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Scripture Commentary article 2009-01-21

Who Was Judge Deborah Or Barak

The story of Deborah and Barak in the book of Judges has caused many hierarchists to assign the God-given work of judge delivering the people of Israel to Barak while denying that God raised up Deborah as a deliverer. By assigning a calling to Barak that scripture never assigns, it appears that the

Isaiah 11:32 Isaiah 3:12 Judges 2:16 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-10-03

Women Leaders To Judge Sinful Men

It is very common for hierarchists to explain away Deborah’s position as Judge in the nation of Israel as merely a judgment by God

Isaiah 11:32 Isaiah 3:1 Isaiah 3:12 Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-20

@DickSaban1 @aflawedmanofGod @ortrails @goteamcarr You are not reading Isaiah 3:12 in context (see below). What Paul says is consistent with his other letters. Yes, only male Levites were the only ones allowed to be priests as that is what was in t...

@DickSaban1 @aflawedmanofGod @ortrails @goteamcarr You are not reading Isaiah 3:12 in context (see below). What Paul says is consistent with his other letters. Yes, only male Levites were the only o

Isaiah 3:12 debate
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Isaiah 3:12 — 'women rule over them' — used by patriarchalists to argue women as rulers is always bad in God's eyes.

Examining a key patriarchalist proof text

Isaiah 3:12 patriarchalism Isaiah 3:12 women as rulers
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Textual issue in Isaiah 3:12: the Hebrew word for 'women' may actually be 'creditors' — the consonants are identical, only vowels differ.

Textual criticism of Isaiah 3:12

Isaiah 3:12 NET Bible Septuagint Isaiah 3:12
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Isaiah 3:14 may support the 'creditors' reading — wealthy leaders lending money to the poor and keeping them in bondage.

Contextual support for 'creditors' reading

Isaiah 3:12 Isaiah 3:14 Isaiah 3:12 Isaiah 3:14 creditors interpretation
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Even if 'women' is the right reading, it's metaphorical — there were no actual women rulers at the time; Isaiah is calling male leaders 'women' as an insult.

Interpreting Isaiah 3:12 if 'women' is the correct reading

Isaiah 3:12 Isaiah 1:23 Micah Isaiah 3:12 Isaiah 1:23 Micah
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Further evidence for metaphor: infants weren't literally ruling, verse is about current rulers not future replacement, and women are rebuked later in chapter 3 but not for leading.

Building the case that Isaiah 3:12 is metaphor

Isaiah 3:12 Isaiah 3 Isaiah 3:12 metaphor Isaiah 3
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Three possible reasons why 'women leaders' is negative in Isaiah 3:12: role distinctions, lack of respect, or lack of training — Mike favors the training/competence explanation.

Interpreting why Isaiah uses 'women' negatively even as metaphor

Isaiah 3:12 Deborah patriarchal culture Isaiah 3:12
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Don't base a view on an unclear passage — Isaiah 3:12 can be explained in either egalitarian or complementarian ways; Mike rejects the Davidic lineage/genetic argument.

Final assessment of Isaiah 3:12

Isaiah 3:12 hermeneutics biblethinker.org Isaiah 3:12
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Isaiah 3:12 does not prove women ruling is always God's judgment

Mike addresses the patriarchalist use of Isaiah 3:12.

Isaiah 3:12 Deborah Isaiah 3:12 women ruling as judgment