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Scripture Commentary article 2022-11-25

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Women Leaders in the New Testament (PART A)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 4 on women leaders in the New Testament (Part A)

1 Cor. 12:1–30 1 Corinthians 1:11 1 Corinthians 1:16 Women in Leadership Complementarianism Debates
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-11

@Sim_Cekiso @MikeWingerii I didn’t claim that. My comment could have been worded

@Sim_Cekiso @MikeWingerii I didn’t claim that. My comment could have been worded clearer. My point being he agrees with women deacons because of Pheobe without any requirements for them since he think

1Ti 3:11-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-11

@MikeWingerii @th3muse Question for @MikeWingerii: if 1Ti 3:1-13 doesn’t apply t

@MikeWingerii @th3muse Question for @MikeWingerii: if 1Ti 3:1-13 doesn’t apply to female deacons then where are the requirements for female deacons? Genuinely curious.

1Ti 3:1-13 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-11

@ryantylervo @MikeWingerii Curious what I said that you interpreted as rude? Mike misunderstood my comment as I wasn’t clear enough. I already knew he supports female deacons. As for “speaking for Mike,” his teaching is public and I don’t need his ...

@ryantylervo @MikeWingerii Curious what I said that you interpreted as rude? Mike misunderstood my comment as I wasn’t clear enough. I already knew he supports female deacons. As for “speaking for M

question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-11

@MikeWingerii What I find curious is what you think are the requirements for fem

@MikeWingerii What I find curious is what you think are the requirements for female deacons since as I understand you believe that the requirements listed in 1Ti 3:1-10,12-13 don’t apply to women and

1Ti 3:1-10 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-11

@MikeWingerii Mike, I didn’t say that you don’t support female deacons, but I ca

@MikeWingerii Mike, I didn’t say that you don’t support female deacons, but I can see how you might have got this from my comment. https://t.co/IdHPLHUmcY

debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-11

@JonKismetCalvin @th3muse @MikeWingerii He uses a translation that says "Their wives" instead. I don't think he concludes that v11 is referring to the inclusion of women as deacons, but that this verse speaks about the wives of deacons. His justifica...

@JonKismetCalvin @th3muse @MikeWingerii He uses a translation that says "Their wives" instead. I don't think he concludes that v11 is referring to the inclusion of women as deacons, but that this vers

debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike's advice for those who don’t want to have female deacons? Then they should

Mike's advice for those who don’t want to have female deacons? Then they should reserve the title only for positions you believe woman cannot have. /54

question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-01

Will be interesting where Mike draws the lines for his version of complementaria

Will be interesting where Mike draws the lines for his version of complementarianism. Will he allow female deacons even though the statement “one wife husband” is stated for both elders and deacons?

question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-15

@iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii You are exactly right. I don’t understand how Mike allo

@iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii You are exactly right. I don’t understand how Mike allows female deacons and not elders. Perhaps he can’t deny that there were female deacons like Phoebe.

general
Theology verse entry

Psalm 109:8

Sections: cross_references, exegesis, greek_analysis

Psalm 109:8 apostolate,office,episkope,Matthias,Judas,replacement
Theology verse entry

Romans 16:1-7

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Romans 16:1-7 Phoebe,Junia,deacon,apostle,prostatis,patron,women leaders,egalitarian,episemos,women apostles
Theology verse entry

Acts 1:16-26

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Acts 1:16-26 Judas,betrayal,foreknowledge,sovereignty,prophecy fulfillment,predestination,free will,apostolate,Matthias,Paul,twelve,lot,human initiative
Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 3:8-13

Sections: exegesis

1 Timothy 3:8-13 deacons,women deacons,gynaikas,likewise,hosautos,diakonos,phoebe,women leadership,huebner
Theology greek term

ἐπισκοπή (episkopē)

office, oversight, supervision

greek
Mike Winger idea 2022-04-13

Transition to deacons: eldership is male; deacons are the question

Mike frames the deacon discussion.

eldership women deacons deacons
Mike Winger idea 2022-04-13

Two reasons for women deacons and three counter-arguments

Mike lays out the debate structure on women deacons.

Romans 16:1-2 1 Timothy 3:11 Acts 6 women deacons Phoebe Romans 16:1-2
Mike Winger idea 2022-04-13

Belleville's third footnote: Philippians 2:19-30 -- all males, no women deacons

Mike checks the third footnoted passage.

Philippians 2:19-30 Linda Belleville Discovering Biblical Equality scholarly methodology
Mike Winger idea 2022-04-13

Argument for women deacons: the word 'likewise' creates a three-part structure (elders, deacons, women)

Mike builds the case for reading verse 11 as female deacons.

1 Timothy 3:11 women deacons 1 Timothy 3:11 hosautos (likewise)
Mike Winger idea 2022-04-13

The word 'deaconess' didn't exist yet; Paul used 'gunaikas' because no feminine term was available

Mike explains why Paul didn't use a feminine deacon term.

1 Timothy 3:11 church history 1 Timothy 3:11 diakonos
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-09

Female deacons in the early church focused on ministry to women

Mike provides historical evidence for gender-specific ministry roles.

women's ministry female deacons Apostolic Constitutions
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-09

Mike's conclusions on women's roles: high view of women but not apostles

Mike begins his summary conclusions for the video.

soft complementarianism female deacons women's roles in NT
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-09

Pushback from previous video on female deacons and 1 Timothy 3:8-13

Mike responds to viewer objections about women as deacons.

1 Timothy 3:8-13 1 Timothy 3:8-13 deacon qualifications female deacons
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-09

Verses 12-13 are about men, verse 11 is about women — not gender neutral

Mike clarifies the structure of the 1 Timothy 3 passage on deacons.

1 Timothy 3:11 Romans 16:1 1 Timothy 3:12-13 Phoebe husband of one wife 1 Timothy 3:11
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-09

Pliny's letter to Trajan: early evidence of female deaconesses (c. 110 AD)

Mike provides extra-biblical historical evidence for female deacons.

Pliny the Younger Emperor Trajan Pliny's letter to Trajan
Mike Winger idea 2022-07-18

Church history conclusion: the church has virtually always agreed that headship means authority and that eldership is male-only

Mike summarizes the church history argument.

church history male eldership female deacons