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Scripture Commentary article 2024-06-19

The Debates Over 1 Timothy 2

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the debates over 1 Timothy 2:11-15

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Corinthians 10:11 1 Corinthians 12:1-11 1 Timothy 2 Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2017-06-07

Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free? Part 4: 1 Timothy 2 Deception & the First Created

[Music] 1 Timothy Chapter 2 has been a difficult passage for Bible interpreters because of several hard to understand verses yet while Paul's reasoning is thought to be somewhat obscure this chapter has been seen by some as the clearest passage that says when women are not allowed to teach or to hav...

1 Timothy 1:13 1 Timothy 2:1 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2 Adam & Eve Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2009-09-02

Mike Seaver Cheryl Schatz 10

## Responses to question #5

1 Corinthians 10:15 1 Corinthians 12:28 1 Corinthians 14:36 Women in Leadership Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2009-02-02

Adam And His Ms Organ

The creation account has been used by many as a foundation to produce myths and stories. While this post will concentrate on modern day myths, it is also helpful to understand some of the historical myths about the creation of male and female

1 Corinthians 11:7 1 Corinthians 11:7-8 1 Corinthians 11:8 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2007-09-30

The Rest Of The Story 1 Timothy 211 15 And Matt Slick

> Proverbs 18:17 (ESV) The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him

1 Peter 4:10 1 Peter 4:11 1 Timothy 1:13 1 Timothy 2 Debates
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-07-12

@JEM_Books @sola_chad @ElleRulavage People criticize egalitarians for claiming that it’s about Christian women following the Artemis cult when Paul’s words suggest it’s about genealogies and what sounds like Jewish myths. And the idea of usurping mal...

@JEM_Books @sola_chad @ElleRulavage People criticize egalitarians for claiming that it’s about Christian women following the Artemis cult when Paul’s words suggest it’s about genealogies and what soun

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-06-30

@darylsterk Sorry, I just saw this now. There are certainly false teachings and myths that were coming in. Paul’s explicitly statements suggest Jewish myths: “…myths and endless genealogies, which give rise to useless speculation rather than advanc...

@darylsterk Sorry, I just saw this now. There are certainly false teachings and myths that were coming in. Paul’s explicitly statements suggest Jewish myths: “…myths and endless genealogies, which g

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-02-18

@BronWen727104 Could be. Though in 1Ti 1 where Paul introduces the strange doctrines, he refers to myths and genealogies and fruitless discussions about the law. I’m not sure what that has to do with Artemis. 1Ti 2:9 refers to elaborate hair—likely a...

@BronWen727104 Could be. Though in 1Ti 1 where Paul introduces the strange doctrines, he refers to myths and genealogies and fruitless discussions about the law. I’m not sure what that has to do with

1Ti 2:9 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-22

@carol66944 @Manny_Clay1 You are now repeating yourself and not adding anything new to your argument. How is taking Paul's explanation seriously "devotion" to genealogies and myths promoting speculation? Paul doesn't add new information to Ge 2-3, b...

@carol66944 @Manny_Clay1 You are now repeating yourself and not adding anything new to your argument. How is taking Paul's explanation seriously "devotion" to genealogies and myths promoting speculat

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-09

@MERC_OCULAR @laurie_guilbeau @RoCa74394915 Lilith comes from Jewish myths which are not part of scripture and which we should avoid. "Nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies, which promote speculations rather than the stewardship ...

@MERC_OCULAR @laurie_guilbeau @RoCa74394915 Lilith comes from Jewish myths which are not part of scripture and which we should avoid. "Nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies, which

1Ti 1:4 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-09

@missnic06 There are scriptures that refer to these kinds of Jewish myths and tells us not to follow them. "Nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies, which promote speculations rather than the stewardship from God that is by faith” ...

@missnic06 There are scriptures that refer to these kinds of Jewish myths and tells us not to follow them. "Nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies, which promote speculations rathe

1Ti 1:4 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-26

@rofbethany @CherylSchatz 1. Again, just because someone is identified with their husband (perhaps because it was the men who are in the genealogies), it does not mean that Deborah was “qualified” by her husband. I ask you again, what do you mean she...

@rofbethany @CherylSchatz 1. Again, just because someone is identified with their husband (perhaps because it was the men who are in the genealogies), it does not mean that Deborah was “qualified” by

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-10

@NotTheBaptizer @KimberleeJayneW @deadtosin610 I get it. Paul left Timothy in Ephesus to stop certain people from teaching strange doctrines. It’s certainly a thing. But the idea that a godly woman can teach men or not is not one of those things Paul...

@NotTheBaptizer @KimberleeJayneW @deadtosin610 I get it. Paul left Timothy in Ephesus to stop certain people from teaching strange doctrines. It’s certainly a thing. But the idea that a godly woman ca

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-26

@RovingWolv @LutheranLifter "Just as I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, to remain on at Ephesus so that you would instruct ***certain people*** not to teach ***strange doctrines,*** nor to pay attention to myths and endless genealogies, wh...

@RovingWolv @LutheranLifter "Just as I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, to remain on at Ephesus so that you would instruct ***certain people*** not to teach ***strange doctrines,*** nor to

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-22

@MarkGrote While Artemis was important in Ephesian life, I highly doubt that this was the problem in the church since: - Paul’s preaching resulted in the new believers abandoning Artemis almost like it was the mark of what a Christian was - Paul ment...

@MarkGrote While Artemis was important in Ephesian life, I highly doubt that this was the problem in the church since: - Paul’s preaching resulted in the new believers abandoning Artemis almost like i

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-11

@JonKismetCalvin @ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry Hi John, I'm not sure that Artemis is something Paul is bringing into the context of 1 Timothy. Paul references: 1. v4: fables and genealogies (which cause disputes rather than ...

@JonKismetCalvin @ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry Hi John, I'm not sure that Artemis is something Paul is bringing into the context of 1 Timothy. Paul references: 1. v4: fables

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-25

@Yessiiiiir @MikeWingerii Paul says to Timothy in 1 Tim 1:3-4, “Just as I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, to remain on at Ephesus so that you would instruct certain people not to teach strange doctrines, nor to pay attention to myths and e...

@Yessiiiiir @MikeWingerii Paul says to Timothy in 1 Tim 1:3-4, “Just as I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, to remain on at Ephesus so that you would instruct certain people not to teach stra

1 Tim 1:3-4 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-20

@MariusM38610501 @MikeWingerii I agree, yet he doesn’t explicitly identify what the source of the issues are or tie them to Artemis cult activities somehow getting into the church. What we see in 1 Timothy is: 1. Myths and Endless Genealogies (1:4)...

@MariusM38610501 @MikeWingerii I agree, yet he doesn’t explicitly identify what the source of the issues are or tie them to Artemis cult activities somehow getting into the church. What we see in 1 T

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-02

@IdorenyinEtuk5 @Drprincessjanet @Solomon_Buchi Yes, one should not pay attention to myths. In 1 Tim 1:3-4, Paul instructs Timothy to tell the Ephesian believers not to occupy themselves with myths and endless genealogies which promote controversies...

@IdorenyinEtuk5 @Drprincessjanet @Solomon_Buchi Yes, one should not pay attention to myths. In 1 Tim 1:3-4, Paul instructs Timothy to tell the Ephesian believers not to occupy themselves with myths a

1 Tim 1:3-4 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2013-01-03

Biblical chronogenealogies -- How do we arrive at approx 6000 years for the age

Biblical chronogenealogies -- How do we arrive at approx 6000 years for the age of the earth from the Bible? http://t.co/WUynl1R

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Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 2:11-15

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Timothy 2:11-15 specific woman,deception,authenteo,grammar,perfect tense,future tense,anaphoric,egalitarian,ephesus,teknogonia,singular plural,historical perfect,verbal aspect,paul as pattern
Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 1:3-5

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis

1 Timothy 1:3-5 false teaching Ephesus strange doctrines
Theology verse entry

Revelation 2:14

Sections: exegesis, greek_analysis

Revelation 2:14 Balaam false teaching didasko
Theology verse entry

Revelation 2:20

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis

Revelation 2:20 Jezebel false prophetess didasko
Theology greek term

διδάσκω (didasko)

to teach

greek
Theology greek term

ἑτεροδιδασκαλέω (heterodidaskaleo)

to teach differently / to teach strange doctrine

greek
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Aaron Ra's list of unmet messianic prophecies — Jesus was not Jewish? He was not of tribe of Judah?

Ra presents a list of six messianic prophecies he claims Jesus failed to fulfill

Matthew genealogy Luke genealogy Messianic prophecy Genealogy of Jesus Matthew genealogy
Mike Winger idea 2021-02-05

Adam and Eve as historical people: consistency as a Christian requires affirming their historicity, but salvation does not depend on this doctrine.

Question from Loretta Taylor about whether Christian faith requires Adam and Eve to be literal historical people.

Genesis Romans 5 Genesis Romans 5 Adam and Eve
Mike Winger idea 2021-05-28

Jesus’ Genealogy/Lineage: How historically plausible is it that the Jesus‘ genealogies in Matthew and Luke authentically trace back to the Exile, Kind David, Abraham, and so on?

Q&A question: Jesus’ Genealogy/Lineage

Matthew David Abraham Jesus
Mike Winger idea 2021-05-07

Contradicting Genealogies?: Why are the genealogies of Jesus different in the Gospels of Matthew and Luke?

Q&A question: Contradicting Genealogies?

Matthew Jesus Matthew