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Scripture Commentary article 2022-11-25

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Women Leaders in the New Testament (PART A)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 4 on women leaders in the New Testament (Part A)

1 Cor. 12:1–30 1 Corinthians 1:11 1 Corinthians 1:16 Women in Leadership Complementarianism Debates
Theology verse entry

Psalm 109:8

Sections: cross_references, exegesis, greek_analysis

Psalm 109:8 apostolate,office,episkope,Matthias,Judas,replacement
Theology verse entry

Titus 2:3-5

Sections: debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Titus 2:3-5 older women,teaching,presbutidas,domestic myths,egalitarian,women in ministry
Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 3:1-4

Sections: greek_analysis

1 Timothy 3:1-4 elder,overseer,pastor,qualifications,women,tis,husband-of-one-wife,polygamy
Theology verse entry

Acts 1:16-26

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Acts 1:16-26 Judas,betrayal,foreknowledge,sovereignty,prophecy fulfillment,predestination,free will,apostolate,Matthias,Paul,twelve,lot,human initiative
Theology greek term

ἐπισκοπή (episkopē)

office, oversight, supervision

greek
Theology greek term

πρεσβύτιδας (presbutidas)

older women, female elders

greek
Theology greek term

πρεσβύτερος (presbuteros)

elder, older man; church overseer/leader by seniority

greek
Mike Winger idea 2022-04-13

Elder, overseer, bishop, and presbyter are all the same biblical role

Mike clarifies terminology before discussing eldership requirements.

overseer episkopos elder
Mike Winger idea 2022-04-13

Belleville's case for women elders from 1 Timothy 5:9-10 (enrolled widows)

Mike examines Belleville's argument that enrolled widows were functioning as elders.

1 Timothy 5:9-10 Linda Belleville elder presbuteros
Mike Winger idea 2022-04-13

1 Timothy 5:1-2: 'older women' does not mean women elders; equivocation fallacy

Mike addresses another passage sometimes cited for women elders.

1 Timothy 3 1 Timothy 5:1-2 presbuteros equivocation fallacy 1 Timothy 3
Mike Winger idea 2022-04-13

Titus 2:3: 'older women' uses a different Greek word (presbytis), not the elder office term

Mike addresses a less common egalitarian proof text.

Titus 2:3-5 presbuteros Titus 2:3-5 presbytis
Pulpit research note

"Words Matter" — Elder, Pastor, Overseer Distinctions

At 12:19, he says "Sometimes people say it's just semantics, but words matter, they really matter" — and then proceeds to flatten the very distinctions God's inspired words preserve. He claims elder