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Scripture Commentary article 2017-06-07

Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free? Part 4: 1 Timothy 2 Deception & the First Created

[Music] 1 Timothy Chapter 2 has been a difficult passage for Bible interpreters because of several hard to understand verses yet while Paul's reasoning is thought to be somewhat obscure this chapter has been seen by some as the clearest passage that says when women are not allowed to teach or to hav...

1 Timothy 1:13 1 Timothy 2:1 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2 Adam & Eve Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2011-09-22

Eve Prototype

This post is the second part of an expansion on the reasons why I believe that 1 Timothy 2:11-15 is about one specific woman and why a general reference to women does not line up with the grammar within the surrounding context. The first points 1 – 4 are discussed here

1 Timothy 1:13 1 Timothy 1:16 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2 Adam & Eve Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2011-06-25

Specific Or General Woman

This post will be an expansion on the reasons why I believe that 1 Timothy 2:11-15 is about one specific woman and why a general reference to women does not line up with the grammar within the surrounding context. I will also consider the challenge to my view from the new verbal aspect theory

1 Timothy 1:13 1 Timothy 1:16 1 Timothy 2:10 1 Timothy 2 Adam & Eve Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2011-06-05

Prohibit Teaching A Man

Some egalitarians suggest that the object “a man” in 1 Timothy 2:12 should rightfully be connected to only one verb “authentein” and that the infinitive form of the verb “to teach” was not meant to be connected to the object “man”

1 Timothy 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2:14 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2010-08-03

A Woman Anaphoric

In a recent blog post , there has been some discussion on 1 Timothy 2:11, 12 in the comment section, and the question of whether “a woman” is generic woman or a specific woman. I always appreciate questions and challenges on my position as it continually pushes me to continue to do research in order

1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-09-30

Neopatriarch Once Again Fails To Refute Cheryl Schatz

## Challenging my position that 1 Timothy 2:15 is a single woman

1 Timothy 2:10 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2:11-12 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-05-30

Neopatriarch Fails To Refute Cheryl

Some have wondered why “Chris” the complementarian stopped posting here. Apparently, he could not get his refutation of my work to stand in an interactive forum so he moved it over to a place where he could have the floor to himself

1 Timothy 2:10 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2:11-12 1 Timothy 2 Complementarianism Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2009-03-20

Round 3 Interview With Paul On A Woman

This post is the third one of a simulated interview with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day. Doug, a strong complementarian has been given the opportunity to ask Paul about

1 Corinthians 14:23 1 Corinthians 14:24 1 Corinthians 14:25 1 Timothy 2 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-06-09

Noodling With The Greek Grammar

While I have made a very strong point of the Greek grammar in 1 Timothy 2:15 with the singular “she” and the plural “they” (no specific gender for “they”), some have been trying hard to wiggle out of the implications that Paul is referring to a specific woman because the only living person at that t

1 Peter 4:11 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2:15 1 Timothy 2 Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2008-05-07

Answering Matt Slicks Agenda On 1 Timothy 2:12

This is part 2 of answering the complementarian objections of Matt Slick on 1 Timothy 2:11-15. See part one here

1 Peter 4:11 1 Timothy 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2 Genesis & Creation Adam & Eve
Scripture Commentary article 2008-05-06

1Tim2Objections

My article laying out the original argument showing that 1 Timothy 2:12 is a specific woman that Paul forbids from teaching is here

1 Timothy 1:12 1 Timothy 1:13 1 Timothy 1:14 1 Timothy 2 Adam & Eve Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2007-09-30

The Rest Of The Story 1 Timothy 211 15 And Matt Slick

> Proverbs 18:17 (ESV) The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him

1 Peter 4:10 1 Peter 4:11 1 Timothy 1:13 1 Timothy 2 Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2007-09-23

Debating Women In Ministry Round 2

On Wednesday September 26, 2007 I will be having round number 2 with Matt Slick on the issue of women in ministry. We will be dealing with 1 Timothy 2 and the issues of whether “a woman” is a specific woman in Ephesus or whether Paul is prohibiting all Christian women from teaching men (or some vari

Isaiah 5 Numbers 2 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2007-09-19

Debate Audio Between Matt Slick And Cheryl Schatz

If you didn’t get a chance to hear the debate regarding women Pastors between Matt Slick of CARM and myself, you can hear it at this link

1 Timothy 2:12 Esther 18 Hosea 1 1 Timothy 2 Adam & Eve Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-10-30

@grok @quathamer @dalepartridge How did you decide between a specific woman and the anaphoric use of the article and a generic woman? How does your view tie the context together with Paul’s stated intent, writing specifically to Timothy to deal with ...

@grok @quathamer @dalepartridge How did you decide between a specific woman and the anaphoric use of the article and a generic woman? How does your view tie the context together with Paul’s stated int

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-10-11

@rfl3tcher @Toneskeee If context is key, then how can you ignore that Paul was writing about false teachers? And Paul speaks about women (pl) in 2:9-10 and then uses the singular in 2:11-12. He doesn’t say “women are not to teach…men” but refers to ‘...

@rfl3tcher @Toneskeee If context is key, then how can you ignore that Paul was writing about false teachers? And Paul speaks about women (pl) in 2:9-10 and then uses the singular in 2:11-12. He doesn’

in 2:11-12 in 2:9-10 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-07-12

@VirgilWalkerOMA The singular could be generic (all women) or specific. Since Paul just used the plural, a shift to the singular stands out if he means any individual woman. His use of the woman with the article in 2:14 means we must at least conside...

@VirgilWalkerOMA The singular could be generic (all women) or specific. Since Paul just used the plural, a shift to the singular stands out if he means any individual woman. His use of the woman with

in 2:14 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-07-07

@carol66944 @OrinRomine Trying to make 1Ti 2:15 into typology of Christ overrides Paul’s grammar and context. The verse speaks of a specific woman’s salvation contingent on “they” (she and her husband?) continuing in faith. It’s practical hope, not h...

@carol66944 @OrinRomine Trying to make 1Ti 2:15 into typology of Christ overrides Paul’s grammar and context. The verse speaks of a specific woman’s salvation contingent on “they” (she and her husband

1Ti 2:15 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-07-06

@FlyingHowitzer You are referring to 1Ti 1:12. It’s not referring to pastors, the context of the letter is stopping false teaching, the grammar is explicitly singular and the ‘the woman’ gives us evidence that there’s a specific woman who is deceived...

@FlyingHowitzer You are referring to 1Ti 1:12. It’s not referring to pastors, the context of the letter is stopping false teaching, the grammar is explicitly singular and the ‘the woman’ gives us evid

1Ti 1:12 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-06-19

@Ryan_Adair_A My comments were very much focused on 1Ti 2:12 and it’s context. Is there anywhere where someone is not permitted to teach truth to someone? Also, I don’t think there is a rule that “teach” has to always be one way for the whole letter....

@Ryan_Adair_A My comments were very much focused on 1Ti 2:12 and it’s context. Is there anywhere where someone is not permitted to teach truth to someone? Also, I don’t think there is a rule that “tea

1Ti 2:12 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-06-11

@cgore @smashbaals A verse taken out of context is a pretext for a proof text. First, the grammar is indicating that this is not about all women (as in the prior verse) but 'a woman'... and from v14, 'the woman' is an anaphoric reference showing it ...

@cgore @smashbaals A verse taken out of context is a pretext for a proof text. First, the grammar is indicating that this is not about all women (as in the prior verse) but 'a woman'... and from v14,

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-05-04

The grammar and context suggest that Paul is not banning all women from teaching

The grammar and context suggest that Paul is not banning all women from teaching or leading men in every context, but is instead dealing with a specific woman teaching heresy, a situation reminiscent

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-02-24

@ronhenzel @WonderingBashir @HwsEleutheroi This is not a popularity contest. If none of the commentaries identify the option that Eve is symbolic of a specific woman teaching false doctrine and "the woman" of v14, the subject of "but she will be save...

@ronhenzel @WonderingBashir @HwsEleutheroi This is not a popularity contest. If none of the commentaries identify the option that Eve is symbolic of a specific woman teaching false doctrine and "the w

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-02-24

@ronhenzel @WonderingBashir @HwsEleutheroi You have the anaphoric use of “the woman” and the anaphoric use of “she”. So you have no problem with the anaphoric showing up here. But you refuse to acknowledge one specific anaphoric use as it means Pau...

@ronhenzel @WonderingBashir @HwsEleutheroi You have the anaphoric use of “the woman” and the anaphoric use of “she”. So you have no problem with the anaphoric showing up here. But you refuse to ackn

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-02-23

@ronhenzel @WonderingBashir @HwsEleutheroi A ludicrous ignorance of grammar and semantics? Seriously? Both options are possible but then you have she as anaphoric pointing back to v11-12 and not the nearest which is the woman. You are trying so hard...

@ronhenzel @WonderingBashir @HwsEleutheroi A ludicrous ignorance of grammar and semantics? Seriously? Both options are possible but then you have she as anaphoric pointing back to v11-12 and not the n

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-02-23

@ronhenzel @WonderingBashir @HwsEleutheroi Ron, I think this is just confusing. The best way to make everything fit together is to understand a specific woman teaching heresy and Paul linking the situation between this woman and her husband to the f...

@ronhenzel @WonderingBashir @HwsEleutheroi Ron, I think this is just confusing. The best way to make everything fit together is to understand a specific woman teaching heresy and Paul linking the sit

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-02-23

@ronhenzel @WonderingBashir @HwsEleutheroi Again, you are missing the argument—a woman from 11-12 could be generic or specific and which it is depends on the context. It is because of the article in v14 that we know 11-12 refers to a specific woman. ...

@ronhenzel @WonderingBashir @HwsEleutheroi Again, you are missing the argument—a woman from 11-12 could be generic or specific and which it is depends on the context. It is because of the article in v

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-02-23

@ronhenzel @WonderingBashir @HwsEleutheroi I agree with your comment that the anaphoric reference is semantic and in this case could refer to either Eve in v13 or ‘a woman’ in v11-12 depending on the context. In this case, Paul is tying the specific...

@ronhenzel @WonderingBashir @HwsEleutheroi I agree with your comment that the anaphoric reference is semantic and in this case could refer to either Eve in v13 or ‘a woman’ in v11-12 depending on the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-02-19

@ronhenzel @WonderingBashir @HwsEleutheroi Except if Paul wanted to refer to a specific woman from Ephesus Im vv11-12 how else might he do it? In making a contrast between the plural to the singular, Paul is moving from general to narrow which the de...

@ronhenzel @WonderingBashir @HwsEleutheroi Except if Paul wanted to refer to a specific woman from Ephesus Im vv11-12 how else might he do it? In making a contrast between the plural to the singular,

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-02-03

@Ben338911188549 @PsalmWarfare @smashbaals This has to do with a specific woman

@Ben338911188549 @PsalmWarfare @smashbaals This has to do with a specific woman teaching heretical false doctrine. Paul's clear stated purpose is to stop false teaching, not to stop anyone from teachi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-01-24

@ImRevAlan @BornAgainMissy Paul’s grammar is “a woman…the woman” showing that th

@ImRevAlan @BornAgainMissy Paul’s grammar is “a woman…the woman” showing that there’s a specific woman intended. Further, where is this ultimatum you are referring to?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-01-04

@flauridian Yes, a woman can refer to women generally but the context is how we decide whether there’s a specific woman or women in general. In this case, I’m arguing the context informs us there is a specific unnamed woman Paul has in mind. See if t...

@flauridian Yes, a woman can refer to women generally but the context is how we decide whether there’s a specific woman or women in general. In this case, I’m arguing the context informs us there is a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-03

In 1Ti 2:11-15, Paul is dealing with a specific woman who is teaching false doct

In 1Ti 2:11-15, Paul is dealing with a specific woman who is teaching false doctrine who's husband⎯likely an elder and who is not deceived⎯remains silent. Sound familiar? It's just like the account of

1Ti 2:11-15 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-08-01

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii ...not giving general instructions to a church⎯tho

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii ...not giving general instructions to a church⎯though we absolutely can learn from his instructions to Timothy. I think you should not discount the specific woman view to

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-31

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Further, as I have demonstrated, there is another

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Further, as I have demonstrated, there is another plausible explanation for 1Ti 2:12 that refers to a specific woman and explains why Paul may have chosen such a strange

1Ti 2:12 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-09

@MargMowczko @KaeleyT But that use by Paul is genius *because* of the ties to Ev

@MargMowczko @KaeleyT But that use by Paul is genius *because* of the ties to Eve—it links the specific woman in Ephesus prototypically with Eve in a lightly veiled manner. We need only to consider wh

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-09

@MargMowczko @KaeleyT Thanks for the clarity and I know you didn’t say that, yet

@MargMowczko @KaeleyT Thanks for the clarity and I know you didn’t say that, yet the reason why we can be certain it is a specific woman is because of the use of the article in v14. It’s really a geni

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-07

@avyargo @neecygrace @MikeWingerii How would Paul identify a specific woman without naming her? He literally said "a woman" and then followed that with "the woman" showing that it cannot be a generic woman. Imagine if you were deceived and no one ha...

@avyargo @neecygrace @MikeWingerii How would Paul identify a specific woman without naming her? He literally said "a woman" and then followed that with "the woman" showing that it cannot be a generic

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-04

@avyargo @TarienCole @Calvinator8000 @MikeWingerii “I do not permit a woman…” could be referring to women generically or a specific woman in that church. How you determine which is by the context. I contend that his use of the definite article in v14...

@avyargo @TarienCole @Calvinator8000 @MikeWingerii “I do not permit a woman…” could be referring to women generically or a specific woman in that church. How you determine which is by the context. I c

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@jhrjamharrea @Rattle_Resists @michael_ronning Right, so we won't respond or address my actual exposition, we have to resort to drawing pictures? - I have evidence of a specific woman in the anaphoric use of the article in v14 which cannot apply to E...

@jhrjamharrea @Rattle_Resists @michael_ronning Right, so we won't respond or address my actual exposition, we have to resort to drawing pictures? - I have evidence of a specific woman in the anaphoric

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-11

@ronhenzel @Robert_S_Morley @Grump_Old_Man @smashbaals Is Paul not allowed to convey instructions personally to Timothy in this letter addressed to him only about a specific woman whom Paul doesn’t want to name as she is deceived and hasn’t yet been ...

@ronhenzel @Robert_S_Morley @Grump_Old_Man @smashbaals Is Paul not allowed to convey instructions personally to Timothy in this letter addressed to him only about a specific woman whom Paul doesn’t wa

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@EkIesou @smashbaals It is correct to say that ‘a woman’ can either refer to a specific woman/wife or a generic woman/wife. The way we determine which it is is by the context. Paul’s reference to Adam and Eve as a prototypical couple and the “She…the...

@EkIesou @smashbaals It is correct to say that ‘a woman’ can either refer to a specific woman/wife or a generic woman/wife. The way we determine which it is is by the context. Paul’s reference to Adam

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-09

@revjeffvox @JollyStine @ScottCross_8 @Sean_M_Dennis @DrSampler @andreacavie @RevChrisDavis This is a clear misapplication of the context of Paul’s letter. He is not teaching that all women are not to teach men, but that a specific woman—who is teach...

@revjeffvox @JollyStine @ScottCross_8 @Sean_M_Dennis @DrSampler @andreacavie @RevChrisDavis This is a clear misapplication of the context of Paul’s letter. He is not teaching that all women are not to

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@JollyStine @PrinceDean78489 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @MargMowczko Thanks for sharing, Christine. You have been a huge help replying to challenges as I can’t keep up. Unfortunately, that 1Ti 2:11-12 is about a specific woman appears to be the ext...

@JollyStine @PrinceDean78489 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @MargMowczko Thanks for sharing, Christine. You have been a huge help replying to challenges as I can’t keep up. Unfortunately, that 1Ti 2:11-

1Ti 2:11-12 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-19

@JoeAdrian256 I stand by the scriptures too. No need to twist anything. I love Paul’s writings…but it’s important to know what he actually means. 1Ti 2 doesn’t forbid women from teaching or pastoral roles. It is referring to “a woman” which v14 spec...

@JoeAdrian256 I stand by the scriptures too. No need to twist anything. I love Paul’s writings…but it’s important to know what he actually means. 1Ti 2 doesn’t forbid women from teaching or pastoral

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-19

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii If you see the anaphoric use of the article in v14 point to gyne in vs11-12 then this tells us Paul means a specific woman, especially in context to 1Ti 1:2. Yes, Eve does “dou...

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii If you see the anaphoric use of the article in v14 point to gyne in vs11-12 then this tells us Paul means a specific woman, es

1Ti 1:2 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-18

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel Paul is telling Timothy he is not allowing what this specific woman is doing. Paul is not asking Timothy to interfere. Paul is making the decision. Timothy is to give the message to the woman. In that way he is steppin...

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel Paul is telling Timothy he is not allowing what this specific woman is doing. Paul is not asking Timothy to interfere. Paul is making the decision. Timothy is to give t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-18

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel However, this is not “head speech”, it is instruction-to-Timothy speech which is the one who is commissioned to stop the false teaching and the false teachers at Ephesus. Would you at least grant that I have a grammat...

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel However, this is not “head speech”, it is instruction-to-Timothy speech which is the one who is commissioned to stop the false teaching and the false teachers at Ephesu

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-18

@EkIesou @ronhenzel I simply noted that Paul uses the article in v14 anaphorically to clarify that “a woman” in vs11-12 is a specific woman. He also uses the article as the subject of “will be saved” in v15. On the contrary, your explanation doesn’t...

@EkIesou @ronhenzel I simply noted that Paul uses the article in v14 anaphorically to clarify that “a woman” in vs11-12 is a specific woman. He also uses the article as the subject of “will be saved”

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-18

@ronhenzel Your translation of authentein as “having authority” begs the question why Paul used an extremely rare word to convey this idea. This needs an explanation. You also missed that Paul is speaking about a specific woman because of the articl...

@ronhenzel Your translation of authentein as “having authority” begs the question why Paul used an extremely rare word to convey this idea. This needs an explanation. You also missed that Paul is spe

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