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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-28

Ehrman opens his classes by describing Apollonius in language deliberately crafted to sound like Jesus — 'divine birth', 'son of God', 'miracles', 'aroused opposition', 'ascended to heaven' — then reveals he was describing Apollonius, creating a psychological shock designed to undermine students' faith before they can evaluate the claim.

critical thinking apologetics Apollonius of Tyana
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-28

The only detailed source for Apollonius is Philostratus, writing around 215–225 AD — approximately 125 years after Apollonius's death. Philostratus himself expresses uncertainty about details, contradicts himself (e.g., says Apollonius had incredible memory at 100, then says he doesn't know how old he was when he died), and was commissioned by Empress Julia Domna to promote Apollonius worship in Rome.

historical reliability apologetics Apollonius of Tyana
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-28

The Life of Apollonius is an enormous text (~15 hours of reading). Its sheer length makes cherry-picking parallels easy — you could find parallels to Paul, Pythagoras, George Bush, or anyone. The vast majority of the book describes Apollonius traveling beyond the Roman world to India, meeting kings and Brahmins, with content wildly unlike the Gospels.

critical thinking apologetics Apollonius of Tyana
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-28

Philostratus records four possible accounts of what happened to Apollonius at the end of his life: (1) no one saw him die because he deliberately sent Damus away, (2) he died in Ephesus tended by two maidservants, (3) he walked into the temple of Athena at Lindus and disappeared, (4) he walked into a Cretan temple at night, the dogs fawned on him, he loosened his bonds, and a chorus of maidens sang 'hasten to heaven.' None of these accounts is a death and resurrection.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-28

The single post-mortem appearance of Apollonius is to one unnamed young skeptic who sees him in a semi-waking state while others present see nothing. The purpose is to prove souls are immortal in general, not to validate Apollonius's own resurrection. By contrast, Jesus appeared bodily to multiple named witnesses including those who had not previously believed, and they ate and drank with him.

apologetics Apollonius of Tyana post-mortem appearance
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-28

Apollonius was born around 15 AD — meaning when Jesus was crucified, Apollonius was still a young man. His public career began after Jesus's ministry and death. More critically, all New Testament documents were written within the first century AD, within the lifetimes of eyewitnesses, while Philostratus wrote 125+ years after Apollonius died. If any borrowing occurred, Philostratus likely borrowed from Christian categories.

apologetics Apollonius of Tyana chronology
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-28

The primary literary parallel Philostratus is drawing is between Apollonius and Pythagoras, not Jesus. He explicitly says Apollonius 'performed the same feat as Pythagoras' at Ephesus. Apollonius even claims to be a reincarnation of Euphorbus, a fighter at the Battle of Troy. Any apparent parallels to Jesus are incidental or deliberate anti-Christian swipes by Philostratus.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-28

The Gospels are recognized in New Testament scholarship as ancient biography (bios), a genre focused on carefully portraying a real person's life and character. The Life of Apollonius does not meet this standard — it is more likely a literary novel meant to inspire devotion, as evidenced by its fantastical content, internal contradictions, and the explicit political agenda behind its commissioning.

apologetics Apollonius of Tyana genre
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

The one invalid way to use the Bible to prove itself is simple circularity: 'The Bible says it's God's Word, therefore it is.' This same logic could be applied to the Book of Mormon or the Quran, and Winger agrees with skeptics that this form of reasoning is illegitimate.

circular reasoning apologetics Bible reliability
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Claims from the biblical text can be tested against external archaeological evidence. Confirming one claim does not prove everything, but verification increases the text's historical credibility. When archaeology confirms a claim, it lends 'historicity' to the surrounding narrative.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Winger notes that skeptical scholars frequently assume biblical characters or events are fabricated while treating other ancient sources as valid by default. He characterizes this as an unjustified bias rather than sound historical methodology.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Textual criticism — comparing thousands of manuscript copies, locating them geographically, and dating them — has demonstrated that every New Testament book was written within the first century, much earlier than 19th-century skeptics claimed (~200s AD). It also shows the biblical text has been transmitted with remarkable fidelity.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

The Bible is supported by thousands of manuscripts. Comparing them reveals only minor variations — spelling differences, word order — not substantive theological changes. A reader can trust modern John 1 reflects what was originally written.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Winger argues Ehrman's book creates a false impression of radical biblical change by using technically true statements in a misleading way. When pressed in an interview, Ehrman himself admitted the Gospels 'pretty much say exactly what they say in your Bible now,' undermining the impression his book creates.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Winger's favorite counter to 'the Bible has been changed' claims: ask the person what specific doctrine or belief should be different based on their view of how the text has been altered. He says no one ever answers because the manuscript tradition is so stable that no theology would change.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Around 650 AD, Caliph Uthman collected competing Quran versions, created a single authorized text, and destroyed all variant manuscripts. This means the Quran — a later document than the Bible — has a worse manuscript tradition because independent confirmation of the original text was deliberately eliminated.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

The Bible is 66 books by 40+ authors spanning over 1,500 years in multiple languages. This provides the kind of multiple independent attestation historians look for when establishing historical reliability. Historians prize multiple witnesses close in time to events — criteria the New Testament's 27 first-century documents meet.

multiple attestation apologetics Bible reliability
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Historians accept that Jesus was baptized by John as historically reliable, partly due to the criterion of embarrassment — early Christians would have had reason to explain away or omit a detail where Jesus submits to a baptism of repentance, suggesting it is not invented.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Historians broadly agree the disciples sincerely claimed to have seen Jesus alive after his death and genuinely believed this. The question of what explains those claims is debated, but the existence of the belief itself is accepted as historical.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Historians broadly agree that Paul genuinely converted as a result of what he at least believed was an appearance of the risen Christ, representing a dramatic reversal from his role as a persecutor of Christians.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Even Bart Ehrman — one of the most prominent critical scholars — acknowledges that the New Testament documents are the earliest and best sources for historical knowledge about Jesus, undercutting the dismissal of the Gospels as unreliable.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Valid prophecy requires dateable pre-event writing. Manuscript evidence (e.g., Dead Sea Scrolls) places Isaiah and the Psalms before Jesus, making their messianic content genuine prediction rather than post-hoc composition. This distinguishes biblical prophecy from the Book of Mormon or Quran examples.

Dead Sea Scrolls prophecy apologetics
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Despite being written by 40+ authors across 1,500+ years in multiple languages, the Bible displays cohesive internal unity — including undesigned coincidences and a sweeping meta-narrative centered on Christ. This coherence is evidence of a single divine author superintending the whole.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Winger's approach to skeptical worldviews: challenge the person to live consistently with their beliefs. He recounts a conversation with a man who believed reality was an illusion and 'all is one' — but who refused to give away his possessions, proving he didn't actually believe what he claimed. Atheism similarly cannot be lived consistently (e.g., pretending moral values exist).

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Winger explicitly frames his approach as a cumulative case: archaeology, textual criticism, multiple attestation, historical reconstruction, prophecy, unity/meta-narrative, and experiential evidence are each like different tests on a $100 bill — no single test is definitive, but together they build a compelling case for the Bible's authenticity and divine inspiration.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Whether it is 'reasonable' to think some biblical claims are false depends entirely on one's prior conclusion about inspiration. If the Bible is demonstrated to be inspired by God, then assuming it contains errors becomes unreasonable, because God is reliable and dependable by nature.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Winger warns against approaching Scripture selectively — taking what fits existing preferences and discarding the rest. Authentic Christian discipleship requires approaching the Bible as authoritative, remaining willing to change beliefs and behavior when the text challenges them, rather than making oneself the final arbiter.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Winger addresses the claim that Paul's 'not with words of eloquent wisdom' (1 Cor 1:17) condemns the use of apologetics. He argues this is a misreading: Paul is saying his persuasion was not merely rhetorical — the gospel itself had power in Corinth. Acts shows Paul regularly reasoning and persuading. Apologetics serves as a 'crowbar' to open doors, but the gospel message itself is what saves.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Winger's illustration: apologetics is like the jaws of life — it opens the door for someone to receive help, but it is not the thing that actually saves. Salvation comes through the gospel (Christ crucified, sin resolved through Christ). This keeps apologetics in its proper place without dismissing it.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-14

Anger is defined as an internal 'girling' feeling — a changed inner state that drives thoughts and actions.

Mike attempts a working definition of anger as the emotional/internal experience.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-14

Romans 12:17-21 — do not repay evil for evil; leave vengeance to God; overcome evil with good, even toward enemies.

New Testament passage on retaliation and the theological grounding for non-retaliation.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-14

Wrath (Colossians 3:8) is the outward expression of anger — the outburst; James 1:19 commands slow speech as the antidote.

Distinction between anger (the feeling) and wrath (the expression); applied to marriage and conflict.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-11-14

Slander and obscene talk (Colossians 3:8) are what anger does to the tongue — attacking character and saying hateful things; Colossians 3:8 is a complete map of what to put off.

Final two elements of the Colossians 3:8 list; synthesis of the whole passage.

Colossians 3:8 sanctification anger Colossians 3:8
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-14

Q&A: Malice toward God means you've gotten something wrong — Job's model is to acknowledge speaking without knowledge and pray for your own heart.

Q&A on feeling bitterness toward God.

Job prayer faith Q&A
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-14

Q&A: Dealing with malice toward someone who has died — pray for your own heart every time the feeling arises; direction toward good matters more than immediate resolution.

Q&A on unresolved bitterness toward a deceased person.

prayer forgiveness Q&A
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-14

Q&A: 2 John 1:9-11 — disconnect from the false teacher's church and teaching, but distinguish that from family relationship; the two separations are not identical.

Final Q&A on whether to disconnect from a family member teaching false doctrine.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-12-01

Jim issued a fact-check challenge to his audience; Mike takes up that challenge, emphasizing that Jim is sincere but simply misinformed — not deliberately lying

Mike establishes the spirit of the response before diving into specifics

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Mike Winger idea 2018-12-01

Atheists can be gullible too: skeptics sometimes have a low bar for accepting anti-Christian claims, just as Christians can have a low bar for confirming their own beliefs

Key thematic statement of the video

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Mike Winger idea 2018-12-01

Jim's claim about Koine Greek: the New Testament was written in a prestige dialect used only by wealthy, educated elites — not a common language

Third major claim Mike refutes

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Mike Winger idea 2018-12-01

Refutation: Koine Greek is literally the 'common language' — the word koine means 'common' — it was a simplified lingua franca spread through Alexander the Great's empire, the exact opposite of an elite dialect

Mike corrects the Koine Greek claim with a university linguistics source

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Mike Winger idea 2018-12-01

Jim's own closing statement admits his audience should not simply believe him but verify for themselves — Mike takes this as evidence of Jim's sincerity, not dishonesty, and uses it to encourage skeptics to investigate Christian claims more seriously

Mike wraps up the refutation portion

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Mike Winger idea 2018-12-01

Q&A: How do you witness to nominal or hypocritical Christians who are not bearing fruit? Mike notes that those who don't love the Lord are ironically less worried about their spiritual state than genuine believers

Question from Nick Kinsman

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Mike Winger idea 2018-12-01

Q&A: Mike has not yet settled his position on pre-trib, mid-trib, or post-trib rapture — he was raised in Calvary Chapel's strong pre-trib culture but feels his ability to defend pre-trib is thin and wants to do thorough homework before teaching publicly on it

Question from Bradley Wilcox about tribulation timing

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Mike Winger idea 2018-12-01

Q&A: Diversity in Christianity is not the same as division — unity is a calling, but believers can disagree on secondary issues while remaining unified in primary ones through love

Question from Fred Baek about how to reconcile Christian diversity with the biblical call for unity

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Mike Winger idea 2018-12-01

Closing challenge to skeptics: be critical of your own criticisms — if you laugh at Christians, make sure you have good reason to; you may have adopted the dogma of your own worldview uncritically

Mike's closing remarks to both Christian and skeptic viewers

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Mike Winger idea 2018-12-12

Zahnd's three-step method for dismantling orthodox Christianity and replacing it with his own version

Winger maps out the structural argument Zahnd uses in his book 'Sinners in the Hands of a Loving God.'

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Mike Winger idea 2018-12-12

Zahnd deliberately misrepresents Exodus 21 on slavery to children at a youth camp in order to discredit the Bible

Winger plays and responds to a video clip of Zahnd describing how he used Exodus 21:20–21 at a youth camp to provoke students into rejecting the Bible's moral authority.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-12-12

Zahnd's idol: a universalist Jesus who saves devout Muslims regardless of belief, contradicting Christ's own words

Winger reads Zahnd's 'Becky and Belkis' thought experiment from page 142 of the book, in which a devout Muslim woman is contrasted with a mean American Christian woman.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-12-12

Zahnd claims the Bible contradicts itself and that the Psalms/Prophets argue against the Torah — both claims are false

Winger examines Zahnd's step three: neutralizing the Bible's authority by claiming it is not univocal and contains internal theological debates.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-12-12

Zahnd claims Jesus 'edited' Isaiah 61 in Luke 4 — but Jesus stopped reading mid-sentence, he did not delete text

Winger examines Zahnd's most prominent proof-text for the 'Jesus edits the Bible' thesis: Jesus reading from Isaiah in the Nazareth synagogue (Luke 4:16–21).

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