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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-15

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC Yes, authority needs to be given. We need to deal with the text and not add things in that are not there when authority is given in this very context to both Adam and Eve. God gave dominion to humans as an imperative in Gen ...

@DST_QA @sympatheticNPC Yes, authority needs to be given. We need to deal with the text and not add things in that are not there when authority is given in this very context to both Adam and Eve. Go

Gen 1:28 Gen 3:16 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-29

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Adam and Eve were married. Can Paul not use them as prototypes to refer to an unnamed couple which just happens to be repeating a similar deception type of fall? Would Adam have eat...

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Adam and Eve were married. Can Paul not use them as prototypes to refer to an unnamed couple which just happens to be repeating a si

question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii The reason I don't prefer "domineer" or "master" is because of how Paul uses the example of Adam and Eve and I don't think this was what was going on in the garden of Eden. I think he's tying the f...

@SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii The reason I don't prefer "domineer" or "master" is because of how Paul uses the example of Adam and Eve and I don't think this was what was going o

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-24

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC What we see is: >> all people (vv1-7) >> all males (v8) >> all females (vv9-10) >> a woman (v11) >> a woman (wife), a man (husband) (v12) >> Ada...

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC What we see is: >> all people (vv1-7) >> all males (v8) >> all females (vv9-10) >> a woman (v11) >> a woman (wife

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-22

@JohnMoo26668690 The appeal to creation is because Adam and Eve are a template o

@JohnMoo26668690 The appeal to creation is because Adam and Eve are a template of a situation in Ephesus where a woman who is deceived and outside of orthodoxy and is teaching false doctrine where her

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-20

Here’s a short summary of how I think an egalitarian interpretation makes the mo

Here’s a short summary of how I think an egalitarian interpretation makes the most sense of the context, grammar and back reference to Adam and Eve. At least it’s not about restricting all women from

commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-20

@ZoneChaos @WhyRWeHere99 No need to disagree with Paul. Just need to understand

@ZoneChaos @WhyRWeHere99 No need to disagree with Paul. Just need to understand what he meant by carefully considering the context, grammar and his back reference to Adam and Eve. https://t.co/rBGS8F

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-20

@AdamPage85 @brian_lester88 @tomcatpdx5000 You are right that the order of creation is significant, but in this case Paul is using Adam and Eve as a template for a couple in Ephesus where the deceived wife is teaching false doctrine and the husband w...

@AdamPage85 @brian_lester88 @tomcatpdx5000 You are right that the order of creation is significant, but in this case Paul is using Adam and Eve as a template for a couple in Ephesus where the deceived

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-20

@pearlythingz If you want to know what’s up with Adam and Eve in the garden, sta

@pearlythingz If you want to know what’s up with Adam and Eve in the garden, start with Paul. https://t.co/UnZDiv7U35

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-20

@MariusM38610501 @MikeWingerii Only read the summary but the argument that 1 Tim 2:15 has to do with Artemis of the Ephesians seems foreign to this text and doesn’t deal with what Paul says in the context. His reference to Adam and Eve ought to be w...

@MariusM38610501 @MikeWingerii Only read the summary but the argument that 1 Tim 2:15 has to do with Artemis of the Ephesians seems foreign to this text and doesn’t deal with what Paul says in the con

1 Tim 2:15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-19

@PrussianSouth @smashbaals Two things: 1. Yes, if one burns with passion then it’s better to get married (1 Cor 7:9). 2. God commanded Adam and Eve to fill the earth and multiply. However, it is clear from Jesus’ and Paul’s example that marriage i...

@PrussianSouth @smashbaals Two things: 1. Yes, if one burns with passion then it’s better to get married (1 Cor 7:9). 2. God commanded Adam and Eve to fill the earth and multiply. However, it is cl

1 Cor 7:9 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-06

@ArmoryOC @Brian_Sauve “A woman” not “all women.” Paul was dealing with a specific situation of a deceived woman who was ignorant but who was no longer in the faith. She was teaching heresy and her husband who wasn’t deceived was not speaking up. ...

@ArmoryOC @Brian_Sauve “A woman” not “all women.” Paul was dealing with a specific situation of a deceived woman who was ignorant but who was no longer in the faith. She was teaching heresy and her

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-03

@elizabethprata @Lily_Warrior @pastorpilgrim @aimeebyrdPYW @JJumping @ajjumping The reference to creation was to show that Adam and Eve were prototypes of this couple in Ephesus. The woman is deceived and ignorant and teaching false doctrine, but th...

@elizabethprata @Lily_Warrior @pastorpilgrim @aimeebyrdPYW @JJumping @ajjumping The reference to creation was to show that Adam and Eve were prototypes of this couple in Ephesus. The woman is deceive

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-28

@creationnews Yes, though Paul is likely referring to Gen 3:15 since his other r

@creationnews Yes, though Paul is likely referring to Gen 3:15 since his other references are to Adam and Eve. https://t.co/rBGS8Fof6Y

Gen 3:15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-24

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals I agree Paul is saying that a woman, a specific deceived woman, is not to “authentein” over a man, her husband. Paul uses Adam and Eve as prototypes of this couple in Ephesus. The husband ...

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals I agree Paul is saying that a woman, a specific deceived woman, is not to “authentein” over a man, her husband. Paul uses Adam and Eve as p

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-22

@blackmamba_btc @AEQEA @nakedpastor The reason the husband is said to be the kehpale of the wife is because of Adam and Eve ⎯ Eve was created from Adam as her source. Adam was created first. But authority doesn’t come from being created first or el...

@blackmamba_btc @AEQEA @nakedpastor The reason the husband is said to be the kehpale of the wife is because of Adam and Eve ⎯ Eve was created from Adam as her source. Adam was created first. But aut

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-01

@ReclaimingRest I go into the details on the back reference to Adam and Eve that

@ReclaimingRest I go into the details on the back reference to Adam and Eve that Paul makes in 1 Timothy. You may find it helpful evidence confirming your view. https://t.co/GWXXBQrZnv

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-25

@DanielSmithAP2 @normal_catholic @AlexanderPayton No, I believe this is going back to Eve, and the “seed of the woman” as Paul was using the reference to Adam and Eve as a prototype of a situation with a deceived woman who is teaching and a husband w...

@DanielSmithAP2 @normal_catholic @AlexanderPayton No, I believe this is going back to Eve, and the “seed of the woman” as Paul was using the reference to Adam and Eve as a prototype of a situation wit

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-08

@uncledando @ChristChurchTe1 @TomBuck “No laws were given to Adam and Eve” - Asi

@uncledando @ChristChurchTe1 @TomBuck “No laws were given to Adam and Eve” - Aside from not eating fruit without seed? Ok I can agree with that. Not sure what else you are referring to. Sorry to sp

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-06

@rightresponsem @ChrisHohnholz Paul links the order of first creation with deception. Males can clearly be deceived too, so this isn't a comment about gender differences but relates to the specific creation order of Adam and Eve. Because Adam was c...

@rightresponsem @ChrisHohnholz Paul links the order of first creation with deception. Males can clearly be deceived too, so this isn't a comment about gender differences but relates to the specific c

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@HammadAcc2 @AmyMek @jihadwatchRS Some of these are quite difficult passages. Here's an explanation for 1 Tim 2:11-15 that makes sense of this passage, the grammar, the nature of the letter and its context (stopping false teaching), the back referen...

@HammadAcc2 @AmyMek @jihadwatchRS Some of these are quite difficult passages. Here's an explanation for 1 Tim 2:11-15 that makes sense of this passage, the grammar, the nature of the letter and its c

in 2:15 1 Tim 2:11-15 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@Shshshahawn @pearlythingz You need to read this passage in context and make sen

@Shshshahawn @pearlythingz You need to read this passage in context and make sense of the grammar, the personal details Paul shares with Timothy, the reference to Adam and Eve and "she (singular) will

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-26

@Snuggernaut1 @chadlyrose @sovereignbrah You need to read this passage in context and make sense of the grammar. Paul's difficult grammar is because of what he tells Timothy in the first chapter. And the reference to Adam and Eve is not about hiera...

@Snuggernaut1 @chadlyrose @sovereignbrah You need to read this passage in context and make sense of the grammar. Paul's difficult grammar is because of what he tells Timothy in the first chapter. An

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-19

@MikeWingerii @graceforprize @RickWarren You hold to the view that 'the childbea

@MikeWingerii @graceforprize @RickWarren You hold to the view that 'the childbearing' in 1 Tim2:15 in context of the back reference to Adam and Eve is the seed of the woman in Gen3:15 or that this is

Gen3:15 1 Tim2:15 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-17

@chimpchompchamp @MikeWingerii @kitchenSvenk30 But these passages are highly debated for good reasons. There is no statement "an elder must not be a woman." The grammar and wording and back ref to Adam and Eve, etc. and context are not properly tak...

@chimpchompchamp @MikeWingerii @kitchenSvenk30 But these passages are highly debated for good reasons. There is no statement "an elder must not be a woman." The grammar and wording and back ref to A

1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-16

@m_a_nilles @southernpresby @5pointsMckinley @AnnaGraceWood Adam and Eve were of

@m_a_nilles @southernpresby @5pointsMckinley @AnnaGraceWood Adam and Eve were of the same flesh. How does that communicate hierarchy? Animals were made before Adam but don't rule over the man, so be

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-15

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer Adam and Eve are a prototype of this

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer Adam and Eve are a prototype of this couple in Ephesus. Why doesn’t Paul name and mark the woman teaching error? Because she ignorant and deceived (like Pa

1 Ti 1:13 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-15

@DanielFarey @MattSwiftyPerry 2/ In this case, there was an ignorant woman teaching 'a woman' whose husband, just like Adam, knew better but was silent. The example of Adam and Eve illustrates how because of Adam's first creation, he had experience ...

@DanielFarey @MattSwiftyPerry 2/ In this case, there was an ignorant woman teaching 'a woman' whose husband, just like Adam, knew better but was silent. The example of Adam and Eve illustrates how be

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-11

@LauralovsJesus @cpa_dallas @HwsEleutheroi The reason is given as 1/ Adam was formed first and 2/ Adam was not deceived but Eve was (though he was beside her). So the order and deception are related. This couple in Ephesus had a similar situation, ...

@LauralovsJesus @cpa_dallas @HwsEleutheroi The reason is given as 1/ Adam was formed first and 2/ Adam was not deceived but Eve was (though he was beside her). So the order and deception are related.

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Scripture Commentary debate point

This is part two of the response to an article by Matt Slick of CARM called “Genesis 2, Adam and Eve, and Authority” found here

[general] From: Special Authority To Adam

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Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 2:11-15

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Timothy 2:11-15 specific woman,deception,authenteo,grammar,perfect tense,future tense,anaphoric,egalitarian,ephesus,teknogonia,singular plural,historical perfect,verbal aspect,paul as pattern
Theology verse entry

Genesis 1:26-28

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Genesis 1:26-28 creation,dominion,co-equal,image of God,male and female,egalitarian,gender roles,imago dei,equality
Theology verse entry

Genesis 3:14-19

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Genesis 3:14-19 fall,curse,consequences,serpent,Eve,Adam,pain,thorns,death,not prescriptive,protoevangelium,seed of the woman,Messiah,teknogonia,desire,rule,teshuqah,mashal,egalitarian,complementarian,patriarchy
Theology verse entry

1 Corinthians 14:33-37

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Corinthians 14:33-37 interpolation,textual criticism,silence,quotation,Western text,women speaking,women silent,Corinthian quotation,oral law,Pharisees,rhetorical refutation,eta particle,women in ministry,egalitarian,complementarian debate
Theology greek term

τεκνογονία (teknogonia)

the childbearing

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Theology greek term

ἀνήρ/γυνή (aner/gyne)

man/woman OR husband/wife

greek
Theology greek term

ἐπιτρέπω (epitrepo)

to permit, to allow, to entrust

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Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Primogeniture in Hebrew culture: the firstborn had greater authority; older people had more leadership -- this cultural context is key to reading Genesis 2.

Cultural background for Schreiner's creation order argument

creation order Gen 2 primogeniture
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Egalitarian pushback: animals were made before Adam in Genesis 1, so creation order doesn't imply authority -- Mike's response: Genesis 1 and 2 are separate accounts, and primogeniture only applies among humans.

Egalitarian counter-argument to primogeniture

creation order Gen 2 Gen 1
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Conclusion on primogeniture: early readers of Genesis would very likely have understood Adam as having higher authority due to being made first; Genesis 2 is the rule, not the exception.

Mike's tentative conclusion on creation order

Gen 2 primogeniture original audience
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Thought experiment: imagine Genesis 2 rewritten with simultaneous creation, mutual naming, and shared commands -- the difference you feel reveals the passage's meaning.

Cumulative case thought experiment

Gen 2 cumulative case thought experiment
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Transition to Genesis 3: key observations to watch for -- Satan tempts Eve first, Adam's accountability differs from Eve's, God approaches Adam first, and the curses are different.

Setting up Genesis 3 analysis

Gen 3 the fall serpent tempts Eve
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Mike's key rebuttal: the egalitarian 'curse reversal' argument depends entirely on Genesis 2 having NO authority differences -- but Genesis 2 clearly does, so the argument fails.

Why the egalitarian curse-reversal argument fails

Gen 3:16 Gen 2 curse reversal
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Critical distinction: Genesis 2-3 is about HUSBANDS and WIVES, not men and women in general -- 'know your place' language wrongly presupposes universal female submission to all men.

Limiting the scope of the Genesis teaching

husband-wife scope Gen 2-3 universal female submission rejected
Mike Winger idea 2022-07-18

Medical argument introduced: ancient Greeks believed the heart, not the head, controlled the body

Mike introduces the first egalitarian argument — the medical claim.

medical argument ancient Greek medicine head-body metaphor
Mike Winger idea 2022-08-15

Biblical reasons for slave obedience: purely situational, not creation-grounded

Mike examines what the NT actually says about why slaves should obey.

Ephesians 6:5-8 Titus 2:9-10 Ephesians 6:5-8 Titus 2:9-10 slavery not creation-grounded
Mike Winger idea 2022-11-11

Paul's second argument: creation order supports head covering (verses 7-10)

Mike identifies the creation-based argument for head coverings.

Genesis 2 1 Corinthians 11:7-10 creation order primogeniture Genesis 2
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Adam bears primary responsibility for sin — 1 Corinthians 15:22 and Romans 5:14-19

Mike argues Adam's greater representational role and accountability shows his greater authority.

Genesis 2 1 Corinthians 15:22 Romans 5:14-19 ezer Genesis 2 1 Corinthians 15:22
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Ephesians 5:23 — headship extends to all marriages, not just Adam and Eve

Mike shows NT application of headship to marriage in general.

Colossians Ephesians 5:23 1 Peter 3:1 kephale headship mutual submission
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Pillar 2: Elder positions AND functions are for men only

Mike establishes the second pillar as more than just the title Elder.

1 Timothy 2:12 eldership 1 Timothy 2:12 teaching with authority
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