Atheists Can Be Gullible Too

Introduction: surprise livestream responding to a video by Jim Majors, CEO of Atheist Republic, to help atheists and skeptics who may be receiving bad information

Mike explains he was prompted by a Twitter tip to respond to a specific atheist leader's claims about Christianity

Jim Majors, CEO of Atheist Republic (2.2M Facebook followers), is promoting a forthcoming book critiquing Christianity called 'Holy Proofreading: Correcting Christianity'

Mike introduces Jim's credentials and the context of the interview

Jim issued a fact-check challenge to his audience; Mike takes up that challenge, emphasizing that Jim is sincere but simply misinformed — not deliberately lying

Mike establishes the spirit of the response before diving into specifics

Jim's claim about Gospel dating: Mark was written 40 years after Jesus at the earliest, and John was written 100+ years after Mark — implying John is 170 AD or later

First specific claim Mike refutes

Refutation of Jim's Gospel dating: scholars date Mark to the 50s–70s AD, and John to the 60s or 90s AD — not 170 AD; P52 papyrus (100–150 AD) proves John predates Jim's claim by decades

Mike systematically dismantles the 170 AD date for John

Even Bart Ehrman — a non-Christian scholar whose goal is to undermine Christianity — dates John to 90–95 AD, not 170 AD

Mike offers a source skeptics can't dismiss as biased

Atheists can be gullible too: skeptics sometimes have a low bar for accepting anti-Christian claims, just as Christians can have a low bar for confirming their own beliefs

Key thematic statement of the video

Jim's claim about Herod: Herod the Great wouldn't have cared about killing infant Jesus because life expectancy was ~35 years and he was already old and near death

Second major claim Mike refutes — the plausibility of the Massacre of the Innocents

Historical evidence that Herod the Great was extremely paranoid and murderous — he killed three of his own sons and executed hundreds on suspicion alone, making the Massacre of the Innocents entirely consistent with his character

Mike builds a positive case that Herod killing children in Bethlehem is historically plausible

Jim's claim about Koine Greek: the New Testament was written in a prestige dialect used only by wealthy, educated elites — not a common language

Third major claim Mike refutes

Refutation: Koine Greek is literally the 'common language' — the word koine means 'common' — it was a simplified lingua franca spread through Alexander the Great's empire, the exact opposite of an elite dialect

Mike corrects the Koine Greek claim with a university linguistics source

Jim's claim about the longer ending of Mark: the final verses of Mark 16 were added in the 13th century by a Jewish council to harmonize it with other Gospels

Fourth major claim Mike refutes — the textual history of Mark's ending

Refutation: early manuscripts from well before the 13th century already contain the longer ending of Mark; the addition was likely scribal, not conciliar — probably constructed from Luke, Acts, and Matthew to give public readings a more complete feel

Mike explains the actual textual history of Mark's longer ending

Jim's claim about Christmas trees: first-century Romans practiced Christmas trees, first-century Christians adopted it, and the New Testament contains a specific passage telling them to stop — but they ignored it

Fifth major claim Mike refutes — biblical origin of Christmas trees

Refutation: the only text Jim could be referring to is Jeremiah 10, written 600 years before Jesus — it describes carving a tree into an idol, not decorating a Christmas tree, and has nothing to do with New Testament Christianity or Roman practices

Mike carefully exegetes Jeremiah 10:1–5 to show what the passage actually means

Jim's claims about crucifixion: we have only one ancient source for Roman crucifixion practices; the cross was a straight pole (stauros = stake), not a T-shape; and Romans never removed crucifixion victims — they left them to be devoured by scavengers, making burial and an empty tomb impossible

Sixth and final major claim Mike refutes

Refutation of 'only one source': Martin Hengel's scholarly work compiles numerous ancient historical sources on crucifixion — the claim of a single source is false

Mike counters the 'only one source' claim

The etymological fallacy: deriving a word's current meaning from its ancient root is a logical error — stauros may have once meant 'stake' but that doesn't mean it meant that in first-century usage

Mike addresses Jim's stauros/stake argument

Refutation of 'Romans never removed crucifixion victims': Josephus explicitly records that in Jerusalem, Jews were permitted by Romans to take down crucified bodies and bury them before sunset — directly supporting the Gospel burial account

Mike counters the 'no burial possible' claim with Josephus

Jim's own closing statement admits his audience should not simply believe him but verify for themselves — Mike takes this as evidence of Jim's sincerity, not dishonesty, and uses it to encourage skeptics to investigate Christian claims more seriously

Mike wraps up the refutation portion

Q&A: Mike has multiple debate offers on the table and is interested in more structured debates, including with Catholic apologists like Tim Staples or Trent Horn, but debate requires far more preparation than regular content

Audience Q&A begins; question from 'Faith Wisdom'

Q&A: How do you witness to nominal or hypocritical Christians who are not bearing fruit? Mike notes that those who don't love the Lord are ironically less worried about their spiritual state than genuine believers

Question from Nick Kinsman

Q&A: Mike has not yet settled his position on pre-trib, mid-trib, or post-trib rapture — he was raised in Calvary Chapel's strong pre-trib culture but feels his ability to defend pre-trib is thin and wants to do thorough homework before teaching publicly on it

Question from Bradley Wilcox about tribulation timing

Q&A: Having favorites is not the same as favoritism — favoritism is the sinful distortion of justice based on preference, not the innocent preference itself

Question from Christian Harold Harrison about favorites and favoritism in sports

Q&A: The Massacre of the Innocents appears in Matthew but not Luke because Luke telescopes events and omits details that don't serve his narrative aims — absence from one Gospel does not imply it didn't happen

Question from Cam Spire about why the Massacre of the Innocents is not in Luke

Recommendation: Mike has a three-video playlist on translations and complex textual issues related to the Bible, covering topics like the longer ending of Mark and textual variants

Answer to 'The Real Effects' about where to find more on Mark and Scripture authority

Q&A: Genesis 6:5 — 'every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually' — describes mankind as thoroughly corrupted, whether read hyperboliclaly (extreme wickedness) or literally (total moral collapse)

Question from Ricky Pickering

Q&A: Diversity in Christianity is not the same as division — unity is a calling, but believers can disagree on secondary issues while remaining unified in primary ones through love

Question from Fred Baek about how to reconcile Christian diversity with the biblical call for unity

Closing challenge to skeptics: be critical of your own criticisms — if you laugh at Christians, make sure you have good reason to; you may have adopted the dogma of your own worldview uncritically

Mike's closing remarks to both Christian and skeptic viewers