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Scripture Commentary article 2026-03-30

1 Corinthians 14 — Research Notes (Cheryl Schatz)

Collection of 5 research notes examining 1 Corinthians 14:34-36, including the eta particle argument for quotation/refutation reading, the non-existent 'law' reference, segregated seating problems, and commentary from RtNT and Bender showing contradictions with Paul's affirmation of women prophesying.

1 Cor 11:2-16 1 Cor 11:22 1 Cor 6:2 1 Corinthians 14 Authority & Submission Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2024-09-03

Where Mike Winger Went Wrong on Women

Comprehensive response to the entire Mike Winger Women in Ministry video series (Parts 1-13)

1 Cor 14:35-36 1 Corinthians 11:10 1 Corinthians 11:12 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2024-06-19

The Debates Over 1 Timothy 2

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the debates over 1 Timothy 2:11-15

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Corinthians 10:11 1 Corinthians 12:1-11 1 Timothy 2 Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2024-02-07

Why Mike Winger is Wrong About “Authenteō” in 1 Timothy 2:12 – and Why It Matters

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the meaning of authenteō in 1 Timothy 2:12

1 Cor. 7:13 1 Corinthians 12:27-31 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2023-03-10

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: “Women Keep Silent” (1 Cor 14:34–35)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 11 on 'women keep silent' in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35

1 Cor 14:35-36 1 Cor. 14:21 1 Corinthians 11:11 1 Corinthians 14 Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2023-03-09

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Women Apostles

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 5 on whether women were apostles in the New Testament

1 Corinthians 12:28 1 Corinthians 12:7 1 Corinthians 15:5 Women in Leadership Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2023-01-19

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: The Head Covering Debates (1 Cor 11)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 10 on the head covering debates in 1 Corinthians 11

1 Corinthians 11:10 1 Corinthians 11:11 1 Corinthians 11:11-12 1 Corinthians 11 Headship & Kephale Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2023-01-17

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Male Headship: Is It Really Biblical?

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 8 on male headship and whether it is really biblical

1 Corinthians 11:3 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 1 Corinthians 6:18-20 Ephesians 5 1 Corinthians 11 Headship & Kephale
Scripture Commentary article 2022-11-25

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Women Leaders in the New Testament (PART A)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 4 on women leaders in the New Testament (Part A)

1 Cor. 12:1–30 1 Corinthians 1:11 1 Corinthians 1:16 Women in Leadership Complementarianism Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2022-11-24

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong With Genesis 1–3: ‘Was Women’s Submission Just A Curse To Be Overturned?’

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 2 on Genesis 1-3 and whether women's submission was just a curse to be overturned

1 Corinthians 11:7-10 1 Corinthians 15:22 1 Corinthians 16:15-16 Genesis & Creation Authority & Submission Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2017-06-08

Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free? Parts 5-7: 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 3, Galatians 3:28

[Music] the women are to keep silent in the churches for they are not permitted to speak but are to subject themselves just as the law also says if they desire to learn anything let them ask their own husbands at home for it is improper for a woman to speak in church 1 Corinthians 14 has been a diff...

1 Corinthians 14:12 1 Corinthians 14:13 1 Corinthians 14:26 1 Corinthians 14 Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2012-07-29

Putting Jesus in His Place: The Case for the Deity of Christ

Robert Bowman, J. Ed Komoszewski, and Darrell L. Bock — Kindle highlights from 'Putting Jesus in His Place: The Case for the Deity of Christ'. 100 highlights.

1 Cor. 15:24 1 Kings 8:27 1 Thess. 1:3 Trinity Christology Apologetics
Scripture Commentary article 2009-09-19

Evaluating Schatz Seaver Debate

On July 27th, 2009 Mike Seaver and I started a ten session debate on Women in Ministry where I was able to ask Mike questions on his position, he answered my questions and then we each had one response. Mike is still considering whether he will continue with another ten sessions where Mike will ask

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 1 Peter 4:10 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Corinthians 14 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-08-05

Mike Seaver And Cheryl Schatz Discussdebate Women In Ministry 4

## Are Witnesses and Repetition needed to Prove Women may not teach the Bible

1 Corinthians 11:27 1 Corinthians 12:21 1 Corinthians 12:7 1 Timothy 2 1 Corinthians 14 Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2009-07-12

Wayne Grudem 3

This is the part 3 of answering Wayne Grudem’s “ Open letter to Egalitarians ” and his “Six Questions That Have Never Been Satisfactorily Answered”. Today I am posting his third question and my own answer

1 Corinthians 14:1 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 1 Corinthians 14:36 1 Corinthians 14 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-12-01

Do Egalitarians Twist The Scriptures

The charge is often laid that egalitarians twist the scriptures. I would like to apply a saying that I read recently

1 Corinthians 11:10 1 Corinthians 14:34 1 Corinthians 7:36 1 Timothy 2 1 Corinthians 11 1 Corinthians 14
Scripture Commentary article 2006-09-23

Another Complementarian Pastor Responds

I am preparing a talk on women in ministry partly based on questions and challenges presented to me by a complementarian Pastor from a large denomination which restricts women from teaching the bible to men. Here are excerpts that he gave regarding our DVD teaching series on Women in Ministry:

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 1 Corinthians 14 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-07-09

@KennethOrtiz @BronWen727104 @Paula_333 For 1Cor 14:34-35, we know that Paul is responding to things that the Corinthians wrote to him in a prior letter (see 1Cor 7:1). There are no quotation marks in the original Greek so we have to infer what Paul ...

@KennethOrtiz @BronWen727104 @Paula_333 For 1Cor 14:34-35, we know that Paul is responding to things that the Corinthians wrote to him in a prior letter (see 1Cor 7:1). There are no quotation marks in

1Cor 14:34-35 1Cor 7:1 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-07-06

@Paula_333 No, that's not it. Paul is clearly responding to things that the Corinthians wrote (see 1Co 7:1), but there are not quotation marks in the Greek manuscript, so you have to infer the quotes. 1Co 14:34-35 clearly stand out from the rest of t...

@Paula_333 No, that's not it. Paul is clearly responding to things that the Corinthians wrote (see 1Co 7:1), but there are not quotation marks in the Greek manuscript, so you have to infer the quotes.

1Co 14:34-35 1Co 7:1 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-05-20

@Meritocrating @_Nosoup4you__ @FavaAnthony @_NoSoup4You_ I haven't dismissed the text a single time. Paul was quoting from the letter from the Corinthians, right? Or did *YOU* dismiss this fact from 1Cor 7:1? Did you know that quotation marks are not...

@Meritocrating @_Nosoup4you__ @FavaAnthony @_NoSoup4You_ I haven't dismissed the text a single time. Paul was quoting from the letter from the Corinthians, right? Or did *YOU* dismiss this fact from 1

1Cor 7:1 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-01-24

@ImRevAlan @PFKHealth @BornAgainMissy Surely you know the NT is written in Greek? Paul is quoting from the letter from the Corinthians after 1Co 7:1 but there’s no quotation marks in the original manuscripts. Are you aware of this? Why did Paul chang...

@ImRevAlan @PFKHealth @BornAgainMissy Surely you know the NT is written in Greek? Paul is quoting from the letter from the Corinthians after 1Co 7:1 but there’s no quotation marks in the original manu

1Co 7:1 1Ti 2:11-12 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-06

Patriarchalist @ZacharyGarris in “Masculine Christianity” refutes @MikeWingerii on his judging prophecy interpretation of 1Co 14:34-35. The reasons Garris gives are some good reasons to reject Winger’s interpretation. I take the quotation refutation ...

Patriarchalist @ZacharyGarris in “Masculine Christianity” refutes @MikeWingerii on his judging prophecy interpretation of 1Co 14:34-35. The reasons Garris gives are some good reasons to reject Winger’

1Co 14:34-35 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-04

@JoanBandy Are you suggesting v10 is a quotation from the Corinthians? Or is it

@JoanBandy Are you suggesting v10 is a quotation from the Corinthians? Or is it because of the spies that the woman should have authority over her own head? That seems a bit opposite what I’d expect i

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-22

@ronhenzel @thecrazypastor While it is true that Paul often introduces quotations or topics from the Corinthians with “Περὶ δὲ” (Peri de, “Now concerning…”), he also employs rhetorical questions and contrastive arguments to distinguish his views from...

@ronhenzel @thecrazypastor While it is true that Paul often introduces quotations or topics from the Corinthians with “Περὶ δὲ” (Peri de, “Now concerning…”), he also employs rhetorical questions and c

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-22

@ronhenzel 1. Paul writes in 1Co 7:1, "Now concerning the things about which you wrote..." ⎯ since there are no quotation marks in the Greek manuscripts, any quotations are determined by the details in the context. Your statement that there's nothin...

@ronhenzel 1. Paul writes in 1Co 7:1, "Now concerning the things about which you wrote..." ⎯ since there are no quotation marks in the Greek manuscripts, any quotations are determined by the details i

1Co 7:1 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @pastherandie @kriesese @smashbaals Paul uses the phrase “Now concerning” to transition topics or to respond to a question they asked. In the case of 1Co 14:34-35, there is no question and Paul is not changing topics, so why is...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @pastherandie @kriesese @smashbaals Paul uses the phrase “Now concerning” to transition topics or to respond to a question they asked. In the case of 1Co 14:34-35, there is no q

1Co 14:34-35 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-22

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii I just read "Hard Sayings of the Bible," by Walter C. Kaiser Jr, Peter H Davids, FF Bruce, Manfred T. Brauch from 1996. The part on 1Co 14:34-35 does not propose...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii I just read "Hard Sayings of the Bible," by Walter C. Kaiser Jr, Peter H Davids, FF Bruce, Manfred T. Brauch fro

1Co 14:34-35 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@JollyStine @ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii The vi

@JollyStine @ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii The view that Paul is silencing unruly women in all the churches doesn’t make sense of the details in these verses. The only v

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-26

@TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Related to 1Co 14:34, we already know that Paul was responding to things the Corinthians wrote in their letter to him (see 1Co 7:1). Except we don't have quotation marks in the Greek manuscripts. You have to in...

@TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Related to 1Co 14:34, we already know that Paul was responding to things the Corinthians wrote in their letter to him (see 1Co 7:1). Except we don't have quotat

1Co 14:34 1Co 7:1 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@LapisRobustus No. Let's start with 1 Cor 14:34-35. Paul is responding to things the Corinthians wrote to him in their prior letter. These verses can be taken with quotation marks. Paul then says in v36, “What? came the word of God out from you [men]...

@LapisRobustus No. Let's start with 1 Cor 14:34-35. Paul is responding to things the Corinthians wrote to him in their prior letter. These verses can be taken with quotation marks. Paul then says in v

1 Cor 14:34-35 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-17

@radical_monk @FlanaganLovesGA Actually, verses 34-35 are a quotation from the l

@radical_monk @FlanaganLovesGA Actually, verses 34-35 are a quotation from the letter from the Corinthians that Paul is refuting. Paul is not silencing women as is clear from the rest of the chapter

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-31

@MargMowczko Since Paul was responding to the letter from the Corinthians (see 1 Cor 7:1) and since we don't have quotation marks and have to infer them by the context, wouldn't it make sense that Paul was quoting from their letter which was from Jud...

@MargMowczko Since Paul was responding to the letter from the Corinthians (see 1 Cor 7:1) and since we don't have quotation marks and have to infer them by the context, wouldn't it make sense that Pau

1 Cor 7:1 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-07

@TetzlaffJoshua @jhillky2 @NiceNeanderthal @Red_Beard_1Sgt What if Paul is quoting from the letter from the Corinthians (which he did frequently in 1 Corinthians (he indicates this in 1 Cor 7:1)? What if this is not a law of God but one that contrad...

@TetzlaffJoshua @jhillky2 @NiceNeanderthal @Red_Beard_1Sgt What if Paul is quoting from the letter from the Corinthians (which he did frequently in 1 Corinthians (he indicates this in 1 Cor 7:1)? Wha

1 Cor 7:1 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@Snuggernaut1 @chadlyrose @sovereignbrah Except Paul is refuting this quotation

@Snuggernaut1 @chadlyrose @sovereignbrah Except Paul is refuting this quotation from the Corinthian letter. https://t.co/0UJxaSEb7U

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

12/23🧵Just looking at the translations you can see that some use quotation marks

12/23🧵Just looking at the translations you can see that some use quotation marks, some don’t. Some use commas or colons. Imagine how easy it is to misunderstand this to mean that Paul was advocating

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-13

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz There’s no quotation marks so all quotes are inferred but Paul says in 1 Cor 7:1 “Now about the matters you wrote” so we know he is addressing things from their letter. I gave the illustration of an intersection w...

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz There’s no quotation marks so all quotes are inferred but Paul says in 1 Cor 7:1 “Now about the matters you wrote” so we know he is addressing things from their let

1 Cor 7:1 debate
Theology verse entry

Ephesians 5:18-33

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Ephesians 5:18-33 mutual submission,kephale,source,marriage,kenosis,Spirit-filled,husbands love,wives submit,egalitarian,hupotasso,allelon,household code,head-body metaphor,agapao,self-sacrifice,great mystery,Christ and church,one flesh
Theology verse entry

Acts 2:17-18

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Acts 2:17-18 pentecost,prophecy,sons daughters,Holy Spirit,last days,egalitarian,Joel
Theology verse entry

1 Corinthians 14:33-37

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Corinthians 14:33-37 interpolation,textual criticism,silence,quotation,Western text,women speaking,women silent,Corinthian quotation,oral law,Pharisees,rhetorical refutation,eta particle,women in ministry,egalitarian,complementarian debate
Theology verse entry

Joel 2:28-29

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Joel 2:28-29 prophecy,Spirit outpouring,daughters,women prophets,Pentecost,egalitarian,Joel,Acts 2,Peter sermon,last days
Theology greek term

ἤ (e/eta)

or; disjunctive particle used for rhetorical refutation

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Theology greek term

μὴ κωλύετε (me koluete)

do not forbid, stop forbidding

greek
Theology greek term

λαλέω (laleo)

to speak, to talk, to proclaim; general word for verbal expression

greek
Theology greek term

προφητεύσουσιν (prophēteusousin)

they will prophesy (future active indicative, 3rd plural)

greek
Mike Winger idea 2022-07-18

Kroeger's selective Chrysostom quote: she omits sentences before, after, and within the passage

Mike examines how Kroeger presents Chrysostom's words.

John Chrysostom John Chrysostom Kathleen Kroeger Wayne Grudem
Mike Winger idea 2022-07-18

Church history conclusion: the church has virtually always agreed that headship means authority and that eldership is male-only

Mike summarizes the church history argument.

church history male eldership female deacons
Mike Winger idea 2022-11-11

The refutation/reputation view: Paul is quoting and refuting the Corinthians

Mike presents the third interpretive approach.

refutation view reputation view Corinthian quotations
Mike Winger idea 2022-11-11

Question 2: Is Paul refuting rather than teaching? Examples of Corinthian quotations

Mike evaluates the refutation view more carefully.

1 Corinthians 6:12-13 Corinthian quotations Katherine Bushnell Alan Padgett
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Introduction of View 2: The Quotation-Refutation View

Mike introduces the view that Paul is quoting the Corinthians and then refuting them in verse 36.

1 Corinthians 14:36 quotation-refutation view 1 Corinthians 14:36
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

View 2 analysis: The Quotation-Refutation View and Beth Allison Barr's promotion of it

Mike begins analyzing the quotation-refutation view, noting Beth Allison Barr as a key proponent.

Beth Allison Barr The Making of Biblical Womanhood quotation-refutation view
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