Where Mike Winger Went Wrong on Women

Comprehensive response to the entire Mike Winger Women in Ministry video series (Parts 1-13)

The Debates Over 1 Timothy 2

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the debates over 1 Timothy 2:11-15

Why Mike Winger is Wrong About “Authenteō” in 1 Timothy 2:12 – and Why It Matters

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the meaning of authenteō in 1 Timothy 2:12

A 14-Point Biblical Case for Women Leaders and Teachers And Why Mike Winger, The Gospel Coalition, and the Southern Baptists Are Wrong About This

A 14-point biblical case for women leaders and teachers, responding to Mike Winger, The Gospel Coalition, and the Southern Baptists

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Women Apostles

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 5 on whether women were apostles in the New Testament

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Women Leaders in the New Testament (PART A)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 4 on women leaders in the New Testament (Part A)

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Women Leaders in the New Testament (PART B)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 4 on women leaders in the New Testament (Part B)

Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free? Parts 5-7: 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 3, Galatians 3:28

[Music] the women are to keep silent in the churches for they are not permitted to speak but are to subject themselves just as the law also says if they desire to learn anything let them ask their own husbands at home for it is improper for a woman to speak in church 1 Corinthians 14 has been a diff...

Masculine Christianity

This is part 2 of What God intended at creation and it is inspired by a recent lecture given by John Piper where he states that God’s intention for Christianity is for it to have a “ masculine feel “. After discussing John Piper’s Masculine Christianity, I will give my critique of his masculine argu

Comp View Of 1Cor11 Mark

This post is a first. I have never before taken the writing of a complementarian and posted it on my blog

Evaluating Schatz Seaver Debate

On July 27th, 2009 Mike Seaver and I started a ten session debate on Women in Ministry where I was able to ask Mike questions on his position, he answered my questions and then we each had one response. Mike is still considering whether he will continue with another ten sessions where Mike will ask

Mike Seaver And Cheryl Schatz 7

Mike Seaver And Cheryl Schatz Debate 6

In the last blog post Cheryl Schatz posed her third set of questions to Mike Seaver regarding their debate on women in ministry. Links to all the previous questions and responses is at the end of this post

Mike Seaver And Cheryl Schatz Discussdebate Women In Ministry 4

## Are Witnesses and Repetition needed to Prove Women may not teach the Bible

Mike Seaver And Cheryl Schatz 3

## Is there a Second Witness that forbids Christian women from teaching the Bible to men

Mike Seaver And Cheryl Schatz 2

## Facing the spiritual “law” head-on from 1 Corinthians 14

Mike Seaver And Cheryl Schatz 1

## Building Bridges on the Women in Ministry debate

Semigalitariansim And Feminist Air

When does explaining God’s Word make one an enemy of the church. According to Mike Seaver, a woman who is allowed to teach the Word of God to men, even if she is under the authority of her husband and even if she has received authority from her pastor to teach the Bible (and assuming her pastor is m

Paul Women Pastors 8

This is the eighth in a series of simulated interviews with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day

They Are Sinning Through Questioning

The issue of women in ministry allows us to the opportunity to ask questions about the hard passages of scripture and to work through these passages to discover God’s intended meaning through the inspired context. But in many quarters, questioning is a “sin” that will get a reprimand from a strong a

Pulpit Authority

In my last post called 1 Timothy 2, authority and the magical pulpit , I was waiting for someone to bring up Hebrew 13:17. Since no one brought up this verse in the comments, but I did receive an email that asked me to respond to how this scripture fits in with my last post, I thought my response sh

Gods Woman Is She Needy Of A Representative Priest Part 2

In part one, ( click here to read ) we discussed whether God created the woman as needed or needy. In this continuing discussion we ask whether God has ordained that a woman must have a priest in the home to represent her to God and God to her

The Rest Of The Story 1 Timothy 211 15 And Matt Slick

> Proverbs 18:17 (ESV) The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him

Does Husband Of One Wife Disqualify Women From Being A Pastor

I was listening to the January 26, 2007 radio program online by Matt Slick of carm. org

@NicolasGold1 @MikeWingerii Ah, I see where you were going. Wives are not being

@NicolasGold1 @MikeWingerii Ah, I see where you were going. Wives are not being called kephale or “authorities over” but managers which is a servant role. A very similar thing is stated in 1Ti 3:4 of

@NavyServant_61 @Toneskeee @AlanChilde36050 If an overseer has to be a husband, that would mean Paul himself would be disqualified. How is that possible? And Timothy was also likely single. Peter calls himself a fellow elder, so don’t think an apostl...

@NavyServant_61 @Toneskeee @AlanChilde36050 If an overseer has to be a husband, that would mean Paul himself would be disqualified. How is that possible? And Timothy was also likely single. Peter call

@BaptistClips Curious. If Paul wasn’t also an elder/overseer, then I don’t know who was. A Positive Case for Paul as an Elder Though Paul never calls himself an elder, the NT presents him as one in function and spirit. Shepherding Paul exhibits th...

@BaptistClips Curious. If Paul wasn’t also an elder/overseer, then I don’t know who was. A Positive Case for Paul as an Elder Though Paul never calls himself an elder, the NT presents him as one in

@sl4Yahweh I understand this view. I just don’t see this anywhere in scripture.

@sl4Yahweh I understand this view. I just don’t see this anywhere in scripture. Nowhere in scripture is any apostle, elder, rabbi/teacher, deacon, overseer/bishop, prophet, etc called the head of anyo

@ryancduff I know. Yet here’s the catch: they think that head means the authorit

@ryancduff I know. Yet here’s the catch: they think that head means the authority over, the boss of, the one that makes all the decisions. Yet ‘head’ is only used in the context of marriage and never

@Here4Now0829 Nice catch on Judas! Indeed the word used is the same as in 1Ti 3:1 and Tit 1:7, though this was before the church. However, from this you could infer that all of the 12 apostles were overseers (and thus elders). However, that you had ...

@Here4Now0829 Nice catch on Judas! Indeed the word used is the same as in 1Ti 3:1 and Tit 1:7, though this was before the church. However, from this you could infer that all of the 12 apostles were ov

@robotcop1984 @sola_chad “Women likewise…” “Likewise” (ὡσαύτως) connects these women to the previous category (i.e., overseers or deacons), just as 1Ti 3:8 uses the same word to transition to deacons. Paul highlights some special things for women bu...

@robotcop1984 @sola_chad “Women likewise…” “Likewise” (ὡσαύτως) connects these women to the previous category (i.e., overseers or deacons), just as 1Ti 3:8 uses the same word to transition to deacons

@robotcop1984 @sola_chad Paul is most definitely an overseer in addition to an a

@robotcop1984 @sola_chad Paul is most definitely an overseer in addition to an apostle. Are you saying that Paul is disqualified because he wasn’t married?

@LukeBennerE @sola_chad Yes, pastors are overseers. Now what about the question

@LukeBennerE @sola_chad Yes, pastors are overseers. Now what about the question I asked? What specific males are called ‘pastor’ in the New Testament so we can know whether it is meaningful if no woma

@JEM_Books @sola_chad @ElleRulavage Where in scripture does it say Timothy was t

@JEM_Books @sola_chad @ElleRulavage Where in scripture does it say Timothy was the pastor, or even an elder or an overseer? We rightly assume so, but it’s not explicit. If it is, please show me where.

RT @ryanschatz: A common objection to women serving as pastors cites 1 Timothy 3

RT @ryanschatz: A common objection to women serving as pastors cites 1 Timothy 3:2: "An overseer must be... the husband of one wife." Does…

@LiamHarperBlack @autocorrect2_0 But if 'head' means 'the boss of' and 'the one

@LiamHarperBlack @autocorrect2_0 But if 'head' means 'the boss of' and 'the one responsible for others', you don't think an apostle, prophet, judge, elder, overseer, pastor⎯anyone at all had responsib

@EricisAmerican @Protestia Can you list who specifically the NT notes as being c

@EricisAmerican @Protestia Can you list who specifically the NT notes as being called a pastor (poimen)? How about who is explicitly called an elder (presbyteros)? How about overseer (episkopos)?

@Pastor_Gabe @jerryzz2 Eisegesis. There is nothing forbidding women from serving

@Pastor_Gabe @jerryzz2 Eisegesis. There is nothing forbidding women from serving as elders or overseers. https://t.co/VI2qbiI67E

@ncksmith Complementarians almost all believe that males alone are to be elders, pastors and overseers. Some go further. Some claim that a female elder is apostasy or on the way. That’s where their understanding is severely flawed. And the thinking ...

@ncksmith Complementarians almost all believe that males alone are to be elders, pastors and overseers. Some go further. Some claim that a female elder is apostasy or on the way. That’s where their un

No pastor, elder, overseer, apostle, deacon, prophet, or father is ever called head (kephalē) in the NT. If head simply means authority or boss, why is kephalē never used for any leader in the church? Why is a father never called the kephalē of hi...

No pastor, elder, overseer, apostle, deacon, prophet, or father is ever called head (kephalē) in the NT. If head simply means authority or boss, why is kephalē never used for any leader in the church

@JohnMar98888097 @smashbaals But you take it too far to say God commands the pastor be male. There is no command here, and in Koine Greek, the male form can be used in a generic way of both male and female depending on the context. To clarify, Paul w...

@JohnMar98888097 @smashbaals But you take it too far to say God commands the pastor be male. There is no command here, and in Koine Greek, the male form can be used in a generic way of both male and f

@JohnMar98888097 @smashbaals That’s a misreading of the idiom Paul is using sinc

@JohnMar98888097 @smashbaals That’s a misreading of the idiom Paul is using since taken literally, it means you have to be married which would disqualify Paul himself and he was most definitely an ove

@MarqueStuddock @smashbaals How do you know this exactly? Can you list each of t

@MarqueStuddock @smashbaals How do you know this exactly? Can you list each of the men called pastor or elder in the New Testament? What are their names and where were they called pastor/elder/oversee

@Gates_of_Derry @colinsmo Someone who advocates for plural marriages is clearly doing something that is not promoted in the New Testament. 1Ti 3:2 can’t mean that an overseer must be married (Paul was single) or male but it certainly means monogamous...

@Gates_of_Derry @colinsmo Someone who advocates for plural marriages is clearly doing something that is not promoted in the New Testament. 1Ti 3:2 can’t mean that an overseer must be married (Paul was

@DavePellowe @MikeWingerii Yes, elders and pastors and overseers all require the

@DavePellowe @MikeWingerii Yes, elders and pastors and overseers all require the same things and are basically the same function. It is not about headship. Where is an elder referred to as the head of

@tybobeam @MikeWingerii Is this man an overseer or just someone giving a speech?

@tybobeam @MikeWingerii Is this man an overseer or just someone giving a speech?

@JamesPelton18 @Calebclind231 @autocorrect2_0 Please go back to the New Testamen

@JamesPelton18 @Calebclind231 @autocorrect2_0 Please go back to the New Testament, not church history. List for me specific individuals who are called pastor, elder or overseer.

@JamesPelton18 @Calebclind231 @autocorrect2_0 I think you are mistaken. Think about it. 1Ti 3 also seems to suggest that an overseer must be a married man with more than one child all of who are believing (so they have to mature sufficiently to be ab...

@JamesPelton18 @Calebclind231 @autocorrect2_0 I think you are mistaken. Think about it. 1Ti 3 also seems to suggest that an overseer must be a married man with more than one child all of who are belie

@Calebclind231 @JamesPelton18 @autocorrect2_0 James, please provide me a list of people explicitly identified as pastor or elder or overseer in the New Testament. What I am looking for is the name of a person and a statement clearly identifying them ...

@Calebclind231 @JamesPelton18 @autocorrect2_0 James, please provide me a list of people explicitly identified as pastor or elder or overseer in the New Testament. What I am looking for is the name of

@LovesSardine If someone believes they are following scripture, how is that pride? I believe scripture encourages those who have the appropriate character and ability and desire to serve as overseers⎯they desire a good thing! You cannot presume the ...

@LovesSardine If someone believes they are following scripture, how is that pride? I believe scripture encourages those who have the appropriate character and ability and desire to serve as overseers⎯