The Debates Over 1 Timothy 2

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the debates over 1 Timothy 2:11-15

The Giving Part 2: Judas the Betrayer, a Balanced View of the Sovereignty of God

[Music] the giving is a balanced view of the sovereignty of God God's sovereignty is vitally important for us to know God yet it's God's sovereignty taught as a system of theological thought which can lead to a person reading into the biblical text an outside concept that is foreign to the writers i...

The Giving A balanced view of the Sovereignty of God

We are preparing to film the last portion of The Giving DVD project. The full title is The Giving A Balanced view of The Sovereignty of God . The subject of the DVD is John 6 with the hard sayings of Jesus that seem to teach that Jesus did not die for everyone.

The context surrounding John 6

In explaining the meaning of John 6, we need to pay close attention to the context surrounding John 6 as well as the relevant context from the entire book of John. Here are some verses that are HIGHLY relevant and some questions for you to ponder.

Did Judas receive communion?

My post on Judas Was Judas Predestined to be Lost? has been challenged. This post is an answer to that challenge.

For this reason – John 6:64-65

For this reason – John 6:64-65. I am jumping ahead in my verse by verse exegesis to John 6:64-65 because these are the verses that give the answer to Jesus’ words in John 6:37, 44-45. I will start with verse 65 first.

Why are people not coming to Jesus?

Dr. James White has stated on his Dividing Line program that he wants to see how I line up the John 6 passage to show why people are not coming to Jesus. This post will summarize my view from my previous verse by verse exposition and tie in reasons for unbelief from the book of John.

Was John the Baptist predestined to be saved?

In the teaching of Calvinism, there is an election to salvation for some men while the rest of mankind are created without a hope of eternal life. In this understanding God has pre-determined from eternity past that all but the elect would remain in their sin and be lost forever.

@DLepanto9801 @PatrickSemani @PrayTheRosary12 Where does scripture say that bapt

@DLepanto9801 @PatrickSemani @PrayTheRosary12 Where does scripture say that baptism replaces circumcision? They also baptized in the OT—what do you think John the Baptist was doing?

@BrendenHen8500 @sanderson1611 Many feel ashamed they are going bald and want to

@BrendenHen8500 @sanderson1611 Many feel ashamed they are going bald and want to get hair transplants. How is it a shame for a man to have long hair? You still have to explain how nature teaches this

@sanderson1611 What from nature teaches you long hair on a man is shameful? John the Baptist was a Nazarite like Samson and never cut his hair… Nature teaches you that arm hair stops growing at a specific length and that head hair keeps growing the ...

@sanderson1611 What from nature teaches you long hair on a man is shameful? John the Baptist was a Nazarite like Samson and never cut his hair… Nature teaches you that arm hair stops growing at a spe

Regeneration doesn’t supersede the call to remain. John the Baptist preached “f

Regeneration doesn’t supersede the call to remain. John the Baptist preached “fruit in keeping with repentance” (Mt 3:8). Jesus said “abide in Me” or be cut off (Jn 15:6). Paul warned: “you stand b

@philip_reformed @Bildor_MoM @smashbaals How does “nature” teach you that long h

@philip_reformed @Bildor_MoM @smashbaals How does “nature” teach you that long hair on a man is disgraceful? What about John the Baptist?

@R5Y79 @BretArrigo @mtnhousewife @Matthew56193629 I agree with you. I think the

@R5Y79 @BretArrigo @mtnhousewife @Matthew56193629 I agree with you. I think the only "male" authority that exists has been made up by people. Even John the Baptist clearly said “...A person can recei

@befaithful10 Oh wow! John the Baptist was under a Nazarite vow (Num 6:1-6 which

@befaithful10 Oh wow! John the Baptist was under a Nazarite vow (Num 6:1-6 which applies to both men and woman) his entire life requiring him to not cut his hair... was he vile? Even Paul took a Naza

@DirtBoyFarms @ruthmperry @iheartJ37 @harmonizedgrace Not arguing that authority

@DirtBoyFarms @ruthmperry @iheartJ37 @harmonizedgrace Not arguing that authority is given by God. Where did God give you authority over your wife? John the Baptist said that authority has to be given

@ronhenzel @iheartJ37 Authority has to be given by God (see quote from John the

@ronhenzel @iheartJ37 Authority has to be given by God (see quote from John the Baptist). God gave both Adam and Eve authority to rule by command (see imperatives in Ge 1:28). Where then did God give

@lawson_speaks According to John the Baptist, authority must be given by God. W

@lawson_speaks According to John the Baptist, authority must be given by God. Where does God give Adam authority over Eve? https://t.co/KUObR40juq

There’s more going on in that picture besides the long hair. How about John the Baptist who was a Nazarite from birth and therefore never cut his hair? 🤔 "Nature itself teaches you *neither* that it is disgraceful for a man to have long hair *nor* t...

There’s more going on in that picture besides the long hair. How about John the Baptist who was a Nazarite from birth and therefore never cut his hair? 🤔 "Nature itself teaches you *neither* that it

@riemersonck @VCITW There was no such hierarchy at creation. Creating the man first does not confer authority over. Authority must be given as John the Baptist declares. When was Adam given authority over Eve? "John answered, 'A person cannot receiv...

@riemersonck @VCITW There was no such hierarchy at creation. Creating the man first does not confer authority over. Authority must be given as John the Baptist declares. When was Adam given authority

@SpecterAndBride @ymmotrojam @squidgy201 You are suggesting it is effeminate for

@SpecterAndBride @ymmotrojam @squidgy201 You are suggesting it is effeminate for a man to have long hair and that this is not permissible (according to Paul). Would Paul rebuke John the Baptist? If

@SpecterAndBride Was John the Baptist effeminate for not ever cutting his hair?

@SpecterAndBride Was John the Baptist effeminate for not ever cutting his hair? Samson? Even Paul took a Nazarite vow which could have lasted years. Num 6:1-21

@SpecterAndBride @ymmotrojam @squidgy201 Yeah, after the apostles at some point

@SpecterAndBride @ymmotrojam @squidgy201 Yeah, after the apostles at some point the correct understanding of this passage seems to have been lost on the majority. Question: was John the Baptist viola

@914Ann Yeah, I’m sorry for the confusion. I meant only to focus on water baptis

@914Ann Yeah, I’m sorry for the confusion. I meant only to focus on water baptism. My question on the apostles followed the one on John the Baptist and when he was baptized.

@BaconMore1 @InnovationHQ2 @elijahtmadison @SpecterAndBride @tigereyes1972 That is mixing up creator with father. Why is the man never said to be the glory of his earthly father? Hair is not someone's glory. John the Baptist never cut his hair as he...

@BaconMore1 @InnovationHQ2 @elijahtmadison @SpecterAndBride @tigereyes1972 That is mixing up creator with father. Why is the man never said to be the glory of his earthly father? Hair is not someone'

@RachelleMerle Please explain how NATURE teaches you there is a difference between males and females when it comes to head hair. Then explain how it is disgraceful for John the Baptist to have long hair (a Nazarite). Even Paul himself took a Nazarit...

@RachelleMerle Please explain how NATURE teaches you there is a difference between males and females when it comes to head hair. Then explain how it is disgraceful for John the Baptist to have long h

@PastorRobMonroe @KaeleyT @megbasham If you believe long hair is a shame, you ha

@PastorRobMonroe @KaeleyT @megbasham If you believe long hair is a shame, you have to—must—explain how John the Baptist wasn’t a shame all his life. God set him apart specifically that way.

@PastorRobMonroe @KaeleyT @megbasham Is John the Baptist shamed because he was a nazarite from birth and therefore couldn’t cut his hair like Samson? Even Paul took a Nazarite vow and in numbers both men and women could take the vow. The vow involves...

@PastorRobMonroe @KaeleyT @megbasham Is John the Baptist shamed because he was a nazarite from birth and therefore couldn’t cut his hair like Samson? Even Paul took a Nazarite vow and in numbers both

@PastorRobMonroe @KaeleyT @megbasham Is it so far fetched that a conservative could believe that a godly woman could teach true doctrine or pastor a church based on a careful reading of scripture? Question: 1Co 11:14-15—does “nature” teach you that ...

@PastorRobMonroe @KaeleyT @megbasham Is it so far fetched that a conservative could believe that a godly woman could teach true doctrine or pastor a church based on a careful reading of scripture? Qu

@TarienCole @MikeWingerii @JollyStine “I think men should have short hair still”

@TarienCole @MikeWingerii @JollyStine “I think men should have short hair still” How long was Jesus’ hair? How about John the Baptist who never cut his hair? Samson? Absalom? Anyone taking a Nazarite

@StothersRyan I appreciate your demeanour on this topic. Here’s another statement from Jesus similar to the one from John the Baptist: “Jesus answered, ‘You would have no authority over Me, unless it had been given you from above; for this reason h...

@StothersRyan I appreciate your demeanour on this topic. Here’s another statement from Jesus similar to the one from John the Baptist: “Jesus answered, ‘You would have no authority over Me, unless i

@Jgallagher1958 @ronhenzel Yes, Paul was regenerated based on his faith. Everyon

@Jgallagher1958 @ronhenzel Yes, Paul was regenerated based on his faith. Everyone without exception is. John the Baptist had the Holy Spirit from before birth, but his salvation too depended on his

@MikeWingerii MikeW (Calvary Chapel)⎯where in the Bible do we find that God gives Adam authority over Eve? According to John the Baptist, "A person can receive only what is given them from heaven." (John 3:27) Where did God give Adam authority over...

@MikeWingerii MikeW (Calvary Chapel)⎯where in the Bible do we find that God gives Adam authority over Eve? According to John the Baptist, "A person can receive only what is given them from heaven." (

@masonmennenga Right, but I'm referring to Jesus in His ministry as recorded in the gospel accounts. One curious prisoner was John the Baptist who seemed to doubt that Jesus was the Messiah as John was rotting in prison while Jesus was preaching. O...

@masonmennenga Right, but I'm referring to Jesus in His ministry as recorded in the gospel accounts. One curious prisoner was John the Baptist who seemed to doubt that Jesus was the Messiah as John w

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Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Q&A: Partial and multiple fulfillment of prophecy — the Elijah/John the Baptist example

Question from William Toy about whether Mike sees prophecy as having partial and multiple fulfillment.

Partial and total fulfillment: Mike's interpretive framework for prophecy

Mike presents the first of two key background concepts before diving into Mark 13.

John 5: Jesus gives three evidences for his identity — John the Baptist, his miracles, and OT prophecy; Winger cites this as Jesus using evidential method

Winger's argument from John 5

Sye's ultimate evidential claim: everything proves God's existence because you cannot make sense of evidence itself without God — he is 'the ultimate evidentialist'

Sye's reframing of himself as a supreme evidentialist

Historians accept that Jesus was baptized by John as historically reliable, partly due to the criterion of embarrassment — early Christians would have had reason to explain away or omit a detail where Jesus submits to a baptism of repentance, suggesting it is not invented.

Hebrews 10 and Mark 1:44 show that Jesus fulfilled the sacrificial system rather than rejecting or editing it

Winger addresses Zahnd's claim that Jesus 'picked a side' against sacrifice and against the Torah.

John 5:31-38 — Jesus presents three specific evidences for his identity: John the Baptist, miracles, and Scripture

Mike analyzes Jesus's own self-defense in John 5 as a model of evidence-based persuasion.

Matthew 11:13 — "All the prophets and the law prophesied until John" — indicates a new era beginning with Jesus

Additional scriptural support for the transitional nature of the Law

Extra-biblical corroboration: Mark 10 — why Jesus taught about divorce in that context

McLatchie uses Mark 10's divorce passage to show Josephus provides context explaining why the teaching is historically plausible.

Extra-biblical corroboration: Luke 3 — soldiers on active duty near John the Baptist

McLatchie presents a subtle corroboration between Luke 3's soldiers and the specific military situation in the region during John the Baptist's ministry.

John the Baptist's doubt from prison: Jesus responded with fresh evidence rather than rebuke

NT case study: how Jesus handled the doubt of a believer who already had abundant witness

Why was Zechariah punished for his question about John's birth, but Mary was not punished for asking the same type of question?

Question from Terry Defilo about Luke 1:18 (Zechariah) vs. Luke 1:34 (Mary) and the apparent inconsistency.

The Apostles' willingness to suffer demonstrates sincerity even without formal recantation opportunities. They knew what they were signing up for: Jesus told them they'd be brought before governors and kings (Matthew 10). They watched Stephen die, John the Baptist get executed, and Jesus himself crucified. They repeatedly chose to keep preaching despite imprisonment and beatings (Acts).

Sincerity without formal recantation opportunities

About John the Baptist being Jesus’ Cousin: Is it a big deal that John the Baptist was Jesus' cousin? I haven't heard this talked about much; wouldn't that mean that they knew each other when they were kids/before their ministries?

Q&A question: About John the Baptist being Jesus’ Cousin

Why didn’t JTB’s Followers just Follow Jesus?: Why did John the Baptist still have disciples after he clearly pointed out Jesus? Shouldn't they have followed Jesus?

Q&A question: Why didn’t JTB’s Followers just Follow Jesus?