Where Mike Winger Went Wrong on Women

Comprehensive response to the entire Mike Winger Women in Ministry video series (Parts 1-13)

The Debates Over 1 Timothy 2

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the debates over 1 Timothy 2:11-15

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: “Women Keep Silent” (1 Cor 14:34–35)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 11 on 'women keep silent' in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Women Leaders in the New Testament (PART A)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 4 on women leaders in the New Testament (Part A)

The Giving Part 2: Judas the Betrayer, a Balanced View of the Sovereignty of God

[Music] the giving is a balanced view of the sovereignty of God God's sovereignty is vitally important for us to know God yet it's God's sovereignty taught as a system of theological thought which can lead to a person reading into the biblical text an outside concept that is foreign to the writers i...

Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free? Parts 5-7: 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 3, Galatians 3:28

[Music] the women are to keep silent in the churches for they are not permitted to speak but are to subject themselves just as the law also says if they desire to learn anything let them ask their own husbands at home for it is improper for a woman to speak in church 1 Corinthians 14 has been a diff...

Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free? Part 3: Head Coverings and Authority - 1 Corinthians 11

[Music] 1 Corinthians 11 has been a difficult chapter throughout church history there are some things that are hard to understand about this passage but using an understanding of the Jewish mindset will help us unravel Paul's reasoning let's start at verse three but I want you to understand that Chr...

Repost Authority Vs Submission A Biblical View Of Ephesians 522

My original 2010 post crashed because there were too many comments for my blog to handle, so I am putting up this post again so that people can read the article which is no longer available because of the crash. Thanks to one of my readers who asked me to repost

The Humble God

In our past discussions on Ephesians 5:21-22, we have been discussing the issues of mutual submission and whether there is authority in marriage. In this post, we will discuss the foundation of humility

Submission And Origin Of Authority

When is authority given and when can it be rightfully assumed. These are questions that have divided egalitarians and complementarians in the area of marriage

Authority Vs Submission Biblical View

Yesterday I received two polar opposite views of Ephesians 5:22 by email. One was from “NN” who has responded here in the past

T4G Comp Tied To Gospel

The 2010 Together for the Gospel conference is on right now as I write this article. The conference this year is called The Unadjusted Gospel and according to J

Womens Speaking Dishonors Men

Another common objection to women in ministry is the claim that when women speak and lead publicly it dishonors men

1 Peter 3 6 Obey

How does 1 Peter 3:5, 6 with the Bible’s use of the word “obey” affect wives and in particular women in ministry

Was 1 Timothy 2 Written To The Church

Complementarians claim that 1 Timothy 2:12 is universally applicable because they say it was written for the church to know how to behave. According to John MacArthur, in God’s High Calling for Women part 1 , 1 Timothy was written to “set the church in order”

Helpful Sites For Research On Egalitarian Views

I was also asked to have a place where we could list good blogs/web sites that promote godly views about women in ministry or issues of egalitarian marriage, etc. This post will be the permanent place to place links

Equal But Different Deteriorates To An Unequal Trinity

The term “equal but different” has become a catch phrase in marriage and “women in ministry” issues as it has replaced the pre-1970’s common view of the inferiority of women. In complementarian circles the thought is that women are equal in person but different in role

Women Teaching Mens Prejudice And Gods Glory

Many complementarians have been so used to hearing what women are not allowed to do in the body of Christ rather than what scripture says women should do as followers of Christ, that the focus has become automatically set to see restrictions when the subject of women in ministry is discussed. With t

Spiritual Gifts A Means Of Unity

In Ephesians chapter four Paul gives us a glimpse of what the gifts of the Holy Spirit are meant for. Paul starts out with humility, tolerance and love:

@RealDavidReece "Wives, be subject to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord" (Col 3:18). The phrase “as is fitting in the Lord” reframes submission not as blind obedience but as a voluntary, Christlike humility grounded in love and respect. It re...

@RealDavidReece "Wives, be subject to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord" (Col 3:18). The phrase “as is fitting in the Lord” reframes submission not as blind obedience but as a voluntary, Chris

@MikeWingerii Lewis rightly pointed out that pride could be the ‘great sin.’ This applies as much to those inside the church as outside. It’s crucial church leaders ensure they lead with humility and not fall into the trap of pride, thinking they are...

@MikeWingerii Lewis rightly pointed out that pride could be the ‘great sin.’ This applies as much to those inside the church as outside. It’s crucial church leaders ensure they lead with humility and

@Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @5cd5945b24ec495 @GarOHoff @StanfieldBrent1 @Idolkiller His attitude of humility was in His posturing not in His divesting Himself of His divine abilities. Submitting Himself to the cross is precisely the point that script...

@Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @5cd5945b24ec495 @GarOHoff @StanfieldBrent1 @Idolkiller His attitude of humility was in His posturing not in His divesting Himself of His divine abilities. Submitting Himse

@GetoD6812 @pastherandie Those passages only forbid if you read them in complete

@GetoD6812 @pastherandie Those passages only forbid if you read them in complete isolation to the rest of Paul’s letter. You need to go learn some humility and stop teaching what you don’t understand

@snarkytwinkie @TheMuppetPastor It seems not all men are designed with the requi

@snarkytwinkie @TheMuppetPastor It seems not all men are designed with the requisite humility.

@aflawedmanofGod @M_Jensen23 @ortrails @goteamcarr Brother, the call to listen to the Bible with an ounce of humility goes both ways. The call to not be led by feelings also goes both ways, as those who are accustomed to patriarchal culture feel mor...

@aflawedmanofGod @M_Jensen23 @ortrails @goteamcarr Brother, the call to listen to the Bible with an ounce of humility goes both ways. The call to not be led by feelings also goes both ways, as those

@E_C_Onugha @tolusefrancis @Zeeleciouz @Solomon_Buchi I’m not looking for your confirmation. Mutual submission is all over the New Testament. 1.Phil 2:3-4 - “Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above...

@E_C_Onugha @tolusefrancis @Zeeleciouz @Solomon_Buchi I’m not looking for your confirmation. Mutual submission is all over the New Testament. 1.Phil 2:3-4 - “Do nothing out of selfish ambition or va

@tolusefrancis @Zeeleciouz @Solomon_Buchi However, when someone lays their life down for others, this is the ultimate act of submission. "Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility consider one another as more important than you...

@tolusefrancis @Zeeleciouz @Solomon_Buchi However, when someone lays their life down for others, this is the ultimate act of submission. "Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humili

@Mcnerd8 @William_E_Wolfe @sbcamendment @9Marks Also it is not clear instructions that all women cannot teach all men. The context and purpose of the letter, the grammar and all references are not brought together in harmony in this view. The SBC s...

@Mcnerd8 @William_E_Wolfe @sbcamendment @9Marks Also it is not clear instructions that all women cannot teach all men. The context and purpose of the letter, the grammar and all references are not br

@MadJorgen @RickWarren My goodness! This is a secondary issue! Don’t you have

@MadJorgen @RickWarren My goodness! This is a secondary issue! Don’t you have the humility to recognize you may not be correctly interpreting every passage? Even Peter said in 2 Pet 3:16 that Paul

2 Peter 3:15-16

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1 Peter 3:1-9

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Ephesians 5:18-33

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Philippians 2:3-8

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Romans 11:25-36

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Philippians 2:5-11

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John 17:5

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κενόω (kenoō)

to empty; used reflexively of Christ's self-emptying (Phil 2:7)

ταπεινοφροσύνη (tapeinophrosyne)

humility of mind, lowliness

Assuming contradiction rather than seeking harmony in ancient texts shows hubris

Mike critiques the tendency to declare contradictions rather than seeking to understand how passages fit together.

The hardest deception to see is one's own — call to humility as protection against self-deception

Mike pivots to the pastoral/epistemic lesson from Camping's case.

Temple Mount still controlled by non-Jewish Arabs — possible ongoing 'trampling by Gentiles'

Mike applies the 'times of the Gentiles' concept to the contemporary geopolitical situation.

Holding eschatological views with appropriate grip: core gospel vs. peripheral doctrines

Mike pauses to address his hermeneutical and pastoral posture toward disagreement on eschatology.

God has a future national plan for Israel, but that does not require uncritical support for every Israeli political action. Christians should be cautious about both Israeli and Palestinian media narratives.

Viewer question about pro-Palestinian Christians who vilify the modern State of Israel.

It is unwise to predict the timing of the rapture; history of failed predictions demonstrates that 'no man knows the day or the hour' is to be taken seriously — Christians should live ready rather than speculate.

Q&A section: a viewer asks how close we are to the rapture given current events.

In response to a Q&A question about calling to ministry, Winger teaches that a sense of unworthiness is right and proper — waiting for perfection would be an excuse never to serve. What matters is faithfulness and heart orientation. He cites 1 Timothy 3 on the qualifications for eldership as a practical starting point.

Proverbs 16:32 — being slow to anger and ruling one's spirit is a greater achievement than military conquest or social status.

Third Proverbs passage; Mike reframes the cultural value of strength and accomplishment.

Jim's own closing statement admits his audience should not simply believe him but verify for themselves — Mike takes this as evidence of Jim's sincerity, not dishonesty, and uses it to encourage skeptics to investigate Christian claims more seriously

Mike wraps up the refutation portion

Closing challenge to skeptics: be critical of your own criticisms — if you laugh at Christians, make sure you have good reason to; you may have adopted the dogma of your own worldview uncritically

Mike's closing remarks to both Christian and skeptic viewers

'I'm not God' means we submit to God's declared standard, not that we withhold judgment

Winger addresses Daigle's second stated reason: 'I'm not God, so I can't say.'

Philippians 2:6-8 — Jesus lived a humble, godly life and died by crucifixion

Continuing the biographical details about Jesus that Paul records.