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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-05

As @MikeWingerii stated in his video series, how we see Genesis 2-3 is 99% of the debate! Mike sees Paul’s deliberate connection of the creation order with deception, but why isn’t he willing to entertain the idea that Adam wasn’t deceived because o...

As @MikeWingerii stated in his video series, how we see Genesis 2-3 is 99% of the debate! Mike sees Paul’s deliberate connection of the creation order with deception, but why isn’t he willing to ente

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-04

@smashbaals Curious…but my reading of Genesis 2:24 sounds counter cultural to the complementarian view: "For this reason **a man shall leave** his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh." (Gen 2:24) The ma...

@smashbaals Curious…but my reading of Genesis 2:24 sounds counter cultural to the complementarian view: "For this reason **a man shall leave** his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; an

Genesis 2:24 Gen 2:24 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-02

@DelaKram75 @LipchakH I don’t believe it was because Eve was deceived first, but Eve was deceived because she was created last (according to 1 Tim 2:13-14). Reading Genesis 2 closely, we see that Adam saw God create animals, garden plants and trees ...

@DelaKram75 @LipchakH I don’t believe it was because Eve was deceived first, but Eve was deceived because she was created last (according to 1 Tim 2:13-14). Reading Genesis 2 closely, we see that Ada

1 Tim 2:13-14 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-24

@9xix113 @JeremiahGofung Deception is tied to the timeline of creation. If you consider Genesis 2 carefully, you will find that God creates some animals in front of Adam and plants and causes to grow plants so that Adam has experience of God creatin...

@9xix113 @JeremiahGofung Deception is tied to the timeline of creation. If you consider Genesis 2 carefully, you will find that God creates some animals in front of Adam and plants and causes to grow

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-30

For a much more thorough explanation of 1 Tim 2:11-15 along with reference mater

For a much more thorough explanation of 1 Tim 2:11-15 along with reference material related to Genesis 2 and the creation order, see the following thread. https://t.co/lwAJ5mgNRm

1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-30

RT @ryanschatz: @smashbaals While Adam is explicitly tasked with tilling the gro

RT @ryanschatz: @smashbaals While Adam is explicitly tasked with tilling the ground and taking care of the Garden of Eden in Genesis 2:15,…

Genesis 2:15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-30

@smashbaals While Adam is explicitly tasked with tilling the ground and taking care of the Garden of Eden in Genesis 2:15, Eve is created as a "helper" for Adam. The term "helper" is often interpreted to mean that Eve shared in Adam's responsibilitie...

@smashbaals While Adam is explicitly tasked with tilling the ground and taking care of the Garden of Eden in Genesis 2:15, Eve is created as a "helper" for Adam. The term "helper" is often interpreted

Genesis 2:15 Genesis 1:28 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-02

@aflawedmanofGod @M_Jensen23 @ortrails @goteamcarr Genesis 2 is pretty clear that the man was made before the woman with a sufficient span of time to observe God in the act of creating both in relation to the plants and garden as well as likely the f...

@aflawedmanofGod @M_Jensen23 @ortrails @goteamcarr Genesis 2 is pretty clear that the man was made before the woman with a sufficient span of time to observe God in the act of creating both in relatio

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-11

@JohnMoo26668690 The only reason given for why Eve was deceived was because Adam was created first. By examining Genesis 2, we can understand that God was creating animals in front of Adam so Adam has experience with God that Eve as the last one cre...

@JohnMoo26668690 The only reason given for why Eve was deceived was because Adam was created first. By examining Genesis 2, we can understand that God was creating animals in front of Adam so Adam ha

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@SWoodl18571 @MikeWingerii If you want a quick explanation of how I interpret Ge

@SWoodl18571 @MikeWingerii If you want a quick explanation of how I interpret Genesis 2 which Mike says implies Adam’s leadership over Eve as part of the original creation intent of God, see this post

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-10

@RickWarren If you want to convince complementarians, you have to exegete 1 Cor

@RickWarren If you want to convince complementarians, you have to exegete 1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 Cor 11:1-16, 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Tim 3:1-13, Titus 1:5-16, Genesis 2-3 and it has to be consistent with not inv

1 Cor 11:1-16 1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary debate point

This is part two of the response to an article by Matt Slick of CARM called “Genesis 2, Adam and Eve, and Authority” found here

[general] From: Special Authority To Adam

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Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 2:11-15

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Timothy 2:11-15 specific woman,deception,authenteo,grammar,perfect tense,future tense,anaphoric,egalitarian,ephesus,teknogonia,singular plural,historical perfect,verbal aspect,paul as pattern
Theology verse entry

1 Peter 3:1-9

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Peter 3:1-9 submission,wives,husbands,Sarah,mutual-honor,egalitarian,context,obedience,intimidation
Theology verse entry

Genesis 21:9-12

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Genesis 21:9-12 Sarah,Abraham,authority,obedience,women-leadership,egalitarian
Theology verse entry

Ephesians 5:18-33

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Ephesians 5:18-33 mutual submission,kephale,source,marriage,kenosis,Spirit-filled,husbands love,wives submit,egalitarian,hupotasso,allelon,household code,head-body metaphor,agapao,self-sacrifice,great mystery,Christ and church,one flesh
Theology verse entry

Genesis 1:26-28

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Genesis 1:26-28 creation,dominion,co-equal,image of God,male and female,egalitarian,gender roles,imago dei,equality
Theology verse entry

Genesis 2:15-20

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Genesis 2:15-20 garden,guard,ezer,helper,creation order,egalitarian,woman,ezer kenegdo,naming animals,no counterpart,strength
Theology verse entry

1 Corinthians 11:10-16

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Corinthians 11:10-16 exousia,woman authority,angels,interdependence,mutual dependence,egalitarian,hair,covering,creation order,corrective,in the Lord
Theology verse entry

1 Corinthians 11:2-9

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Corinthians 11:2-9 kephale,head covering,source,origin,authority,man woman,glory,image,aner gyne,egalitarian,Trinity,hierarchy,husband,wife,creation
Theology verse entry

Genesis 2:21-23

Sections: debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Genesis 2:21-23 rib,tsela,side,woman from man,equality,egalitarian,creation
Theology verse entry

Genesis 5:2

Sections: debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Genesis 5:2 Adam,named them,male and female,image,humanity,egalitarian
Theology verse entry

Genesis 2:7

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Genesis 2:7 dust,adam,formation,origin,nephesh
Theology verse entry

Genesis 2:24

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Genesis 2:24 one flesh,marriage,leaving,cleaving,union
Theology verse entry

Genesis 3:1-7

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Genesis 3:1-7 temptation,fall,serpent,deception,sin,silence of adam
Theology verse entry

Romans 9:16

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Romans 9:16 soteriology,predestination,election,free will,Calvinism,provisionism,God's mercy
Theology verse entry

Colossians 1:15-18

Sections: cross_references, exegesis, greek_analysis

Colossians 1:15-18 kephale,head,source,origin,creator,firstborn,preeminence,christology,egalitarian
Theology verse entry

Colossians 2:16-19

Sections: cross_references, exegesis, greek_analysis

Colossians 2:16-19 kephale,head,source,nourishment,body,growth,heresy,egalitarian
Theology verse entry

Genesis 2:10

Sections: cross_references, exegesis

Genesis 2:10 rosh,headwater,source,rivers,Eden,kephale background,egalitarian
Theology verse entry

Malachi 1:2-3

Sections: exegesis

Malachi 1:2-3 Esau,Jacob,election,not loved,Messianic lineage,soteriology,Calvinism,provisionism
Theology greek term

ἔζερ (ezer)

helper, strong ally, rescuer

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Theology greek term

κεφαλή (kephalē)

head; source/origin; preeminent one

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Theology greek term

וַיִּקְטֹל (wayyiqtol)

consecutive/sequential narrative verb form (Hebrew)

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Theology greek term

צֵלָע (tsela)

side, rib, architectural side-chamber

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Theology greek term

שָׁמַר (shamar)

to guard, to keep, to watch, to protect

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Theology greek term

אִשָּׁה (isha)

woman, wife; taken from man (ish); the female human being

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Theology greek term

ἀρχή (archē)

beginning, origin, source; rule, authority, first cause

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Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

The general complementarian approach sees Genesis 2 showing husband's leadership role, confirmed in Genesis 3; the egalitarian approach says authority only appears in Genesis 3 as part of the curse.

Overview of the two interpretive frameworks for Genesis 2-3

male authority Gen 2 Gen 3
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Three-section outline: Genesis 1 (foundational, little disagreement), Genesis 2 (longest section, most debated), and Genesis 3 (the fall and the curse).

Video structure overview

Gen 2 Gen 3 Gen 1
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Genesis 1 focuses on humanity's relationship to creation; Genesis 2 focuses on the relationship between man and woman, especially husband and wife.

Transition from Genesis 1 to Genesis 2

Gen 2 Gen 1 dominion vs. marital roles
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Reading of Genesis 2:7-25 with key observations: Adam made first, given commands alone, names animals alone, Eve made from Adam's rib.

Genesis 2 reading and initial observations

creation order Gen 2:7-25 adam naming animals
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Philip Payne's egalitarian argument: 'bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh' emphasizes shared essence and kinship, never subordination.

Egalitarian interpretation of Genesis 2:23

Philip Payne Man and Woman, One in Christ Gen 2:23
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Two types of egalitarian arguments for Genesis 2: negative case (refuting complementarian points) or positive case (Genesis 2 rules out authority differences).

Framework for evaluating egalitarian arguments

Gen 2 negative vs. positive case egalitarian hermeneutics
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Payne's second argument: the man (not the woman) leaves father and mother, which implies equality rather than male authority.

Egalitarian argument from Genesis 2:24

Philip Payne Man and Woman, One in Christ Gen 2:24
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

The real point of 'leaving father and mother' is that the marriage relationship takes priority over the parental relationship.

Mike's interpretation of Genesis 2:24

Gen 2:24 marriage priority family unit
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Introduction to Tom Schreiner's six reasons from Genesis 2 for Adam having a leadership role, from 'Two Views on Women in Ministry.'

Transition to complementarian case from Genesis 2

Tom Schreiner Two Views on Women in Ministry Gen 2
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Mike's refutation of Trible: 'adam' is never used as 'earth creature' in Hebrew; in Genesis 2 it always refers to a male; and Genesis 2:23 ('ish') proves Adam was already male.

Refuting Trible's sexually undifferentiated adam theory

adam Phyllis Trible Gen 2:22-23
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Primogeniture in Hebrew culture: the firstborn had greater authority; older people had more leadership -- this cultural context is key to reading Genesis 2.

Cultural background for Schreiner's creation order argument

creation order Gen 2 primogeniture
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Linda Belleville's argument: Genesis 2 speaks of order and source, not authority -- Mike's rebuttal: these aren't mutually exclusive; primogeniture is precisely about order implying authority.

Egalitarian counter-argument from Belleville

Linda Belleville Gen 2 order and source
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Conclusion on primogeniture: early readers of Genesis would very likely have understood Adam as having higher authority due to being made first; Genesis 2 is the rule, not the exception.

Mike's tentative conclusion on creation order

Gen 2 primogeniture original audience
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