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Scripture Commentary article 2009-09-19

Evaluating Schatz Seaver Debate

On July 27th, 2009 Mike Seaver and I started a ten session debate on Women in Ministry where I was able to ask Mike questions on his position, he answered my questions and then we each had one response. Mike is still considering whether he will continue with another ten sessions where Mike will ask

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 1 Peter 4:10 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Corinthians 14 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-09-07

Australian Conference On Women In Ministry Cheryl Schatzs Article Now Online

My article is now up on the Australian conference for the Presbyterian church. Click here to read the article and feel free to comment

Women in Leadership Complementarianism Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2009-09-02

Mike Seaver Cheryl Schatz 10

## Responses to question #5

1 Corinthians 10:15 1 Corinthians 12:28 1 Corinthians 14:36 Women in Leadership Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2009-08-21

John Piper On Submission In Abuse

## John Piper: “What should a wife’s submission to her husband look like if he’s an abuser. ”

Authority & Submission Complementarianism Spiritual Abuse
Scripture Commentary article 2009-08-19

Mike Seaver And Cheryl Schatz Debate 6

In the last blog post Cheryl Schatz posed her third set of questions to Mike Seaver regarding their debate on women in ministry. Links to all the previous questions and responses is at the end of this post

1 Timothy 2:12 Exodus 1 Psalms 68:11 Women in Leadership Complementarianism Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2009-08-14

Ask John Piper Do Some Complementarians Deny Women Opportunities

## Do Some Complementarians deny women opportunities

Colossians 14:7 Colossians 14:8 Colossians 14:9 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-07-29

Mike Seaver And Cheryl Schatz 2

## Facing the spiritual “law” head-on from 1 Corinthians 14

1 Thessalonians 5:19-21 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Corinthians 14 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-07-27

Mike Seaver And Cheryl Schatz 1

## Building Bridges on the Women in Ministry debate

1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 3:2 Acts 2:17 Women in Leadership Complementarianism Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2009-07-24

New Debate Seaver Schatz

## New debate with Mike Seaver

Esther 5 Women in Leadership Complementarianism Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2009-07-22

Wayne Grudem 6

This is the part 6 of answering Wayne Grudem’s “ Open Letter to Egalitarians ” and his “Six Questions That Have Never Been Satisfactorily Answered”. Today I am posting his sixth question, Suzanne McCarthy’s answer and my own questions below that

1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2:15 Acts 20:30 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-07-18

Wayne Grudem 5

This is the part 5 of answering Wayne Grudem’s “ Open letter to Egalitarians ” and his “Six Questions That Have Never Been Satisfactorily Answered”. Today I am posting his fifth question, Suzanne McCarthy’s answer from the Greek and my own questions below that

1 Timothy 2:12 Amos 100 Exodus 1 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-07-05

Wayne Grudem Part 2

In my last post I copied Wayne Grudem’s “Open letter to Egalitarians”, and I listed the first question of his “Six Questions That Have Never Been Satisfactorily Answered”. Today I am posting his second question, Suzanne McCarthy’s expert Greek answer, and my own challenge after that

1 Peter 3:1 Acts 5:21 Proverbs 5:21 Ephesians 5 Authority & Submission Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2009-07-04

Wayne Grudems An Open Letter To Egalitarians

In 1998 Wayne Grudem wrote “An Open Letter to Egalitarians,” and in the letter, he gave six questions that he said have never been satisfactorily answered

Isaiah 1 Philippians 2:7 Headship & Kephale Women in Leadership Trinity
Scripture Commentary article 2009-07-03

Womens Preaching Affirmed

I recently came across a blog article by Pastor Brian Mann who although he is a complementarian, admits that God affirms women’s preaching. Mann writes:

Isaiah 4:1-2 Proverbs 1:20-21 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-05-30

Neopatriarch Fails To Refute Cheryl

Some have wondered why “Chris” the complementarian stopped posting here. Apparently, he could not get his refutation of my work to stand in an interactive forum so he moved it over to a place where he could have the floor to himself

1 Timothy 2:10 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2:11-12 1 Timothy 2 Complementarianism Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2009-05-23

Paul As He Pleases 9

This is the ninth in a series of simulated interviews with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day

1 Corinthians 12:11 1 Corinthians 12:17 1 Corinthians 12:18 1 Corinthians 14 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-05-13

Paul Women Pastors 8

This is the eighth in a series of simulated interviews with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day

1 Timothy 3:1 1 Timothy 3:1-7 1 Timothy 3:2 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-05-03

7 Paul Adam Accountability

This is the seventh in a series of simulated interviews with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day

1 Timothy 1:12 1 Timothy 1:13 2 Corinthians 11:3 Genesis & Creation Adam & Eve Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-04-19

Paul_And_Genesis

This is the sixth in a series of simulated interviews with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day

1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2:13 1 Timothy 2:14 1 Timothy 2 Adam & Eve Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2009-04-02

5 Apostle Paul They

This post is the fifth one of a simulated interview with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day

1 Timothy 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2:13 1 Timothy 2 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-03-25

Round 4 Interview With The Apostle Paul

This post is the fourth one of a simulated interview with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day

1 Thessalonians 4:16 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-03-20

Round 3 Interview With Paul On A Woman

This post is the third one of a simulated interview with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day. Doug, a strong complementarian has been given the opportunity to ask Paul about

1 Corinthians 14:23 1 Corinthians 14:24 1 Corinthians 14:25 1 Timothy 2 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-03-19

Round 2 Interview With Paul

This post is the second one of a simulated interview with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day. While Paul gets to experience life in the 21st century, Doug, a strong complem

1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2:13 1 Timothy 2:15 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-03-16

Interview With The Apostle Paul

This post will be a simulated interview with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day. We are interested in asking Paul his reasons for what he wrote about women and what he thin

1 Corinthians 14:34 1 Timothy 2:12 Hosea 16:2 1 Corinthians 14 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-02-02

Adam And His Ms Organ

The creation account has been used by many as a foundation to produce myths and stories. While this post will concentrate on modern day myths, it is also helpful to understand some of the historical myths about the creation of male and female

1 Corinthians 11:7 1 Corinthians 11:7-8 1 Corinthians 11:8 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-01-30

Man Give Woman Self Understanding

Was the first man needed to give woman her self-understanding. According to Raymond C

Genesis 2:18 Genesis 2:22 Headship & Kephale Adam & Eve Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-01-28

The Difference Between Male And Female

This is a quickie post because I couldn’t resist allowing my four year old grandson Isaac to teach us all some of the basics. Ready

Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-01-15

They Are Sinning Through Questioning

The issue of women in ministry allows us to the opportunity to ask questions about the hard passages of scripture and to work through these passages to discover God’s intended meaning through the inspired context. But in many quarters, questioning is a “sin” that will get a reprimand from a strong a

1 Peter 5:1-3 Jeremiah 23:1 Titus 1:7 Women in Leadership Complementarianism Spiritual Abuse
Scripture Commentary article 2009-01-07

Was 1 Timothy 2 Written To The Church

Complementarians claim that 1 Timothy 2:12 is universally applicable because they say it was written for the church to know how to behave. According to John MacArthur, in God’s High Calling for Women part 1 , 1 Timothy was written to “set the church in order”

1 Timothy 1:3 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2:9 1 Timothy 2 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-12-01

Do Egalitarians Twist The Scriptures

The charge is often laid that egalitarians twist the scriptures. I would like to apply a saying that I read recently

1 Corinthians 11:10 1 Corinthians 14:34 1 Corinthians 7:36 1 Timothy 2 1 Corinthians 11 1 Corinthians 14
Scripture Commentary article 2008-11-18

Galatians 328 Is It Only About Salvation

According to complementarians, Galatians 3:28 is not about equality in Christ, but about all of us being in the same “boat” of salvation. The Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood (CBMW) has made quite an effort to try to demolish Galatians 3:28 as a basis of spiritual equality outside of salvat

1 Corinthians 14:34 Exodus 3:28 Galatians 3:11 1 Corinthians 14 Complementarianism Galatians 3:28
Scripture Commentary article 2008-11-12

Spiritually Different By Design

CBMW (Council for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood) puts on conferences called “Different by Design” and in these conferences  they teach that God created men and women different for different purposes

Exodus 3:28 Spiritual Gifts Complementarianism Galatians 3:28
Scripture Commentary article 2008-11-07

Daniel Wallace Requests Rewrite

In an interesting development, complementarian Dr. Daniel Wallace, professor of New Testament studies at Dallas Theological Seminary requests a rewrite of a blog article critiquing an article he wrote on the role of women in the church for Bible

Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-10-02

Let Her Learnor Not

In our continuing discussion of 1 Corinthians 14:34-36, we come to the problematic area of learning

1 Corinthians 14:31 1 Corinthians 14:34 1 Corinthians 14:34-36 1 Timothy 2 1 Corinthians 14 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-09-30

Three Spheres Of Subordination Shrinks To Two

In my last post I pointed to USA Today’s editorial that challenged complementarians who are willing to accept a woman as the Vice President of the country, that they should admit that they are full fledged egalitarians in the realm of society, the workplace and public life

Colossians 11:7-9 Genesis 2:18 Headship & Kephale Trinity Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-09-28

Semi Egalitarians

USA Today has an editorial written by David P Gushee in which Mr. Gushee challenges complementarians that they are actually semi-egalitarians and they should be willing to openly acknowledge this

Isaiah 5 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-09-26

Unorthodox View Trinity

Wade Burleson has blogged on the Trinity and the unorthodox trend that has come into the church that teaches an eternally subordinated Son of God in the Trinity

Lamentations 2 Trinity Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-09-25

Are We Too Emotional

Are we really too emotional

Trinity Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-09-04

Ministry Produces Fear

Wade Burleson has produced a thought-provoking article about character assassination that comes as a result of fear. Wade writes :

Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-08-14

Is Complementarianism Merely Personal Conviction

This post is a response to Randy Stinson’s article titled “ Is Complementarianism a Merely Personal Conviction. “

1 Corinthians 11 1 Corinthians 11:12 1 Corinthians 7:14 Complementarianism Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2008-07-17

Eve And God

One’s world view can cause one to have presuppositions that bring set patterns of reasoning that have nothing to do with the text of scripture. One of these areas is with Eve’s relationship with God and whether God placed the man in charge of her basic knowledge

Ecclesiastes 2 Genesis 1:27 Genesis 1:28 Genesis & Creation Adam & Eve Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-07-11

Asking Right Questions

Have you ever found that your discussions with hierarchists goes nowhere fast because they say they have heard the egalitarian arguments before and they are not willing to listen to what you have to say. Perhaps we are missing an opportunity to engage them because we are wanting to teach them first

1 Corinthians 12:21 1 Timothy 2:12 Acts 1 1 Timothy 2 Genesis & Creation Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2008-05-17

Should Comps Debate

While there has been some genuine, respectful dialog between complementarian and egalitarian scholars, more often than not, the emotions that are brought into the dialog have brought less than respectful debate. The body of Christ is meant to fight the enemy together but when some turn their weapons

1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2:15 Exodus 1 1 Timothy 2 Complementarianism Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2008-05-07

Answering Matt Slicks Agenda On 1 Timothy 2:12

This is part 2 of answering the complementarian objections of Matt Slick on 1 Timothy 2:11-15. See part one here

1 Peter 4:11 1 Timothy 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2 Genesis & Creation Adam & Eve
Scripture Commentary article 2008-04-25

Partriarchy

One of the key differences between an egalitarian and a patriarchal marriage is in the area of authority and will. In a patriarchal marriage, the man is set up as the final decision maker of the home and he is given the right to make a decision for his wife even if it overrules her will

1 Corinthians 7:4 1 Corinthians 7:5 Isaiah 1 Authority & Submission Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-04-12

Helpful Sites For Research On Egalitarian Views

I was also asked to have a place where we could list good blogs/web sites that promote godly views about women in ministry or issues of egalitarian marriage, etc. This post will be the permanent place to place links

Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-03-17

Godly Complementarians And Elvis Has Left The Building

With all the hostile name-calling tactics against egalitarians rampant on the internet, godly, peace-loving complementarians may wonder what they can do in their current position to bring peace amongst the body of Christ. I am glad you asked

Spiritual Gifts Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-02-01

The Bayly Brothers And The Trinity

Awhile back I was asked to consider posting a comment on a very strong complementarian blog that is known to be rather unloving towards egalitarians. This particular blog, I found, was run by two pastors of a Presbyterian church who appear to think that egalitarians do not have the right Jesus or th

2 Timothy 2:24 2 Timothy 2:25 Ecclesiastes 2 Trinity Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-01-22

Equal But Different Deteriorates To An Unequal Trinity

The term “equal but different” has become a catch phrase in marriage and “women in ministry” issues as it has replaced the pre-1970’s common view of the inferiority of women. In complementarian circles the thought is that women are equal in person but different in role

Philippians 2:6 Philippians 2:7 Philippians 2:8 Women in Leadership Trinity Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-01-20

Gods Woman Is She Needy Of A Representative Priest Part 2

In part one, ( click here to read ) we discussed whether God created the woman as needed or needy. In this continuing discussion we ask whether God has ordained that a woman must have a priest in the home to represent her to God and God to her

1 Peter 3:10 1 Peter 3:11 1 Peter 3:7 Authority & Submission Complementarianism