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Scripture Commentary article 2008-11-07

Modern Myths About The Titus 2 Woman

When the issue of women in ministry is brought up, one of the scripture passages that is used as a slam-dunk women-must-stay-in-the-home passage is Titus 2:3-5. Is this passage really about women restricted to the area of the home with cooking, cleaning and raising children, or are women allowed by

1 Timothy 3:11 1 Timothy 5:14 Esther 2 Authority & Submission Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-18

@slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale In Tit 2:3-5, what in particular suggests to you that the older women are not to be teachers of men, pastors or elders? Does Paul say that they must ONLY teach younger wives? The point about them working at...

@slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale In Tit 2:3-5, what in particular suggests to you that the older women are not to be teachers of men, pastors or elders? Does Paul say that they must ONLY te

Tit 2:3-5 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-28

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy Just as the older men should instruct the younger men and lead by example, so also the older women should instruct the younger women and lead by example. But women teach males too. Women taught Timothy theology and were the...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy Just as the older men should instruct the younger men and lead by example, so also the older women should instruct the younger women and lead by example. But women teach mal

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-24

@GodistheGoal @FlammablePink @GeauxGabrielle @myteacherafreak @MissBNasty Tit 2:3-5 says that older women likewise are to be reverent (just like the men are to be), not malicious gossips (just like men shouldn't be), not enslaved to much wine (same a...

@GodistheGoal @FlammablePink @GeauxGabrielle @myteacherafreak @MissBNasty Tit 2:3-5 says that older women likewise are to be reverent (just like the men are to be), not malicious gossips (just like me

Tit 2:3-5 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-10

@sparkobuzzer @ronhenzel Also, when Ron quotes Titus 2:3-5 seemingly to suggest that the role of older women is solely to teach younger women, does he not forget that it was older women who taught Timothy? “For I am mindful of the sincere faith with...

@sparkobuzzer @ronhenzel Also, when Ron quotes Titus 2:3-5 seemingly to suggest that the role of older women is solely to teach younger women, does he not forget that it was older women who taught Tim

Titus 2:3-5 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-08

@freedom4alltime Yes, this is a problem, but it isn’t due to one gender⎯ and yes

@freedom4alltime Yes, this is a problem, but it isn’t due to one gender⎯ and yes the older women should be involved in mentoring the younger ones, older men mentoring the younger. Yet the gifts are al

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-07

@JollyStine @MegaChurchMouse @CatherineMcNiel @William_E_Wolfe Yes...and notice how Paul says in Titus 2:3, "Older women likewise..."⎯did Paul mean that only older men are to be temperate, dignified, self-controlled, sound in faith in love and in per...

@JollyStine @MegaChurchMouse @CatherineMcNiel @William_E_Wolfe Yes...and notice how Paul says in Titus 2:3, "Older women likewise..."⎯did Paul mean that only older men are to be temperate, dignified,

Titus 2:3 1 Tim 3:11 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-06

@CatherineMcNiel @MegaChurchMouse @William_E_Wolfe Titus 2:3-5 primarily addresses older women, instructing them to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, and so train the young women to love t...

@CatherineMcNiel @MegaChurchMouse @William_E_Wolfe Titus 2:3-5 primarily addresses older women, instructing them to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach wh

Titus 2:3-5 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-06

@Vicar0fChrist @Brian_Sauve That older women are to instruct younger women in pr

@Vicar0fChrist @Brian_Sauve That older women are to instruct younger women in proper conduct does not exempt them from Jesus’ command to also teach them to obey everything that He commanded His discip

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Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 2:11-15

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Timothy 2:11-15 specific woman,deception,authenteo,grammar,perfect tense,future tense,anaphoric,egalitarian,ephesus,teknogonia,singular plural,historical perfect,verbal aspect,paul as pattern
Theology verse entry

Revelation 2:14

Sections: exegesis, greek_analysis

Revelation 2:14 Balaam false teaching didasko
Theology verse entry

Revelation 2:20

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis

Revelation 2:20 Jezebel false prophetess didasko
Theology verse entry

1 Corinthians 12:28

Sections: debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Corinthians 12:28 apostles prophets teachers
Theology verse entry

Psalm 109:8

Sections: cross_references, exegesis, greek_analysis

Psalm 109:8 apostolate,office,episkope,Matthias,Judas,replacement
Theology verse entry

Titus 2:3-5

Sections: debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Titus 2:3-5 older women,teaching,presbutidas,domestic myths,egalitarian,women in ministry
Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 3:1-4

Sections: greek_analysis

1 Timothy 3:1-4 elder,overseer,pastor,qualifications,women,tis,husband-of-one-wife,polygamy
Theology verse entry

Acts 1:16-26

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Acts 1:16-26 Judas,betrayal,foreknowledge,sovereignty,prophecy fulfillment,predestination,free will,apostolate,Matthias,Paul,twelve,lot,human initiative
Theology verse entry

Titus 2:11

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis

Titus 2:11 grace,salvation,universal atonement,unlimited atonement,soteriology
Theology greek term

διδάσκω (didasko)

to teach

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Theology greek term

ἐπισκοπή (episkopē)

office, oversight, supervision

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Theology greek term

πρεσβύτιδας (presbutidas)

older women, female elders

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Theology greek term

πρεσβύτερος (presbuteros)

elder, older man; church overseer/leader by seniority

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Mike Winger idea 2022-04-13

1 Timothy 5:1-2: 'older women' does not mean women elders; equivocation fallacy

Mike addresses another passage sometimes cited for women elders.

1 Timothy 3 1 Timothy 5:1-2 presbuteros equivocation fallacy 1 Timothy 3
Mike Winger idea 2022-04-13

Titus 2:3: 'older women' uses a different Greek word (presbytis), not the elder office term

Mike addresses a less common egalitarian proof text.

Titus 2:3-5 presbuteros Titus 2:3-5 presbytis
Mike Winger idea 2022-04-13

Neglected biblical teaching: older people should train younger people, especially same gender

Mike draws a positive application from Titus 2.

Titus 2:3-5 Titus 2:3-5 women teaching women intergenerational mentoring
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-30

Titus 2:3-5 — older women are to teach younger women; a biblical case for women's teaching ministry outside eldership

Mike provides a scriptural example of women teaching in appropriate contexts.

Titus 2:3-5 Titus 2:3-5 women's ministry women teaching
Mike Winger idea 2022-08-15

Titus 2:5 -- older women to train younger women to be submissive to husbands

Mike covers the first supplemental passage.

Titus 2:5 Titus 2:5 training younger women word of God not reviled