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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-11-28

@TheGermanicist 1. “John 5:19 and 20:17 is true.” Yes but neither passage teaches the Father was once a man or that Jesus is a created being. Jn 5:19 shows submission to another’s will, not ontological inferiority. In Jn 20:17, “My Father and your F...

@TheGermanicist 1. “John 5:19 and 20:17 is true.” Yes but neither passage teaches the Father was once a man or that Jesus is a created being. Jn 5:19 shows submission to another’s will, not ontologic

Jn 20:17 and 20:17 Jn 5:19 debate

Theology verse entry

John 5:18-23

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

John 5:18-23 Son equal to Father,John 5,EFS,Trinity,divine prerogatives,honor Son as Father,isos,subordinationism

Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

John 5:19 refutes Johnson's teaching that God responds to human declarations — Jesus only did what He saw the Father doing, not the reverse

Mike cites a specific text to challenge one of Johnson's specific claims about how God responds to human proclamation

John 5:19 prayer Bill Johnson healing theology

Mike Winger idea 2019-05-30

1 John 5:19 — 'the whole world lies under the power of the evil one' clinches the meaning of 'whole world' in 1 John 2:2

Winger uses 1 John 5:19 to confirm 'the whole world' in 1 John 2:2 refers to ungodly humanity.

1 John 2:2 1 John 5:19 extent of atonement 1 John 2:2 propitiation

Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

1 John 4:3-5 and 5:19 — "the whole world lies under the power of the evil one" confirms kosmos is non-elect

Clinching evidence for the meaning of kosmos in 1 John from chapter 5.

1 John 4:3-5 1 John 5:19 limited atonement kosmos 1 John 4:3-5

Mike Winger idea 2020-09-28

Faith for miracles is different from saving faith — it's initiated by God (a spiritual gift), not fabricated by the believer. Jesus had a responsive ministry to the Father, not initiatory. You respond to what the Spirit reveals.

Theological framework: miracle-faith as God-initiated response, not self-generated belief