1 Corinthians 14 — Research Notes (Cheryl Schatz)

Collection of 5 research notes examining 1 Corinthians 14:34-36, including the eta particle argument for quotation/refutation reading, the non-existent 'law' reference, segregated seating problems, and commentary from RtNT and Bender showing contradictions with Paul's affirmation of women prophesying.

Where Mike Winger Went Wrong on Women

Comprehensive response to the entire Mike Winger Women in Ministry video series (Parts 1-13)

The Debates Over 1 Timothy 2

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the debates over 1 Timothy 2:11-15

Why Mike Winger is Wrong About “Authenteō” in 1 Timothy 2:12 – and Why It Matters

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the meaning of authenteō in 1 Timothy 2:12

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: “Women Keep Silent” (1 Cor 14:34–35)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 11 on 'women keep silent' in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35

Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free? Parts 5-7: 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 3, Galatians 3:28

[Music] the women are to keep silent in the churches for they are not permitted to speak but are to subject themselves just as the law also says if they desire to learn anything let them ask their own husbands at home for it is improper for a woman to speak in church 1 Corinthians 14 has been a diff...

Phil Johnson Monstrous Divas

Phil Johnson over at Pyromaniacs has struck up some heat on a post that he titles “The First Blast of the Trumpet Against the Monstrous Regiment of the Discernment Divas”. In this post and in his subsequent comments he makes his position plain that women are not allowed to publicly point out an erro

Evaluating Schatz Seaver Debate

On July 27th, 2009 Mike Seaver and I started a ten session debate on Women in Ministry where I was able to ask Mike questions on his position, he answered my questions and then we each had one response. Mike is still considering whether he will continue with another ten sessions where Mike will ask

Mike Seaver And Cheryl Schatz 9

Wayne Grudem 3

This is the part 3 of answering Wayne Grudem’s “ Open letter to Egalitarians ” and his “Six Questions That Have Never Been Satisfactorily Answered”. Today I am posting his third question and my own answer

Semigalitariansim And Feminist Air

When does explaining God’s Word make one an enemy of the church. According to Mike Seaver, a woman who is allowed to teach the Word of God to men, even if she is under the authority of her husband and even if she has received authority from her pastor to teach the Bible (and assuming her pastor is m

Paul As He Pleases 9

This is the ninth in a series of simulated interviews with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day

Round 3 Interview With Paul On A Woman

This post is the third one of a simulated interview with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day. Doug, a strong complementarian has been given the opportunity to ask Paul about

Interview With The Apostle Paul

This post will be a simulated interview with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day. We are interested in asking Paul his reasons for what he wrote about women and what he thin

Do Egalitarians Twist The Scriptures

The charge is often laid that egalitarians twist the scriptures. I would like to apply a saying that I read recently

Galatians 328 Is It Only About Salvation

According to complementarians, Galatians 3:28 is not about equality in Christ, but about all of us being in the same “boat” of salvation. The Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood (CBMW) has made quite an effort to try to demolish Galatians 3:28 as a basis of spiritual equality outside of salvat

1 Cor14 Concludes

We have been going through 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, the passage that appears to silence women in the church to see how carefully Paul has constructed his words in 1 Corinthians 14:36 to contradict the silencing in verses 34 & 35. (For past articles on this topic, please see the 1 Corinthians 14 secti

Let Her Learnor Not

In our continuing discussion of 1 Corinthians 14:34-36, we come to the problematic area of learning

Forbid Not

Paul said something profound in 1 Corinthians 14:39 that goes against the grain of the hierarchical mindset. Paul said “forbid not to speak…”

Who Dared To Contradict Paul

Many people have a big problem with Paul because they think that he was sexist. I would like to change that point of view by looking carefully at the text so that we can fully appreciate Paul for who he was, not the false impression that we have of Paul

Is A Womans Voice Filthy

In the last post we talked about how there is no “law” in the Old Testament scriptures that forced women to be silent in the assembly so the reference in 1 Corinthians 14:34, 35 had to be some other “law” that forced silence on women. The “law” that silences women is found not in God’s law, but in t

The Elusive Law

1 Corinthians 14:34, 35 has been a problem passage because of two issues that stick out like a sore thumb. The first issue is the elusive law

Scriptural Fences

One of the helpful things in interpreting scripture is to identify what I call “scriptural fences”. These special verses force us to interpret the passage within the limits set up by the “fence” line

Are Womens Gifts To Be Used Outside The Church

In my blog entry called “ Are women’s gifts secondary. ” I documented the complementarian teaching that women’s gifts are secondary to men’s gifts and that women to use their gifts outside the church

@MarkGrote What type of speech? Women are assumed to be praying and prophesying in 1 Cor 11:5. Paul’s concern was not about silencing one gender but about the orderly use of the gifts for the benefit all: 1 Corinthians 14:31 (NASB 2020): “For you ...

@MarkGrote What type of speech? Women are assumed to be praying and prophesying in 1 Cor 11:5. Paul’s concern was not about silencing one gender but about the orderly use of the gifts for the benefi

@Jeffersonian77 @TheMuppetPastor @ROBERTFERDINA14 @onegospel2021 No, that was Paul correcting something the Corinthians wrote in their letter to him. 1 Corinthians 14:36 (KJV): “What? came the word of God out from you [men]? or came it unto you [men...

@Jeffersonian77 @TheMuppetPastor @ROBERTFERDINA14 @onegospel2021 No, that was Paul correcting something the Corinthians wrote in their letter to him. 1 Corinthians 14:36 (KJV): “What? came the word o

@Shahmadrid0912 And another passage being misread. Paul is actually quoting from things the Corinthians wrote to him in their letter and refuting them. 1 Corinthians 14:36 (KJV): “What? came the word of God out from you [men]? or came it unto you [...

@Shahmadrid0912 And another passage being misread. Paul is actually quoting from things the Corinthians wrote to him in their letter and refuting them. 1 Corinthians 14:36 (KJV): “What? came the wor

@TmarianG @Pontifex Or maybe people forgot that Paul was quoting things from the

@TmarianG @Pontifex Or maybe people forgot that Paul was quoting things from the letter the Corinthians wrote to Paul and correcting them. 1 Corinthians 14:36 (KJV): “What? came the word of God out f

@SvenVerbeet @parcel_gary @redjellydonut Wow, not what Paul is saying. He is re

@SvenVerbeet @parcel_gary @redjellydonut Wow, not what Paul is saying. He is refuting something the Corinthians said in their letter. 1 Corinthians 14:36 (KJV): “What? came the word of God out from

@watchdog150 @JennaEllisEsq You should take another look because Paul is actually quoting from the Corinthian letter and refuting where they said women should be silenced. Seriously. 1 Corinthians 14:36 (KJV): What? came the word of God from you [m...

@watchdog150 @JennaEllisEsq You should take another look because Paul is actually quoting from the Corinthian letter and refuting where they said women should be silenced. Seriously. 1 Corinthians 1