Where Mike Winger Went Wrong on Women

Comprehensive response to the entire Mike Winger Women in Ministry video series (Parts 1-13)

The Debates Over 1 Timothy 2

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the debates over 1 Timothy 2:11-15

Why Mike Winger is Wrong About “Authenteō” in 1 Timothy 2:12 – and Why It Matters

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the meaning of authenteō in 1 Timothy 2:12

Interview With The Apostle Paul

This post will be a simulated interview with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day. We are interested in asking Paul his reasons for what he wrote about women and what he thin

@pauldirks @KaeleyT The problem is mandating that it has to be one way or the ot

@pauldirks @KaeleyT The problem is mandating that it has to be one way or the other.

@DominionDating @kdclaunch How is explaining the text serpentile? Where am I twi

@DominionDating @kdclaunch How is explaining the text serpentile? Where am I twisting scripture?

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Ok, I appreciate you updating me. Not sure what you mean by conclusion based? I'm just showing how you can have an egalitarian interpretation of this difficult passage which is Biblically faithful. Is that "conclusion bas...

@GlennDavies @danitreweek Ok, I appreciate you updating me. Not sure what you mean by conclusion based? I'm just showing how you can have an egalitarian interpretation of this difficult passage whic

1 Peter 3:1-9

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Titus 2:3-5

Sections: debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Timothy 3:1-4

Sections: greek_analysis

Exodus 1:15-22

Sections: exegesis

Numbers 12:1-15

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

ὑπακούω (hypakouō)

to listen to, to hearken, to obey

πρεσβύτερος (presbuteros)

elder, older man; church overseer/leader by seniority

צָרַעַת (ṣāraʿat)

skin disease / ritual leprosy (Lev 13-14)

Problems with Davids' reliance on the Testament of Abraham

Mike conducts detailed analysis of the extra-biblical source Davids relies on.

The cultural view is not arbitrary: five facts support it

Mike defends his position against charges of mere cultural accommodation.

Joseph Smith claims divine gifts as seer and translator; acquires Egyptian mummies and papyrus scrolls in Kirtland, Ohio

Historical background of the Book of Abraham

The papyri date to the 2nd century BC — approximately 2,000 years after Abraham's time

Core finding from the Egyptological examination of the recovered papyri

University of Munich Egyptologist calls Smith's work a probable forgery and says the text is not older than the Greek period

Additional expert scholarly critique from Munich

Summary of the leg manipulation mechanism: pivoting feet, turning ankles outward, curving toes, turning ankles inward — multiple techniques combine to create the illusion of leg growth or shrinkage.

Consolidating the technical analysis across multiple leg-lengthening videos.

Q&A: Age of the earth — Mike's honest agnosticism between young-earth and old-earth positions

Question from 'GotaMeetsix' about young-earth vs. old-earth creationism.

1 Corinthians 15:3-7 is the earliest resurrection record — within five years of the crucifixion and agreed upon by over 90% of scholars

Q&A — response to George Cook's question about the earliest scriptural record of the resurrection

Five years is not enough time for legendary development — the 500-witness claim makes legendary embellishment implausible

Mike's argument against legendary development theory using the early dating of 1 Corinthians 15

Which Gospel was written first — Mike defers to scholarly consensus and warns of the 'house of cards' nature of Gospel dating arguments

Q&A — Cam Spears's question about Gospel authorship dates

Psalm 22:16 textual debate: 'like a lion' vs. 'they pierced' — three sources support 'pierced'

Ra claims 'they pierced my hands and feet' in Psalm 22:16 is a mistranslation — the correct Hebrew is 'like a lion they were at my hands and feet'

Hebrews 2:2 confirms that Old Testament punishments were morally just retributions, not merely symbolic — validating the OT penal code as a genuine moral revelation.

Mike anticipates a possible objection that the OT law was purely symbolic and therefore its differentiated penalties do not reveal moral truths about sin.

Apollonius was born around 15 AD — meaning when Jesus was crucified, Apollonius was still a young man. His public career began after Jesus's ministry and death. More critically, all New Testament documents were written within the first century AD, within the lifetimes of eyewitnesses, while Philostratus wrote 125+ years after Apollonius died. If any borrowing occurred, Philostratus likely borrowed from Christian categories.

Textual criticism — comparing thousands of manuscript copies, locating them geographically, and dating them — has demonstrated that every New Testament book was written within the first century, much earlier than 19th-century skeptics claimed (~200s AD). It also shows the biblical text has been transmitted with remarkable fidelity.

Valid prophecy requires dateable pre-event writing. Manuscript evidence (e.g., Dead Sea Scrolls) places Isaiah and the Psalms before Jesus, making their messianic content genuine prediction rather than post-hoc composition. This distinguishes biblical prophecy from the Book of Mormon or Quran examples.

Jim's claim about Gospel dating: Mark was written 40 years after Jesus at the earliest, and John was written 100+ years after Mark — implying John is 170 AD or later

First specific claim Mike refutes

Refutation of Jim's Gospel dating: scholars date Mark to the 50s–70s AD, and John to the 60s or 90s AD — not 170 AD; P52 papyrus (100–150 AD) proves John predates Jim's claim by decades

Mike systematically dismantles the 170 AD date for John

Even Bart Ehrman — a non-Christian scholar whose goal is to undermine Christianity — dates John to 90–95 AD, not 170 AD

Mike offers a source skeptics can't dismiss as biased

Refutation: early manuscripts from well before the 13th century already contain the longer ending of Mark; the addition was likely scribal, not conciliar — probably constructed from Luke, Acts, and Matthew to give public readings a more complete feel

Mike explains the actual textual history of Mark's longer ending

Paul's letters predate the Gospels — his knowledge of Jesus is independent from them

Key methodological point: Paul's testimony cannot be derived from the Gospels since he wrote earlier.

1 Corinthians 11:23-25 — Paul 'received from the Lord' the Last Supper tradition, predating the Gospels

Paul's detailed knowledge of the Last Supper is one of the strongest demonstrations that he knew specific events from Jesus's life.

Planned Gospel of Mark series to cover theology, apologetics, and resurrection debates

Response to viewer question about where the Trinity is in Mark

Aristion and Elder John as living eyewitnesses still active during Papias's collecting period (~80-90 AD)

Evidence that direct Jesus-eyewitnesses were still alive and teaching during the Gospel-writing period.

The timing of Gospel writing corresponds to the last generation of living eyewitnesses

Argument that the Gospels were intentionally written when eyewitnesses were dying out.

Summary conclusions: multiple lines of evidence converge against community tradition view

Mike draws conclusions from the four major evidence streams.

Secular and archaeological evidence for the Exodus exists but Mike cannot present it in detail; early vs. late dating debate.

Patrick Mosher asks if there is secular historical or archaeological evidence for the Exodus.

Early attestation - all NT documents are 1st century with sources within 7 years

Arguing for early date of empty tomb testimony

Rudolf Pesch's argument on Mark's omission of Caiaphas's name

Dating Mark's source material by historical details

Mark's Aramaic phrasing 'first day of the week' vs 'third day' formula

Evidence of pre-Gospel source material

1 Corinthians 15 creed - pre-Pauline formula dated within 5 years of crucifixion

Earliest written testimony to resurrection appearances

Joseph of Arimathea - multiply attested, named, testable, criterion of embarrassment

Joseph as historical figure validating burial account

Mike's claim: philosophy rightly done points toward God and ultimately toward Christ

Mike's reflection on the relationship between philosophy and theism

1 Corinthians 15 early creed: dating, content, and the list of resurrection witnesses including Peter, James, Paul, and the 500

Establishing the early creed as the foundational evidence for resurrection appearances

Voluntarily keeping feast days or eating kosher for conscience's sake is acceptable; mandating it for others is wrong

Q&A: lularoe asks if observing feasts/clean eating condemns him

Richard Carrier's claim that all extra-biblical sources simply copy Gospel accounts is refuted by Tacitus's late date and hostile stance

Refuting Carrier's hypothesis that non-Christian sources merely echo the Gospels