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Mike Winger idea 2018-03-28

Named skeptics to be examined: Matt Dillahunty, David Hume, Sam Harris, Dan Barker, Richard Carrier, Bart Ehrman

Roster of specific atheist/skeptic thinkers Mike will analyze

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Mike Winger idea 2018-03-28

Missing body theory: Jesus's body was never in the claimed tomb or went missing, explaining the empty tomb

Sixth alternate theory introduced

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Mike Winger idea 2018-03-28

Bart Ehrman's position: even if miracles happened, historians should not believe them

Examination of Bart Ehrman's approach to the resurrection

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Mike Winger idea 2018-03-28

In his debate with William Lane Craig, Ehrman granted all five ALIVE facts but denied any historian can postulate miracles

Mike describes the Craig-Ehrman debate on the resurrection

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Mike Winger idea 2018-03-28

After the Craig debate, Ehrman changed position and now denies the burial — Mike argues this is ad hoc motivated reasoning

Mike's analysis of Ehrman's intellectual development post-debate

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Mike Winger idea 2018-04-11

Reason 4 refuted: The psychological power of contradiction lists outweighs their actual evidential force; contradictions would not disprove inspiration anyway

The skeptic links to the Skeptic's Annotated Bible list of hundreds of alleged biblical contradictions.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-28

Skeptics like Bart Ehrman, Richard Carrier, and Robert Price use Apollonius of Tyana as their best example of a dying-and-rising god figure who allegedly parallels Jesus, in order to argue either that Jesus is mythical or that the gospel narrative is a generic literary genre rather than historical truth.

mythicism apologetics Apollonius of Tyana
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-28

Ehrman opens his classes by describing Apollonius in language deliberately crafted to sound like Jesus — 'divine birth', 'son of God', 'miracles', 'aroused opposition', 'ascended to heaven' — then reveals he was describing Apollonius, creating a psychological shock designed to undermine students' faith before they can evaluate the claim.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-28

The Life of Apollonius explicitly names his father on page 11 of the text. There is no virgin birth. His mother has a dream telling her to go to a meadow, swans startle her into premature labor, and a lightning bolt curves upward at his birth — none of these constitute a virgin birth parallel. Even Bart Ehrman publicly agrees there are no parallels to the virgin birth of Jesus.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Winger argues Ehrman's book creates a false impression of radical biblical change by using technically true statements in a misleading way. When pressed in an interview, Ehrman himself admitted the Gospels 'pretty much say exactly what they say in your Bible now,' undermining the impression his book creates.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Even Bart Ehrman — one of the most prominent critical scholars — acknowledges that the New Testament documents are the earliest and best sources for historical knowledge about Jesus, undercutting the dismissal of the Gospels as unreliable.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-12-01

Even Bart Ehrman — a non-Christian scholar whose goal is to undermine Christianity — dates John to 90–95 AD, not 170 AD

Mike offers a source skeptics can't dismiss as biased

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Mike Winger idea 2019-02-20

Bart Ehrman's telephone-game argument against Gospel reliability

Mike quotes and plays audio of Bart Ehrman presenting the community tradition / oral telephone-game view of Gospel transmission.

Bart Ehrman community tradition view oral transmission
Mike Winger idea 2019-02-20

The Jesus Seminar and the consequence of rejecting eyewitness origins

Mike explains what is at stake if the Gospels are not rooted in eyewitness accounts.

Bart Ehrman Jesus Seminar Son of Man
Mike Winger idea 2019-02-20

Main conclusion from Papias: eyewitness guarantors refute the telephone-game model

Core argument against Ehrman's telephone-game analogy using Papias as evidence.

Bart Ehrman community tradition view telephone game analogy
Mike Winger idea 2019-02-20

Ehrman's telephone-game argument as a debate tactic used selectively against less-informed audiences

Mike critiques Ehrman's rhetorical strategy.

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Mike Winger idea 2019-02-20

Bart Ehrman's argument that harmonizing the Gospels means writing a new Gospel — Mike's refutation

Q&A addressing Ehrman's specific anti-harmonization argument.

Bart Ehrman Gospel reliability harmonization
Mike Winger idea 2019-02-20

Q&A: Bart Ehrman's claim that harmonizing Gospels means writing a new Gospel — video reference

Second pass at the harmonization question with a specific resource recommendation.

Bart Ehrman Gospel reliability harmonization
Mike Winger idea 2019-02-27

Women as witnesses - criterion of embarrassment in male-centered culture

Why early Christians would not invent women as the first witnesses

Bart Ehrman Women witnesses Criterion of embarrassment
Mike Winger idea 2019-04-03

2 Peter 1:12-14 — Peter's awareness of his impending death and intent to leave a written legacy; response to Bart Ehrman's pseudonymity argument

Third biblical source for Peter's martyrdom awareness, with engagement with the Ehrman pseudonymity objection

2 Peter 1:12-14 Bart Ehrman apostolic martyrdom Peter the Apostle
Mike Winger idea 2019-05-01

Twitter response 3: Want documented accounts with originals protected — which is what we have

Third respondent's example of extraordinary evidence.

Bart Ehrman Resurrection of Jesus Biblical manuscripts
Mike Winger idea 2019-05-01

Bart Ehrman acknowledges we probably have what the originals said, despite popularizing text-critical skepticism

Mike's nuanced engagement with a prominent skeptical scholar on textual transmission.

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Mike Winger idea 2019-05-30

James White tweet: respectful but firm disagreement; White acknowledged for textual criticism work and Ehrman debate

Winger shows the James White tweet that prompted deeper preparation for this stream.

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Mike Winger idea 2019-06-19

Bart Ehrman's statement: mythicist view has no foothold among modern critical scholars

Quoting agnostic/atheist scholar to demonstrate non-Christian scholarly consensus

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Mike Winger idea 2019-06-19

Objection that scholars affirm historicity only because they signed faith statements is refuted by citing atheist/agnostic scholars who agree

Responding to the claim that Christian bias explains scholarly consensus on historicity

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Mike Winger idea 2019-06-19

Bart Ehrman is in a small minority who deny Jesus was known as a miracle worker during his lifetime; most scholars disagree

Noting limits and minority positions within the broader consensus

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Mike Winger idea 2019-06-19

Advice to those influenced by Richard Carrier: read other skeptical scholars — Ehrman, Lüdemann, Casey — who have proper training in historical Jesus scholarship

Practical guidance for those following Carrier's mythicist arguments

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Mike Winger idea 2021-01-01

Q16: Bart Ehrman's claim that John 3 "born again" wordplay couldn't have occurred in Aramaic — Jesus spoke Greek

Response to viewer citing Bart Ehrman's argument about John 3 and language

John 3:3-8 Peter Williams Bart Ehrman Nicodemus
Mike Winger idea 2021-01-01

Nicodemus likely spoke Greek to Jesus for secrecy — eliminating the Ehrman problem

Concluding Q16 on John 3 and Greek

John 3:1-2 Bart Ehrman Nicodemus anothen
Mike Winger idea 2020-05-21

Gospel contradictions: Williams argues the burden of proof is on the person claiming two accounts CAN'T fit together, not on the believer to provide the exact harmonization. The Judas death example (Matthew: hanged; Acts: fell and burst open) — multiple scenarios fit both descriptions. Ancient reporting conventions (no quotation marks, different summarization styles, legal naming conventions) explain most alleged contradictions.

Gospel contradictions — burden of proof and Judas

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Mike Winger idea 2020-08-12

Four things to know before historical investigation of Jesus: (1) Historical investigation is limited — historians intentionally bracket inspiration of Scripture. (2) Failure to confirm ≠ denial it happened. (3) History is probabilistic — the best verdict is "extremely likely," never 100%%. (4) Scholars are people with biases — Bart Ehrman rejects miracles by methodology, not evidence ("as a historian you're not allowed to posit miracles").

Framework for historical investigation of Jesus

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Mike Winger idea 2020-10-22

The literary devices view has serious apologetic consequences: it eliminates resurrection appearances, undermines doubting Thomas, weakens the case for Jesus's deity from John's "I AM" sayings, and gives ammunition to cults and skeptics.

Apologetic implications of accepting literary devices in the Gospels

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Mike Winger idea 2022-09-02

About Bart Ehrman’s Teachings & Tactics: You have talked about Dr. Bart Ehrman (ex: your “Atheist Scholar Misleads Millions Of People” video). Does he also use these "techniques" on his professional peers?

Q&A question: About Bart Ehrman’s Teachings & Tactics

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Mike Winger idea 2021-08-02

The claim that Jesus was never buried in a known tomb (made by scholars like Bart Ehrman) is a minority position that, if true, would undercut the empty tomb argument for the resurrection. Winger's goal is to show the burial is historically well-supported and that Ehrman's case relies on selective use of sources.

Why the burial of Jesus matters for the resurrection argument; Ehrman's challenge introduced

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