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Scripture Commentary article 2024-08-08

What Mike Winger Gets Wrong on What Women Can’t Do

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 13 on what women can and can't do according to the Bible

1 Corinthians 7:5 1 Timothy 2:12 Ephesians 5:21-22 Headship & Kephale Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2024-06-19

The Debates Over 1 Timothy 2

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the debates over 1 Timothy 2:11-15

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Corinthians 10:11 1 Corinthians 12:1-11 1 Timothy 2 Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2023-03-10

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: “Women Keep Silent” (1 Cor 14:34–35)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 11 on 'women keep silent' in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35

1 Cor 14:35-36 1 Cor. 14:21 1 Corinthians 11:11 1 Corinthians 14 Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2023-01-17

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Male Headship: Is It Really Biblical?

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 8 on male headship and whether it is really biblical

1 Corinthians 11:3 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 1 Corinthians 6:18-20 Ephesians 5 1 Corinthians 11 Headship & Kephale
Scripture Commentary article 2022-11-24

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong With Genesis 1–3: ‘Was Women’s Submission Just A Curse To Be Overturned?’

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 2 on Genesis 1-3 and whether women's submission was just a curse to be overturned

1 Corinthians 11:7-10 1 Corinthians 15:22 1 Corinthians 16:15-16 Genesis & Creation Authority & Submission Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2017-06-08

Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free? Parts 5-7: 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 3, Galatians 3:28

[Music] the women are to keep silent in the churches for they are not permitted to speak but are to subject themselves just as the law also says if they desire to learn anything let them ask their own husbands at home for it is improper for a woman to speak in church 1 Corinthians 14 has been a diff...

1 Corinthians 14:12 1 Corinthians 14:13 1 Corinthians 14:26 1 Corinthians 14 Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2017-06-07

Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free? Parts 1-2: The Designer Knows Best

[Music] oh [Music] Lord why would you give me gifts that you don't allow me to use in the church just because I'm a woman why does the bible always use the term man am I important to God [Music] too why do you love boys more than girls why am I told that I can't lead in public prayer why are there s...

1 Corinthians 11:8 1 Timothy 2:13 2 Timothy 3:16 Genesis & Creation Adam & Eve Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2010-03-07

Why Was Eve Punished

In our discussions on Genesis, there has been one puzzling question. If Adam alone sinned willfully and the woman fell into sin through deception, then why did God punish Eve so severely for her sin

Colossians 2:15 Genesis 3:14 Genesis 3:15 Genesis & Creation Adam & Eve Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2009-02-20

Did God Give Up On The Woman

Many people think that God was especially hard on Eve after she was deceived by the serpent in the garden. In fact hierarchists have determined that God was so hard on Eve by punishing her with a multitude of lashes for her sin, that some might get the idea that God punished the one who was deceived

Genesis 3:14 Genesis 3:16 Genesis 3:17 Genesis & Creation Adam & Eve Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2008-09-16

The Elusive Law

1 Corinthians 14:34, 35 has been a problem passage because of two issues that stick out like a sore thumb. The first issue is the elusive law

1 Corinthians 14:34 Genesis 3:16 Isaiah 1 1 Corinthians 14 Genesis & Creation Authority & Submission
Scripture Commentary article 2008-07-11

Asking Right Questions

Have you ever found that your discussions with hierarchists goes nowhere fast because they say they have heard the egalitarian arguments before and they are not willing to listen to what you have to say. Perhaps we are missing an opportunity to engage them because we are wanting to teach them first

1 Corinthians 12:21 1 Timothy 2:12 Acts 1 1 Timothy 2 Genesis & Creation Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2006-11-15

What Women Really Want

In Genesis chapter 3 God speaks to Eve about her future. Unfortunately God’s words have been interpreted by male expositors in a way that makes God out to be a false prophet

Genesis 3:16 Genesis 3:23 Genesis 4:7 Genesis & Creation
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-08

@JoshBuice @William_E_Wolfe When you eisegete Genesis 3:16 as God establishing a

@JoshBuice @William_E_Wolfe When you eisegete Genesis 3:16 as God establishing a pattern of leadership in the home, all kinds of wrong things flow from this. https://t.co/iWB1ySMcbN

Genesis 3:16 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-05

@SadieMills19 @The_Wry_Griot @smashbaals Regarding the part from the commentary you provided regarding the law reference. Genesis 3:16 is not a commandment ("shall rule" is not in the imperative), it was spoken to the woman (so God wasn't giving Ada...

@SadieMills19 @The_Wry_Griot @smashbaals Regarding the part from the commentary you provided regarding the law reference. Genesis 3:16 is not a commandment ("shall rule" is not in the imperative), it

Genesis 3:16 general
Theology verse entry

Genesis 3:14-19

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Genesis 3:14-19 fall,curse,consequences,serpent,Eve,Adam,pain,thorns,death,not prescriptive,protoevangelium,seed of the woman,Messiah,teknogonia,desire,rule,teshuqah,mashal,egalitarian,complementarian,patriarchy
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Genesis 3:16 -- the ultimate debated passage: 'your desire shall be for/contrary to your husband, and he shall rule over you' -- translation differences examined.

Introduction to Genesis 3:16 debate

Gen 3:16 teshukah mashal
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Linda Belleville's interpretation #1: Eve's desire is for sexual intimacy, and the husband's 'rule' means sexual demands on the wife.

Egalitarian interpretation of Genesis 3:16

Linda Belleville Two Views on Women in Ministry Gen 3:16
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Mike's conclusion on Gen 3:16: Eve's desire is to rule/control her husband, but the husband will rule over her -- this is NOT a healthy or ideal situation; it's a description of the fall's consequences.

Mike's interpretation of Genesis 3:16

Gen 3:16 curse vs. prescription description vs. prescription
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Mike's key rebuttal: the egalitarian 'curse reversal' argument depends entirely on Genesis 2 having NO authority differences -- but Genesis 2 clearly does, so the argument fails.

Why the egalitarian curse-reversal argument fails

Gen 3:16 Gen 2 curse reversal
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Analogy: the curse made farming harder (thorns/thistles) but farming isn't bad; similarly, the curse made submission harder (conflict) but submission/authority isn't bad.

Analogy for understanding the curse's relationship to pre-existing good things

Gen 3:16-19 thorns and thistles analogy curse makes good things harder
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Genesis 3 recap: the curse does not initiate role distinctions; it brings difficulty into pre-existing ones.

Detailed summary of video 2 conclusions on Genesis 3

Genesis 3 Genesis 3:16 creation order Genesis 3 Genesis 3:16
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Specific examples of bad egalitarian arguments

Mike lists specific egalitarian interpretive strategies he found unconvincing.

Genesis 3:16 1 Timothy 2:12 Genesis 3:16 1 Timothy 2:12 egalitarian arguments
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Genesis 3: Marriage roles affirmed with increased difficulty post-fall, not introduced

Mike addresses Genesis 3:16 and the fall's effect on marriage roles.

Genesis 3:16 Genesis 3:16 the fall post-fall difficulty
Mike Winger idea 2022-01-28

Winger affirms husband-wife roles are equal in value but different in role, calling this 'irrefutably taught' in the NT. He rejects the word 'rule' as misleading in modern English but affirms husbands have a higher position of authority.

Q&A question asking why submission is taught as God-ordained in the NT if the husband's rule was a curse of the fall.

Genesis 3:16 Ephesians 5:22 1 Peter 3:1-6 complementarianism headship complementarianism
Pulpit sermon 2026-03-22

"Does the Bible Permit A Woman to Preach?" - Jonny Ardavanis

A question that is both sensitive and significant within the life of the church — examining God's design, the effects of the fall, qualifications for church leadership, and relevant passages.

1 Timothy 2:12-14 Genesis 1 Genesis 1:26 Women in Ministry Complementarianism 1 Timothy 2:12
Pulpit research note

Commentary: Genesis 3:16 Is Descriptive, Not Prescriptive

Ardavanis says: > "God tells Eve that as a derivative of the curse, you will desire to master your husband... Women are going to fight against God's design for male leadership." **Ge 3:16** is descr

Genesis 3:16
Pulpit research note

Commentary: Same Word for Adam and Eve — Toil, Not Gendered Punishment

Ardavanis presents Adam's and Eve's curses as distinct experiences — Adam gets "toil" working the ground, Eve gets "pain" in childbirth — as if God is using different language to describe fundamentall

Genesis 3:16-19
Pulpit research note

Commentary: "Desire" in Genesis 3:16 — She Will Want Him Despite His Betrayal

Ardavanis says that Eve's "desire" for her husband (**Ge 3:16**) is not romantic desire, and he prefers the parallel in **Ge 4:7** where sin "desires" to master Cain. But there are two problems with t

Genesis 3:16
Pulpit research note

Commentary: God Never Said She Would Want to "Overpower" Her Husband

At 11:31, Ardavanis claims that God tells Eve she is going to want to "overpower her husband" and "subvert God's design," and calls this "one of the most timeless wars waged in culture." ### God Says

Genesis 3:16; 1 Corinthians 7:3-5