanding Parallel Prophecies: Is there a process you go through to understand parallel prophecies? For example, 2 Samuel 7: 14 seems to be about Jesus, but clearly not completely because he doesn’t commit iniquity.

Q&A question: Understanding Parallel Prophecies

2 Samuel 7 2 Samuel 7 Samuel Jesus
Mike Winger idea 2023-09-15

Did God Endorse Polygamy in the OT?: In 2 Samuel 12:8, God says that He gave David his wives (multiple), and if he had asked for more, God would’ve given him more. This sounds to be directly saying that God would be endorsing polygamy. How should we as Christians feel about one man having multiple wives according to the Bible, specifically this passage?

Q&A question: Did God Endorse Polygamy in the OT?

2 Samuel 12:8 David Samuel 2 Samuel 12:8
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-15

Human Sacrifice in the OT?: I'm curious about how to handle 2 Samuel 21. This sounds very close to a form of human sacrifice to honor God.

Q&A question: Human Sacrifice in the OT?

Samuel
Mike Winger idea 2024-04-05

Why was David’s Family Punished?: In 2 Samuel 12: 10, why was the sword to never depart from David’s house if our sins aren’t supposed to carry over? Why was his family punished for his sin, and not just his son with Bathsheba but Ammon, etc.?

Q&A question: Why was David’s Family Punished?

David Samuel Bathsheba
Mike Winger idea 2024-06-07

Navigating Difficult Pregnancies: What are your thoughts on terminating a pregnancy due to a “lethal” condition like anencephaly? This seems like euthanasia. Applicable passages might be Genesis 9:4-6 and 2 Samuel 1:1-16.

Q&A question: Navigating Difficult Pregnancies

Genesis Genesis 9 Samuel Genesis Genesis 9
Mike Winger idea 2025-06-06

Resolving 2 Challenging Passages: 1 Chronicles 20:5 and 2 Samuel 21: 19 seem to disagree with each other. How should we think biblically about these two passages?

Q&A question: Resolving 2 Challenging Passages

1 Chronicles 20 Samuel 1 Chronicles 20