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Scripture Commentary article 2023-03-09

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Women Apostles

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 5 on whether women were apostles in the New Testament

1 Corinthians 12:28 1 Corinthians 12:7 1 Corinthians 15:5 Women in Leadership Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2018-03-10

No man left behind: Jesus died for all

Did Jesus’ death leave no man left behind that was not covered by His death on the cross? For many Christians who identify as Calvinists, the gospel includes the conclusion that Jesus died only for a select group of people who were predetermined by God before the world was created.

John 5:14–16 Luke 10:31–32 Luke 10:36–37 Soteriology Calvinism Atonement
Scripture Commentary article 2012-11-16

Was John the Baptist predestined to be saved?

In the teaching of Calvinism, there is an election to salvation for some men while the rest of mankind are created without a hope of eternal life. In this understanding God has pre-determined from eternity past that all but the elect would remain in their sin and be lost forever.

Isaiah 40:3 John 1:15 John 1:29 Soteriology Calvinism Predestination & Election
Scripture Commentary article 2010-03-28

John Piper Takes Leave Of Ministry To Work On His Marriage

On March 28, 2010, complementarian John Piper announced that he is leaving ministry for a time because of several issues of pride that were affecting his soul and had taken a toll on his relationship with his wife Noël. Below is what Piper has written about his issues and his next steps

Proverbs 22 Romans 1 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2010-01-25

Two Gifts Or One

The bride of Christ has been given gifts but are teacher and pastor two gifts or one

1 Corinthians 12:28 1 Corinthians 14:12 Acts 4:11 1 Corinthians 14 Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2010-01-19

Spiritual Abuse Recovery

Last year I blogged about Dr. Barb Orlowski’s research on spiritual abuse

Nahum 16 Women in Leadership Spiritual Abuse
Scripture Commentary article 2009-12-08

Comp Spiritual Abuse

Can complementarianism ever be considered spiritual abuse. Before we can discuss this, we need to know what spiritual abuse is

Acts 4:23 Hosea 1 Matthew 23:1-2 Authority & Submission Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-11-14

Does God Prefer Men

## Is God prejudiced against women while preferring men

Hebrews 66 Leviticus 33 Proverbs 50 Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2009-09-02

Mike Seaver Cheryl Schatz 10

## Responses to question #5

1 Corinthians 10:15 1 Corinthians 12:28 1 Corinthians 14:36 Women in Leadership Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2009-06-14

Woman Called As Missionary Has Regrets

Recently, I received an email from a woman who purchased my 4 DVD set “Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free. ” and then wrote me about the impact that the DVDs had on her

Ecclesiastes 4 Hebrews 4 Malachi 13 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2009-05-23

Paul As He Pleases 9

This is the ninth in a series of simulated interviews with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day

1 Corinthians 12:11 1 Corinthians 12:17 1 Corinthians 12:18 1 Corinthians 14 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-01-09

Recovering From Spiritual Abuse

Recently I was contacted by Dr. Barb Orlowski who has compiled her research on spiritual abuse into a manuscript that will form the basis of a yet unpublished book called “Ministering Restoration: Recovering Spiritual Harmony”

Leviticus 16 Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership Spiritual Abuse
Scripture Commentary article 2008-06-09

Noodling With The Greek Grammar

While I have made a very strong point of the Greek grammar in 1 Timothy 2:15 with the singular “she” and the plural “they” (no specific gender for “they”), some have been trying hard to wiggle out of the implications that Paul is referring to a specific woman because the only living person at that t

1 Peter 4:11 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2:15 1 Timothy 2 Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2008-06-07

Is Ordination A Requirement

Recently one of my blog posts has garnered some interesting comments regarding the issue of ordination. At the same time I received a request from a lady who believes that she has been called by God into ordained ministry

1 Peter 4:11 Ephesians 4:11 Ephesians 4:7 Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-06-10

@JonByers186054 @dalepartridge Is Jesus not the greatest of them all? Yet He lived by example by becoming a slave of all. He always asked people before healing them. Why ask? When someone said to tell their brother to do something Jesus said “who mad...

@JonByers186054 @dalepartridge Is Jesus not the greatest of them all? Yet He lived by example by becoming a slave of all. He always asked people before healing them. Why ask? When someone said to tell

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-26

@noetic_healing How am I a “simp”? You don’t serve your wife? I have 3 adult kid

@noetic_healing How am I a “simp”? You don’t serve your wife? I have 3 adult kids and have been married for 28 years.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-08-05

@DMurzea @NeilShenvi Jesus didn't exclude Gentiles in His healing ministry. I'm

@DMurzea @NeilShenvi Jesus didn't exclude Gentiles in His healing ministry. I'm not sure what you are really trying to get at here.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-02

@Unashamed_Chuck That’s right—not *all* are teachers. But we are told to earnestly desire the greater gifts. "Now you are Christ’s body, and individually parts of it. And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teache...

@Unashamed_Chuck That’s right—not *all* are teachers. But we are told to earnestly desire the greater gifts. "Now you are Christ’s body, and individually parts of it. And God has appointed in the chu

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Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 2:11-15

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Timothy 2:11-15 specific woman,deception,authenteo,grammar,perfect tense,future tense,anaphoric,egalitarian,ephesus,teknogonia,singular plural,historical perfect,verbal aspect,paul as pattern
Theology verse entry

1 Corinthians 12:28

Sections: debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Corinthians 12:28 apostles prophets teachers
Theology verse entry

Numbers 12:1-15

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Numbers 12:1-15 Miriam,Aaron,tsaraat,prophetess,female leadership,WIM,egalitarian,Moses unique mediator,Deborah,Huldah,Micah 6:4
Theology verse entry

John 5:18-23

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

John 5:18-23 Son equal to Father,John 5,EFS,Trinity,divine prerogatives,honor Son as Father,isos,subordinationism
Theology greek term

σῴζω (sozo)

to save

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Mike Winger idea 2022-05-30

1 Corinthians 12:28 — 'administrating' (leadership) appears as a gift distinct from the office of teacher

Mike examines another gifts list.

1 Corinthians 12:28 apostles 1 Corinthians 12:28 kubernesis (administrating)
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-30

1 Corinthians 12:8-11 — speaking gifts (word of wisdom, word of knowledge, tongues, interpretation) seem available to women by analogy with prophecy

Mike examines another gifts list and finds it would be arbitrary to say women can prophesy but not have other speaking gifts.

1 Corinthians 12:8-11 1 Corinthians 12:8-11 word of wisdom word of knowledge
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-30

1 Corinthians 12:29-30 — Paul's rhetorical questions show not everyone is supposed to teach

Mike cites Paul's own words against the idea that all Christians should have a teaching ministry.

1 Corinthians 12:29-30 Philip Payne teaching ministry 1 Corinthians 12:29-30
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

The Numbers 12 passage is actually about God rebuking Miriam for usurping Moses's authority, not about her valued leadership.

Exegesis of Numbers 12

Numbers 12 Moses Miriam Numbers 12
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Jesus' use of Sabbath examples to push back against over-application

Mike draws a parallel between Jesus pushing back on Pharisees' Sabbath rules and gender role over-application.

John 7:23 Matthew 12 John 7:23 Matthew 12 Sabbath healing
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

Introduction: purpose is biblical analysis of Bill Johnson, Kris Vallotton, and the broader Bethel movement

Opening segment establishing scope and methodology of the livestream

Bill Johnson Kris Vallotton Bethel Church
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

Mike's charitable assessment: he believes Bill Johnson and Kris Vallotton are probably saved, and that real miracles and healings do come from the movement

Mike establishes a baseline of charitable Christian evaluation before critique

Bill Johnson Kris Vallotton salvation
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

Bethel's gospel is mostly intact but distorted by the addition of physical healing as a central gospel promise

Mike assesses the core gospel content at Bethel

Bill Johnson gospel healing
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

Bill Johnson quotes Galatians 1 anathema to condemn anyone who teaches that sickness can be God's will — including Paul's thorn in the flesh interpretations

Mike plays and analyzes a provocative Bill Johnson video on the anathema of Galatians 1

Galatians 1:8-9 2 Corinthians 12:7-9 Bill Johnson Galatians 1:8-9 2 Corinthians 12:7-9
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

Book of Job handled dismissively by the Bethel movement: Johnson's position is 'Job is the question, Jesus is the answer'

Mike discusses how the movement deals with the theological challenge posed by the book of Job

Bill Johnson hermeneutics healing theology
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

Bill Johnson Q&A answer on whether God causes sickness: 'You can't give what you don't have — God doesn't have cancer, so He can't give it'

Mike plays and critiques a specific Q&A response from Bill Johnson

1 Samuel 5:6 Bill Johnson thorn in the flesh healing theology
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

Revelation 2:22-23 — Jesus threatens to cast a false teacher into a sick bed and kill her followers: direct scriptural refutation of Johnson's 'God cannot give sickness' claim

Mike cites a key New Testament text to disprove Johnson's theology from within the very Jesus-focused framework Johnson uses

Revelation 2:22-23 Bill Johnson healing theology Revelation 2:22-23
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

Examining 'Jesus-only' theology on its own terms: if we take only Jesus' three-and-a-half years, did he teach full present-tense prosperity? Matthew 26:11 — 'The poor you will always have with you'

Mike tests Bethel's Jesus-only hermeneutic against actual teachings of Jesus

Matthew 26:11 Bill Johnson hermeneutics prosperity gospel
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

Matthew 6:10 ('on earth as it is in heaven') is the central practical scripture of Bethel's theology — they interpret it as God manifesting heaven's conditions on earth right now

Mike identifies and challenges Bethel's key proof text for their present-kingdom expectations

Matthew 6:10 Bill Johnson Matthew 6:10 kingdom of God
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

Revelation 6:16-17 and Revelation 11:15-18 show that the coming of God's kingdom involves wrath and judgment, not just signs and wonders

Mike cites specific Revelation texts to establish what Scripture means by 'the kingdom coming'

Revelation 6:16-17 Revelation 11:15-18 kingdom of God eschatology Revelation 6:16-17
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

Bethel's standard for 'heaven on earth' is too low: they aim for physical healing while Revelation 21:4 promises no death, sorrow, or pain — which has not yet come

Mike argues that Bethel's version of heaven-on-earth falls short even of its own claim

Revelation 21:4 Kris Vallotton healing theology kingdom of God
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

Nabeel Qureshi visited Bethel for healing from stomach cancer and received hundreds of failed prophecies of healing

Mike uses the case of Nabeel Qureshi as a concrete example of the consequences of Bethel's healing theology

Bethel Church healing theology Nabeel Qureshi
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

Bethel systematically lowers the threshold for confirming healings: vague words of knowledge, mass prayer, and immediate crowd celebration regardless of actual outcome

Mike explains the mechanics of how Bethel creates the appearance of widespread healing

Bill Johnson Bethel Church healing theology
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

'You lost your healing' — Bethel reframes failed healings as loss rather than non-occurrence, requiring a program on 'how to keep your healing'

Mike discusses how Bethel's theological framework handles apparent healing failures

Bethel Church anointing healing theology
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

Bill Johnson's son has significant hearing loss — Johnson says he was told the son is 'already healed' but cannot think about it because it 'ruins the anointing'

Mike uses a personal example from Bill Johnson's own family to illustrate the psychological suppression required by Bethel's healing theology

Bill Johnson anointing healing theology
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

Bill Johnson video quote: 'We're coming into a day when the presence of the Lord will be so pronounced in a meeting that everyone who walks into the building will be healed — that's already happened'

Mike plays a direct video clip of Johnson making an extreme healing claim

Bill Johnson revival healing theology
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth — a movement that tolerates and encourages fake healings is not operating in step with Him

Mike gives his theological summary on the healing practice issues

healing theology Holy Spirit Spirit of Truth
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

Summary of Bethel's theological problems: filtered theology, emphasis on experience, superior/inferior truths used to dismiss inconvenient Scripture

Mike's transition into final remarks and Q&A

Bill Johnson hermeneutics healing theology
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

John 5:19 refutes Johnson's teaching that God responds to human declarations — Jesus only did what He saw the Father doing, not the reverse

Mike cites a specific text to challenge one of Johnson's specific claims about how God responds to human proclamation

John 5:19 prayer Bill Johnson healing theology
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

Q&A — Is lack of faith why we cannot heal? Mike: faith is one factor, but not the only one — Paul's thorn in the flesh demonstrates God can say 'no' even to a man of great faith

First Q&A question from Elizabeth Hernandez

2 Corinthians 12:7-9 prayer 2 Corinthians 12:7-9 thorn in the flesh
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

Q&A — Bethel's view of sanctification through hardship: they do teach righteous living and learning through trials, but avoid applying the 'refining fire' principle to sickness

Q&A question from 'Truth and Grace'

James 1 1 Peter 1 Bill Johnson healing theology James 1
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-14

Q&A — Did Jesus ever say no to healing? Mike: Not in the three-and-a-half years of recorded ministry, but Jesus did say no through Paul's thorn and other NT instances

Q&A question from Elizabeth Hernandez

2 Corinthians 12:7-9 2 Timothy 4:20 Acts of the Apostles 2 Corinthians 12:7-9 healing theology 2 Timothy 4:20
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