What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Women Apostles

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 5 on whether women were apostles in the New Testament

Masculine Christianity

This is part 2 of What God intended at creation and it is inspired by a recent lecture given by John Piper where he states that God’s intention for Christianity is for it to have a “ masculine feel “. After discussing John Piper’s Masculine Christianity, I will give my critique of his masculine argu

King_Uzziah

In an interesting blog post on Pyromaniacs the February 10th post, author Dan Phillips tries to link the rebellion of King Uzziah and his punishment of leprosy with the “unfaithful” act of women who apparently are committing treachery against God by becoming pastors. Is this really true

@ball_dummy @zechariah1680 @thebereanmillen So only husbands can teach? You know you are sawing off the branch you are standing on…Paul wasn’t married. In 1 Cor 7:1 Paul indicates he is responding to things they wrote him. 1 Cor 14:34-35 are a quo...

@ball_dummy @zechariah1680 @thebereanmillen So only husbands can teach? You know you are sawing off the branch you are standing on…Paul wasn’t married. In 1 Cor 7:1 Paul indicates he is responding t

@ball_dummy @zechariah1680 @thebereanmillen What explicit instruction says "An elder must not be a woman"? In 1 Tim 3 you have "one wife husband" but this is simply monogamous. Paul wasn't married and surely he met his own requirements. Then later...

@ball_dummy @zechariah1680 @thebereanmillen What explicit instruction says "An elder must not be a woman"? In 1 Tim 3 you have "one wife husband" but this is simply monogamous. Paul wasn't married a

@ball_dummy @zechariah1680 @thebereanmillen The question was why would you have

@ball_dummy @zechariah1680 @thebereanmillen The question was why would you have a husband wife pastor team. P and A were leaders of some kind⎯there's a lot of things we don't get told explicitly abou

@zechariah1680 @thebereanmillen Because both may have qualifications and calling

@zechariah1680 @thebereanmillen Because both may have qualifications and calling and they complement each other. Plus a female needing counselling doesn’t have to be alone with a male pastor, etc. R

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Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis

Matthew 24:29-31: Cosmic signs, universal visibility, gathering of the elect

The actual events accompanying Jesus' return

Zechariah 9:9 — Ra claims it is not Messianic and requires Gentile conversion and expanded Israeli borders for fulfillment. The text contains none of those requirements.

Ra argues Christians misappropriate Jewish prophecy for Jesus.

The Babylonian Talmud itself treats Zechariah 9:9 as Messianic — debating how to reconcile a glorious coming (Daniel 7) with a humble donkey-riding coming.

Winger uses a Jewish non-Christian source to establish the Messianic reading of Zechariah 9:9.

Leviticus 24:22 — "same rule for sojourner and native" does not require Gentile Torah-observance; it is case law about judicial fairness in civil punishments

Q&A: questioner asks about Leviticus 24:22 and Zechariah 14:16 as texts allegedly requiring Gentiles to keep OT law.

Zechariah 14:16 — Feast of Tabernacles observance by nations does not mean those nations are under the law

Follow-up point on the same Q&A question about Gentiles under OT law.

Objection and response: the pronoun shift in Ezekiel 26 and Zechariah 9

Addressing the objection that the plural pronoun in Ezekiel 26 still refers only to Nebuchadnezzar.

Divine plurality in Zechariah 2 — Yahweh sent by Yahweh

McLatchie gives Zechariah 2 as an example of intricate harmonies pointing to the Trinity in the Old Testament.

Isaiah 63 — Three persons of the Trinity in the Old Testament

McLatchie presents Isaiah 63:7-10 as containing all three persons of the Trinity within a single Old Testament passage.

The Angel of the Lord as the messianic figure — Malachi 3 and Judges 2

McLatchie connects the Angel of the Lord to the "messenger of the covenant" in Malachi 3, establishing the Angel of the Lord as a messianic figure.

Why was Zechariah punished for his question about John's birth, but Mary was not punished for asking the same type of question?

Question from Terry Defilo about Luke 1:18 (Zechariah) vs. Luke 1:34 (Mary) and the apparent inconsistency.

Parable of the 10 Virgins (Matthew 25): about persevering in genuine devotion to Christ's coming kingdom. The foolish virgins expected the bridegroom but weren't truly prepared — Christians in name only, not in genuineness. Oil likely represents the Holy Spirit (connected to oil symbolism in Zechariah) and genuine relationship with Christ. You can't borrow someone else's faith. The warning: don't be a nominal Christian coasting on a past experience.

Parable of 10 Virgins — genuine vs nominal faith

Zechariah 9:9-10 is the key OT prophecy behind the entry — the messiah comes humble on a donkey bringing salvation through service, not military conquest. The donkey vs. war horse contrast is central.

Old Testament prophetic background for the Triumphal Entry

Solomon's inauguration on a donkey (1 Kings 1) and Genesis 49:10-11 provide additional donkey-messiah connections that Zechariah 9:9 likely draws from.

Additional OT background on donkey symbolism

Is God the Branch, or the Vine?: A few times in the OT, Jesus is referred to as the Branch (Zechariah 3:8, 6: 12, Jeremiah 23:5). Why then is He referred to as the Vine and us the branches in John 15:5?

Q&A question: Is God the Branch, or the Vine?

About the 2 Witnesses / Rapture?: It seems like the 2 witnesses in Zechariah 4 and Revelation 11 are like two peoples instead of individuals, as Romans 11: 17-21 speaks of olive trees/branches being Jews/Gentiles. If so, would the rapture be the "calling up" of them?

Q&A question: About the 2 Witnesses / Rapture?

How Creative Can Worship Be in Church?: I would like your views on flag waving (as the Lord is my banner), dancing, and body painting as part of “creative worship” in church. When I questioned these things, Zechariah 1: 20-21 was quoted to me. Since creativity is inspired by God, am I being overly cautious and resisting change which is from God?

Q&A question: How Creative Can Worship Be in Church?

Fulfilled or Unfilled Prophecy?: Has Zechariah 9:1-8 already been fulfilled? If not, is it possible that it is in the process of being fulfilled today?

Q&A question: Fulfilled or Unfilled Prophecy?

The Passion Week and Zechariah in the Gospel of Mark

Connecting Zechariah to Judas

Jude 9 — Michael disputing with Satan over Moses's body and saying "the Lord rebuke you" — is the most interesting passage in the debate. If Jude alludes to Zechariah 3:2 (where it is Yahweh himself speaking those words), then identifying Michael with Jesus would actually require elevating Michael to divine status, not demoting Jesus. Either way, Jude 4 calls Jesus our "only Master and Lord" in the same letter.

Jude 9 and Zechariah 3:2: the Michael-Jesus identification actually requires exalting Michael to deity