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Scripture Commentary article 2024-06-19

The Debates Over 1 Timothy 2

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the debates over 1 Timothy 2:11-15

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Corinthians 10:11 1 Corinthians 12:1-11 1 Timothy 2 Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2017-06-07

Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free? Part 4: 1 Timothy 2 Deception & the First Created

[Music] 1 Timothy Chapter 2 has been a difficult passage for Bible interpreters because of several hard to understand verses yet while Paul's reasoning is thought to be somewhat obscure this chapter has been seen by some as the clearest passage that says when women are not allowed to teach or to hav...

1 Timothy 1:13 1 Timothy 2:1 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2 Adam & Eve Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2013-01-08

The Son of Man WILL give you – John 6:27

The verse that is the most ignored by Calvinists in their own proof text is John 6:27, and within the verse, in particular, a specific phrase.

John 6:26 John 6:27 John 6:28 Soteriology Calvinism John 6
Scripture Commentary article 2011-06-25

Specific Or General Woman

This post will be an expansion on the reasons why I believe that 1 Timothy 2:11-15 is about one specific woman and why a general reference to women does not line up with the grammar within the surrounding context. I will also consider the challenge to my view from the new verbal aspect theory

1 Timothy 1:13 1 Timothy 1:16 1 Timothy 2:10 1 Timothy 2 Adam & Eve Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2010-08-10

1 Timothy 215 Going Deeper

1 Timothy 2:15 has been one of the most puzzling verses to decipher throughout church history. One of the difficult things in interpreting this verse is the translator’s rendering of some difficult grammar

1 Timothy 1:5 1 Timothy 1:5-6 1 Timothy 2:14 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2010-08-03

A Woman Anaphoric

In a recent blog post , there has been some discussion on 1 Timothy 2:11, 12 in the comment section, and the question of whether “a woman” is generic woman or a specific woman. I always appreciate questions and challenges on my position as it continually pushes me to continue to do research in order

1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-09-30

Neopatriarch Once Again Fails To Refute Cheryl Schatz

## Challenging my position that 1 Timothy 2:15 is a single woman

1 Timothy 2:10 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2:11-12 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-08-05

Mike Seaver And Cheryl Schatz Discussdebate Women In Ministry 4

## Are Witnesses and Repetition needed to Prove Women may not teach the Bible

1 Corinthians 11:27 1 Corinthians 12:21 1 Corinthians 12:7 1 Timothy 2 1 Corinthians 14 Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2009-05-30

Neopatriarch Fails To Refute Cheryl

Some have wondered why “Chris” the complementarian stopped posting here. Apparently, he could not get his refutation of my work to stand in an interactive forum so he moved it over to a place where he could have the floor to himself

1 Timothy 2:10 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2:11-12 1 Timothy 2 Complementarianism Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2009-03-25

Round 4 Interview With The Apostle Paul

This post is the fourth one of a simulated interview with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day

1 Thessalonians 4:16 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-05-09

Matt Slick She They

This is a continuation of my evaluation of Matt Slick’s articles on women in ministry. Matt has been working for weeks to try to refute my interpretations

1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2:15 Amos 15 1 Timothy 2 Adam & Eve Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2007-09-30

The Rest Of The Story 1 Timothy 211 15 And Matt Slick

> Proverbs 18:17 (ESV) The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him

1 Peter 4:10 1 Peter 4:11 1 Timothy 1:13 1 Timothy 2 Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2006-12-02

What Does 1 Timothy 211 15 Mean

I was challenged to present my view of 1 Timothy 2:11-15 on another blog and I thought it would be good to summarize my view on my own blog. Here is the teaching from “Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free

1 Timothy 1:11-15 1 Timothy 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2 Adam & Eve Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-05

@3GNRTX In 1Ti 2:14, Paul says “the woman” instead of Eve—while Eve as her prototype is closely connected with this particular wife, only this Ephesian woman could be saved in the future tense if both her and her husband continue in the true faith. E...

@3GNRTX In 1Ti 2:14, Paul says “the woman” instead of Eve—while Eve as her prototype is closely connected with this particular wife, only this Ephesian woman could be saved in the future tense if both

1Ti 2:14 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-18

@ronhenzel @LynnCDell2 And by using the article in verse 14 “the woman” Paul says something that cannot apply to Eve since the “she will be saved” in 1Ti 2:15 is future tense. We know then this use of the article is anaphorically pointing to the anar...

@ronhenzel @LynnCDell2 And by using the article in verse 14 “the woman” Paul says something that cannot apply to Eve since the “she will be saved” in 1Ti 2:15 is future tense. We know then this use of

1Ti 2:15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-02

@ronhenzel @HwsEleutheroi We have "a woman" who, if she exists in the church at Ephesus, can be the anarthrous which the article is being pointed to by the article. She also fits the grammar of v15: "She (the deceived wife teaching false doctrine) w...

@ronhenzel @HwsEleutheroi We have "a woman" who, if she exists in the church at Ephesus, can be the anarthrous which the article is being pointed to by the article. She also fits the grammar of v15:

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-05

@SadieMills19 @The_Wry_Griot @smashbaals Regarding the part from the commentary you provided regarding the law reference. Genesis 3:16 is not a commandment ("shall rule" is not in the imperative), it was spoken to the woman (so God wasn't giving Ada...

@SadieMills19 @The_Wry_Griot @smashbaals Regarding the part from the commentary you provided regarding the law reference. Genesis 3:16 is not a commandment ("shall rule" is not in the imperative), it

Genesis 3:16 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-16

@PastorTSheppard @Jgrey2003 @pastordmack Gen 3:16 is not a command for Adam to rule over Eve. If it was, why did God say it to Eve? "To the woman He said..." - The word "rule" is in the imperfect. It could be considered future tense. God is sayin...

@PastorTSheppard @Jgrey2003 @pastordmack Gen 3:16 is not a command for Adam to rule over Eve. If it was, why did God say it to Eve? "To the woman He said..." - The word "rule" is in the imperfect.

Gen 3:16 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-10

@JulieParker144 “She [singular, only the deceived woman is not saved] will be saved [future tense (so cannot be Eve)] through the childbearing [definite article + noun, NOT a verb] if they [plural, the woman and her husband] continue in faith, love a...

@JulieParker144 “She [singular, only the deceived woman is not saved] will be saved [future tense (so cannot be Eve)] through the childbearing [definite article + noun, NOT a verb] if they [plural, th

1 Tim 2:15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-08

@ChristChurchTe1 @uncledando @TomBuck Notice it’s the same as masters ruling sla

@ChristChurchTe1 @uncledando @TomBuck Notice it’s the same as masters ruling slaves. Notice it’s future tense. If God wanted the man to to rule and it wasn’t a prophecy of what will happen why doesn

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-27

@SpiritofourLord @lukeappleton Do you understand this? Paul uses “the woman” in

@SpiritofourLord @lukeappleton Do you understand this? Paul uses “the woman” instead of “Eve.” “She (singular) will be saved (future tense, ie can’t be Eve) through the (definite article) childbeari

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-20

6/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 5, final) 1 Timothy 2:15 ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯ 6-1. In

6/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 5, final) 1 Timothy 2:15 ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯ 6-1. In 1 Tim 2:15, 'the woman' is said that she 'will be saved if'⎯it is in the future tense.  This cannot be Eve because Eve

1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Tim 2:15 1 Timothy 2:15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-15

@DanielFarey @MattSwiftyPerry 3/ And because he had this experience, God expected him to help Eve understand the deception and protect her. The 'she' in v15 is an anaphoric reference back to 'a woman' because Eve cannot be saved future tense. The '...

@DanielFarey @MattSwiftyPerry 3/ And because he had this experience, God expected him to help Eve understand the deception and protect her. The 'she' in v15 is an anaphoric reference back to 'a woman

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Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 2:11-15

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Timothy 2:11-15 specific woman,deception,authenteo,grammar,perfect tense,future tense,anaphoric,egalitarian,ephesus,teknogonia,singular plural,historical perfect,verbal aspect,paul as pattern
Theology verse entry

Ephesians 5:18-33

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Ephesians 5:18-33 mutual submission,kephale,source,marriage,kenosis,Spirit-filled,husbands love,wives submit,egalitarian,hupotasso,allelon,household code,head-body metaphor,agapao,self-sacrifice,great mystery,Christ and church,one flesh
Theology verse entry

Colossians 3:18-19

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Colossians 3:18-19 household code,submission,love,fitting in the Lord,mutual obligation,egalitarian
Theology verse entry

John 6:27

Sections: debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

John 6:27 soteriology,giving,future promise,bread of life,Calvinism,provisionism
Theology verse entry

John 6:37

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

John 6:37 soteriology,giving,unconditional election,Calvinism,provisionism,the giving,God-fearers
Theology verse entry

John 6:38-40

Sections: debate_points, exegesis

John 6:38-40 soteriology,will of the Father,eternal life,belief,universal scope,Calvinism,provisionism
Theology verse entry

John 6:44

Sections: debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

John 6:44 soteriology,drawing,irresistible grace,helko,inability,Calvinism,provisionism
Theology verse entry

John 6:64-65

Sections: debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

John 6:64-65 soteriology,unbelief,foreknowledge,granting,connection,Calvinism,provisionism
Theology verse entry

1 Corinthians 15:28

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Corinthians 15:28 eschatology,subjection,Son,Trinity,EFS,mediatorial kingdom,subordinationism,hypotasso
Theology greek term

σωθήσεται (sothesetai)

she will be saved

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Theology greek term

ὑποτάσσω (hypotassō)

to subject, to submit, to place under

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Theology greek term

δίδωμι (didōmi)

to give, bestow, grant, entrust

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Theology greek term

ἔρχομαι (erchomai)

to come, go, arrive

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Mike Winger idea 2023-11-22

Stanley Porter's objection: future tense 'shall be saved' doesn't work with Eve

Mike addresses Porter's argument that the future tense of sozo contradicts Eve as the subject.

Romans 5:9 1 Timothy 4:16 2 Timothy 4:18 Stanley Porter Jared August future tense objection