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Scripture Commentary article 2024-06-19

The Debates Over 1 Timothy 2

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the debates over 1 Timothy 2:11-15

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Corinthians 10:11 1 Corinthians 12:1-11 1 Timothy 2 Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2018-04-20

Was God’s Wrath Satisfied in Christ or Paid in Hell?

Was God’s wrath satisfied in Christ? If so then how can sinners suffer God’s wrath in hell? This question is one that is often asked by Calvinists to those who do not hold to the teaching of Calvinism.

1 Corinthians 2:14 Colossians 1:21 Colossians 3:3 Soteriology Calvinism Atonement
Scripture Commentary article 2017-12-08

What comes before the Giving? James White and John 6:37

What comes before the giving in John 6:37? Nothing according to Dr. James White on his October 23, 2017 podcast of the Dividing Line Program (segment starts at 1 hr 2 min 30 second mark).

1 Peter 3:15 Acts 10:1 Acts 16:14 Soteriology Calvinism John 6
Scripture Commentary article 2017-06-07

Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free? Parts 1-2: The Designer Knows Best

[Music] oh [Music] Lord why would you give me gifts that you don't allow me to use in the church just because I'm a woman why does the bible always use the term man am I important to God [Music] too why do you love boys more than girls why am I told that I can't lead in public prayer why are there s...

1 Corinthians 11:8 1 Timothy 2:13 2 Timothy 3:16 Genesis & Creation Adam & Eve Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2017-06-07

Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free? Part 4: 1 Timothy 2 Deception & the First Created

[Music] 1 Timothy Chapter 2 has been a difficult passage for Bible interpreters because of several hard to understand verses yet while Paul's reasoning is thought to be somewhat obscure this chapter has been seen by some as the clearest passage that says when women are not allowed to teach or to hav...

1 Timothy 1:13 1 Timothy 2:1 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2 Adam & Eve Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2011-06-25

Specific Or General Woman

This post will be an expansion on the reasons why I believe that 1 Timothy 2:11-15 is about one specific woman and why a general reference to women does not line up with the grammar within the surrounding context. I will also consider the challenge to my view from the new verbal aspect theory

1 Timothy 1:13 1 Timothy 1:16 1 Timothy 2:10 1 Timothy 2 Adam & Eve Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2010-04-29

Why Let Women Lead Bible Studies

CBMW (Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood) has set itself up as a go-to organization for those complementarians who have not been able to figure out from the Bible which things are allowable for women and which things are not. But does their counsel exceed the Bible

Hebrews 14 1 Corinthians 14 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-09-30

Neopatriarch Once Again Fails To Refute Cheryl Schatz

## Challenging my position that 1 Timothy 2:15 is a single woman

1 Timothy 2:10 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2:11-12 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-08-14

Ask John Piper Do Some Complementarians Deny Women Opportunities

## Do Some Complementarians deny women opportunities

Colossians 14:7 Colossians 14:8 Colossians 14:9 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-01-01

Reading The Scriptures Without A Male Bias

In the beginning God made male and female. Together they were to do God’s work on earth but unfortunately the fall happened and their work done together as equals was challenged by the man who took the sole rule for himself

1 Peter 3:3 1 Peter 3:4 1 Timothy 1:2 1 Timothy 2
Scripture Commentary article 2006-12-07

Does God Have One Unique Law Part Two

Complementarians have stated that God has a law that forbids godly Christian women from teaching correct biblical doctrine to men. This law, they say, is revealed in 1 Timothy 2:12

1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2:15 1 Timothy 2 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2006-12-02

What Does 1 Timothy 211 15 Mean

I was challenged to present my view of 1 Timothy 2:11-15 on another blog and I thought it would be good to summarize my view on my own blog. Here is the teaching from “Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free

1 Timothy 1:11-15 1 Timothy 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2 Adam & Eve Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-07-12

@VirgilWalkerOMA as a means to point to which of them is godly and should be listened to. Paul says that this is not an appropriate response to false teaching, but rather godliness should be demonstrated by good works. Going from all people, to all ...

@VirgilWalkerOMA as a means to point to which of them is godly and should be listened to. Paul says that this is not an appropriate response to false teaching, but rather godliness should be demonstra

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-07-06

@BronWen727104 @Paula_333 But then who are the 'they'? It is 'she will...if they <do things>'? What if these women were weaving jewelry into their hair to try to show who to trust because of the false teaching spreading. Paul didn't want them ...

@BronWen727104 @Paula_333 But then who are the 'they'? It is 'she will...if they <do things>'? What if these women were weaving jewelry into their hair to try to show who to trust because of th

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-02-12

@cjhormes @Eric_Conn The same place as a man’s because they are not specific. They are referring to character and godliness and ability. The “one woman man” in 1Ti 3:2 doesn’t mean must not be a woman any more than must be married else Paul is disqua...

@cjhormes @Eric_Conn The same place as a man’s because they are not specific. They are referring to character and godliness and ability. The “one woman man” in 1Ti 3:2 doesn’t mean must not be a woman

1Ti 3:2 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-02-11

@theOutlawJW1 @Eric_Conn Qualifications are related to godliness and character,

@theOutlawJW1 @Eric_Conn Qualifications are related to godliness and character, not things that you cannot change like whether you are male or female, Jewish or Gentile, slave or free, etc. Further,

1Ti 3:2 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-01-13

@smashbaals Jesus nor the apostles taught 2 or 3 and 1 and 4 applies to everyone. In fact Jesus said, “All those who take up the sword [or firearms] will perish by them” and “not by might nor by power but by My Spirit” (Zc 4:6) Paul writes that god...

@smashbaals Jesus nor the apostles taught 2 or 3 and 1 and 4 applies to everyone. In fact Jesus said, “All those who take up the sword [or firearms] will perish by them” and “not by might nor by powe

Zc 4:6 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-02

@JoanBandy @mikeproverbs10 @patriot49029471 @smashbaals Wasn’t the elaborate hair adornment a way to convey status and perhaps how some of the women were trying to get others to listen to them instead of the false teachers? Why do you assume it’s abo...

@JoanBandy @mikeproverbs10 @patriot49029471 @smashbaals Wasn’t the elaborate hair adornment a way to convey status and perhaps how some of the women were trying to get others to listen to them instead

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-22

@JollyStine @AVER735 @BenZeisloft But still there isn’t anything on the record to say what the women were specifically teaching and why the men were using their prayers to argue. And Paul doesn’t tell the women who are claiming godliness to have s3x ...

@JollyStine @AVER735 @BenZeisloft But still there isn’t anything on the record to say what the women were specifically teaching and why the men were using their prayers to argue. And Paul doesn’t tell

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-19

@Katiemix87 @sarahrzaremba @nakedpastor All of that is completely fine. What I s

@Katiemix87 @sarahrzaremba @nakedpastor All of that is completely fine. What I sensed @nakedpastor was meaning based on his recent posts is that I should retain my identity if I am gay (for instance).

general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-07

@ScottCross_8 @MegaChurchMouse @CatherineMcNiel @William_E_Wolfe Yes, women with

@ScottCross_8 @MegaChurchMouse @CatherineMcNiel @William_E_Wolfe Yes, women with the requisite character and ability to teach can serve as elders. The rest should copy their character and godliness.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-11

@Christ_Polygyny @BibleBashed More head in the patriarchy sand. Are you one of those fans of Gothard’s umbrellas within the umbrellas that do nothing? What the Bible says: “For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all th...

@Christ_Polygyny @BibleBashed More head in the patriarchy sand. Are you one of those fans of Gothard’s umbrellas within the umbrellas that do nothing? What the Bible says: “For physical training is

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-27

@thee_ppd @BenZeisloft That was Paul dealing with those who said you had to be circumcised to be saved. Read what Paul said to the women. Paul advises women to focus on inner godliness rather than external adornment. He suggests that a woman's true...

@thee_ppd @BenZeisloft That was Paul dealing with those who said you had to be circumcised to be saved. Read what Paul said to the women. Paul advises women to focus on inner godliness rather than e

general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-27

@BenZeisloft If the apostle Paul saw your posts, I think he would write something like the following to you: "Likewise, I urge men to present themselves not with excessive displays of muscularity or feats of strength, as if godliness were a matter o...

@BenZeisloft If the apostle Paul saw your posts, I think he would write something like the following to you: "Likewise, I urge men to present themselves not with excessive displays of muscularity or

general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-11

@BenZeisloft Physical fitness has some value but the emphasis ought to be on wha

@BenZeisloft Physical fitness has some value but the emphasis ought to be on what has lasting value. “For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise f

1 Tim 4:8 debate
Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 1:13-16

Sections: cross_references, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Timothy 1:13-16 mercy,ignorance,pattern,hybristEs,paul,blasphemer,persecutor,violent aggressor,deception,egalitarian,restoration
Theology verse entry

Titus 2:3-5

Sections: debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Titus 2:3-5 older women,teaching,presbutidas,domestic myths,egalitarian,women in ministry
Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 3:1-4

Sections: greek_analysis

1 Timothy 3:1-4 elder,overseer,pastor,qualifications,women,tis,husband-of-one-wife,polygamy
Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 2:1-7

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Timothy 2:1-7 prayer,intercession,one mediator,ransom,antilytron,false teaching,Ephesus,universalism of scope,paraggelia,herald,apostle,teacher,egalitarian,soteriology,atonement,unlimited atonement,Calvinism,mediation
Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 2:8-10

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Timothy 2:8-10 prayer,men,women,anger,dissension,modesty,good works,kosmios,sophrosyne,aidos,likewise,Ephesus,false teaching,egalitarian,plural to singular transition
Theology verse entry

Romans 11:25-36

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis

Romans 11:25-36 Israel,olive tree,hardening,mercy to all,election,doxology,soteriology
Theology verse entry

Titus 2:11

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis

Titus 2:11 grace,salvation,universal atonement,unlimited atonement,soteriology
Theology greek term

θεοσέβεια (theosebeia)

godliness, reverence for God

greek
Theology greek term

πρεσβύτερος (presbuteros)

elder, older man; church overseer/leader by seniority

greek
Mike Winger idea 2022-08-15

Submission as character quality, not just cultural convenience

Mike draws out additional reasons from 1 Peter 3 that submission is about inner character.

1 Peter 3:3-5 1 Peter 3:3-5 gentle and quiet spirit holy women of old
Mike Winger idea 2018-04-18

2 Peter 3:8 in context: the passage teaches God's patience and the unexpectedness of judgment — not a mathematical formula for calculating dates

Mike reads 2 Peter 3:8-11 in full to demonstrate that Camping's formula rips the verse from its actual argument.

Psalm 90:4 2 Peter 3:8-11 Second Coming hermeneutics Harold Camping
Mike Winger idea 2017-12-27

Tip 4: Three specific areas to evaluate — godliness, relationships, and responsibilities

Fourth of seven tips. Mike defines the domains of life to assess in annual review.

self-examination responsibility godliness
Mike Winger idea 2017-12-27

Matthew 6:33 — 'Seek first the kingdom of God' as the foundation for prioritizing godliness above all else

Biblical grounding for making godliness the top priority in annual evaluation.

Matthew 6:33 godliness priorities Matthew 6:33
Mike Winger idea 2018-03-14

James's 'works' are not Catholic sacraments — they are practical Christian obedience (tongue, helping the poor, staying unspotted from the world)

Clarifying what 'works' means in James, contrasted with Catholic sacramental works

James 1:22-27 Catholicism James 1:22-27 works
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-14

Q&A: Controlling anger toward someone consistently hurting you does not mean passivity — it means replacing anger as your motive with wisdom and godliness.

First Q&A question; addressing ongoing relational harm.

wisdom relationships Q&A
Mike Winger idea 2020-09-04

1 Timothy 2:9 is not a strict prohibition on jewelry but a tendency warning against valuing external beauty over godliness

Exposition of 1 Timothy 2:9 in the context of Paul's instruction to women about conduct in the church.

1 Timothy 2:9 godliness 1 Timothy 2:9 jewelry
Mike Winger idea 2020-09-04

Culture's gospel of external beauty is antithetical to the Christian emphasis on inner godly character

Application of the 1 Tim 2:9 principle to contemporary women's ministry and culture.

1 Timothy 2:9 cultural critique women's ministry 1 Timothy 2:9
Mike Winger idea 2020-09-18

Old Testament sacrifices seasoned with salt — salt as covenant symbol and godly character

Question from Molly Thompson about the spiritual/messianic meaning of salting OT sacrifices.

Mark 9:49-50 Old Testament typology discipleship
Mike Winger idea 2020-10-09

Pastoral preparation — character and godliness are the primary qualifications

Question from Jared Garrity about preparing for pastoral ministry

1 Timothy Titus 1 Timothy elder qualifications Titus
Mike Winger idea 2021-02-26

Romans 11:25-32 — partial hardening of Israel, fullness of the Gentiles, and end-times caution

Trevor T asks about Romans 11:25-32 and whether the rising number of Messianic Jews in Israel signals prophetic fulfillment.

Romans 11:25-32 eschatology Messianic Jews prophetic fulfillment
Mike Winger idea 2021-03-19

Distinguishing the Holy Spirit's burden from personal obsession

Listener Keys of the Kingdom wonders whether concern about a friend who broke contact is the Spirit's prompting or personal obsession.

Titus 2 Discerning the Holy Spirit Obsession vs divine prompting Good works
Mike Winger idea 2020-02-12

Q&A: How to test if a financial blessing is from God. Look at whether it came through godliness, follow biblical prayer principles (asking in God's will, not selfish motives), and use money to seek God's kingdom first.

Q&A — financial blessings and stewardship

prayer prayer financial stewardship
Mike Winger idea 2024-10-04

No Persecution = No Godliness?: 2 Tim 3: 12 says, “All who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.” I’m not being persecuted. Does this mean I’m not living a godly life?

Q&A question: No Persecution = No Godliness?

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