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Scripture Commentary article 2024-06-11

Obedience is not a secondary issue

The article argues that the restriction on women serving as pastors, grounded in 1 Timothy 2:12, is not a secondary or debatable theological issue but a plain obedience issue. The author contends Paul's prohibition is rooted in creation order (not culture), making it transcultural and non-negotiable, and that egalitarian interpretations require "obliterating" what Paul plainly says. The piece ends with a challenge to egalitarians: what does obedience or disobedience to this passage actually look like?

1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2:13 1 Timothy 3 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Complementarianism

Scripture Commentary article 2010-04-14

T4G Comp Tied To Gospel

The 2010 Together for the Gospel conference is on right now as I write this article. The conference this year is called The Unadjusted Gospel and according to J

Colossians 14:34-35 Ephesians 4:2 Exodus 1 Women in Leadership Complementarianism

Scripture Commentary article 2009-05-30

Neopatriarch Fails To Refute Cheryl

Some have wondered why “Chris” the complementarian stopped posting here. Apparently, he could not get his refutation of my work to stand in an interactive forum so he moved it over to a place where he could have the floor to himself

1 Timothy 2:10 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2:11-12 1 Timothy 2 Complementarianism Debates

Scripture Commentary article 2008-09-20

Gospel Today Magazine Pulled

A Christian magazine is treated as pornography merely for reporting on the trend of women pastors

Hebrews 100 Isaiah 20 Women in Leadership Complementarianism

Scripture Commentary article 2008-09-06

Public Statement Regarding Matt Slick

Public Statement regarding the Cheryl Schatz initiated Matthew 18 meeting with Matt Slick (CARM)

1 Peter 4:10 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2:15 1 Timothy 2 Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership

Scripture Commentary article 2008-09-04

Ministry Produces Fear

Wade Burleson has produced a thought-provoking article about character assassination that comes as a result of fear. Wade writes :

Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership Complementarianism

Scripture Commentary article 2008-08-14

Is Complementarianism Merely Personal Conviction

This post is a response to Randy Stinson’s article titled “ Is Complementarianism a Merely Personal Conviction. “

1 Corinthians 11 1 Corinthians 11:12 1 Corinthians 7:14 Complementarianism Debates

Scripture Commentary article 2008-07-11

Asking Right Questions

Have you ever found that your discussions with hierarchists goes nowhere fast because they say they have heard the egalitarian arguments before and they are not willing to listen to what you have to say. Perhaps we are missing an opportunity to engage them because we are wanting to teach them first

1 Corinthians 12:21 1 Timothy 2:12 Acts 1 1 Timothy 2 Genesis & Creation Debates

Scripture Commentary article 2008-06-09

Noodling With The Greek Grammar

While I have made a very strong point of the Greek grammar in 1 Timothy 2:15 with the singular “she” and the plural “they” (no specific gender for “they”), some have been trying hard to wiggle out of the implications that Paul is referring to a specific woman because the only living person at that t

1 Peter 4:11 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2:15 1 Timothy 2 Debates

Scripture Commentary article 2008-05-17

Should Comps Debate

While there has been some genuine, respectful dialog between complementarian and egalitarian scholars, more often than not, the emotions that are brought into the dialog have brought less than respectful debate. The body of Christ is meant to fight the enemy together but when some turn their weapons

1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2:15 Exodus 1 1 Timothy 2 Complementarianism Debates

Scripture Commentary article 2008-03-27

To Diane Sellner Of Carm

**October 2008 addition Note: A public statement regarding Diane Sellner’s role in the public attacks against me is at

Women in Leadership Debates

Scripture Commentary article 2007-09-08

Debating On Women Pastors

Did you ever feel pulled in a direction you really didn’t want to go in. Well, this has been my life for the last 3 1/2 years

Colossians 6 Isaiah 4 1 Timothy 2 Adam & Eve Spiritual Gifts

Scripture Commentary article 2007-03-24

Should Cbmw Fight Egalitarians

This week CBMW (the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood) released two audio tapes from the February 2007 “Different by Design” Conference held in Minneapolis Minnesota. ( ) I was amazed at the way that the gospel was connected to the gender issue in such a way that those who do not hold to pa

Exodus 4 Isaiah 1 Women in Leadership Complementarianism Debates

Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-07-06

@The_War_Within_ You know, Mike Winger blocked me for being annoying about asking him to stop being divisive and calling people to repent of what he said was a secondary issue, teaching egalitarian doctrine, and then told people to loudly leave their...

@The_War_Within_ You know, Mike Winger blocked me for being annoying about asking him to stop being divisive and calling people to repent of what he said was a secondary issue, teaching egalitarian do

Obedience is not a secondary issue

T4G Comp Tied To Gospel

Neopatriarch Fails To Refute Cheryl

Gospel Today Magazine Pulled

Public Statement Regarding Matt Slick

Ministry Produces Fear

Is Complementarianism Merely Personal Conviction

Asking Right Questions

Noodling With The Greek Grammar

Should Comps Debate

To Diane Sellner Of Carm

Debating On Women Pastors

Should Cbmw Fight Egalitarians

@The_War_Within_ You know, Mike Winger blocked me for being annoying about asking him to stop being divisive and calling people to repent of what he said was a secondary issue, teaching egalitarian doctrine, and then told people to loudly leave their...

Yet Mike clarified that egalitarianism is a secondary issue and that they should

@megbasham Why is this wonderful news? Why should the issue of female pastors be

@billyruck @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii Also, Mike was encouraging people to loudly leave their egalitarian churches. Why loudly leave? If you disagree, fine. Treat it as a secondary issue. The thing is that Mike himself acts like an egalitarian in his m...

@chris_jolliff @ThePastorBurris @CherylSchatz @IsaacGr66057889 @wichman_matthew Yes, calling someone to repent implies they are sinning and one cannot sin and not repent and be saved. We don't repent of secondary issues. You can proclaim the same gos...

@JoeAdrian256 @MikeWingerii @iheartJ37 Do you remember that Mike called those propagating egalitarian teaching to repent? If he instead treated it as a secondary issue (as he himself stated it was) and not something that one must repent of then I wou...

Complementarians should stop dividing the church and demonizing those faithful t

@ChrisNandor @pudgenet @MikeWingerii Personally, I don’t think a church should forbid differing teaching on secondary issues that aren’t sin. It can be confusing for people, but the reality is that people will differ and the church may have a default...

@Tailfeathers_WA @MikeWingerii I showed the paradoxes which seem quite obvious to me. Yes, secondary issues can still be problems and they may even mean you will find another church *quietly*, but you can disagree and still have full fellowship. Whet...

@rofbethany @BrandonGra53760 Rejecting what you say scripture says about this se

@MeridithABlack @MikeWingerii Well, the reason I asked was because it was Mike that said that I need to repent for propagating what I believe the scripture teaches about women in pastoral ministry which disagrees with what he says it teaches—somethin...

Why does @MikeWingerii feel that just disagreeing with him does “great harm” to

@WhiteHistorian @kirableu @smashbaals Disingenuous? All issues are secondary? You are free to run your church however you see fit when it comes to the secondary issues, but you shouldn't be separating from or not cooperating with others who see thin...

@ChristMount777 @JoWiKi Unity of the body is also very important. More important than you getting your way in everything or your own personal comfort. Your church may have only male leaders but cooperating with others that have female leaders means t...

@coramdeo1 @NateSchlomann I’ve been a member at a church with which I had disagr

@MackDonahue @MikeWingerii Mack, when he says that the egalitarian view is a secondary issues, but then treats it like it is a sin to propagate it, this does harm to the body of Christ. If he is so concerned about harm done to the body, then why doe...

@onegospel2021 @NotTheBaptizer @MikeWingerii I see @NotTheBaptizer who has blocked me is still reading my comments, eh? I’m not super mad. I’m very concerned with Mike’s divisive stance on what he admits is a secondary issue but is currently in focu...

@peace_got @MikeWingerii Absolutely fine and encouraged to try to convince other

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii This is where Mike Winger’s statements get messy. Because he says it’s a secondary issue and egalitarians are beloved family and brothers and sisters in Christ, but the...

@Calvinator8000 @MikeWingerii Hi Calvinator 8000 😂⎯ you must be a Calvinist. Tolerating differences in secondary issues is not tolerating false teachers. False teachers are those who have strayed from the fundamentals. We all believe things that are...

@ScottCross_8 @pastherandie @peace_got @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeW

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii Not true. My last church had a mix of comp and egal. They only allowed men as lead pastor. I didn't agree with it, but tolerated it as a secondary issue. Egal is NOT the central issue. If it bothered m...

@peace_got @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @MikeWingerii No, that is where you are wrong. Everyone thinks they are correct. And you can even leave your church and go elsewhere if you wish, but doing it quietly with the blessing of your church is the way to ha...

@MarkGrote Hmm. I'm not entirely sure I would apply that verse to Mike here, but

@B_Christs_Amb @MikeWingerii Outrage? Did you not notice the call to repent, to "loudly" make waves in your egal churches, to tell others to also leave, thus causing strife and division? All over a secondary issue Mike himself says is secondary? But ...

@avyargo @MikeWingerii No. You are 100% certain that complementarians should "lo

@RSCharlton @NarnianAttorney @MikeWingerii Neat magic trick. So you just eliminated all secondary issues by quipping “sola scriptura”? I believe sola scriptura too. That verse is in the context of stopping false teaching, not stopping anyone from te...

@JeffreyTanCG @MikeWingerii I'm pretty sure he has been influenced by CBMW and other complementarian writings, but nevertheless, Mike himself states that this is a secondary issue. That means that taking either side should be permissible and we shoul...

@Torncurtainorg @MikeWingerii So you believe that the advice to leave "loudly," making waves and taking others with you is good advice over secondary issues? Following Mike's advice will surely cause numerous church splits⎯and this over a secondary m...

@arnold7181 @MikeWingerii I agree that Calvinism has caused more troubles, but i

@MikeWingerii Mike added a video answering a question about what to do if your c

When @MikeWingerii says that this is a secondary issue yet calls for egalitarian

@onegospel2021 @KimberleeJayneW @deadtosin610 You said Jesus whipped. You presumed that whatever Jesus did is fair game for this issue. Or did you not? We all know that you disagree. I disagree with you. But I don't go around calling you a false tea...

@NotTheBaptizer @deadtosin610 @FancyABQ You have an odd way of showing love. To repent from what I believe would be to deny what I believe is the truth of scripture and to accept a view that I believe is not what scripture teaches. I would be sinning...

@rofbethany How is it not a secondary issue? You even disagree with Mike, a comp

@Themostbased098 @MikeWingerii You don't REPENT of secondary issues. It's like saying to repent of your amillenialism or repent of drinking wine in moderation. When we use that word, it means wrong was done, that sin was committed. I want Mike to exp...

@CherylSchatz @wichman_matthew I think he thinks he's trying to be nice to egali

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@Tailfeathers_WA @MikeWingerii I showed the paradoxes which seem quite obvious to me. Yes, secondary issues can still be problems and they may even mean you will find another church quietly, but you can disagree and still have full fellowship. Whet...