Eve Usurped Adam Authority

In our continuing topic of common objections to women in ministry, we come to the claim that Eve usurped Adam’s authority when she spoke to the serpent. To deal with this claim, we will be looking at both the claim that Eve rebelled against Adam in the garden and the claim that God gave Adam a respo

Men Taken Womens Good Portion

> “…Mary has chosen the good portion, which will not be taken away from her. ”  Luke 10:41-42

Why Was Eve Punished

In our discussions on Genesis, there has been one puzzling question. If Adam alone sinned willfully and the woman fell into sin through deception, then why did God punish Eve so severely for her sin

Women More Easily Deceived

Another reason some complementarians claim for denying women opportunities to minister in the church is that it is said that women are more easily deceived than men so men alone are permitted to minister in the church. A good example of this kind of rationale is found here with this excerpt:

Adam Names Eve

One of the positions that complementarians commonly hold is that male and female were created with distinct roles so that one (the male) is said to have been given the authority over the other (the female) and the fact that Adam names Eve is used as proof of the man’s authority. CMBW (The Council on

Gods Design In Genesis

How is it that there are millions of Christians who all look to the same Genesis account yet find themselves with different and contradictory truth claims from the same account. While many conclude that man was designed in a special way that sets him above the woman with special God-given privileges

Womens Speaking Dishonors Men

Another common objection to women in ministry is the claim that when women speak and lead publicly it dishonors men

Two Gifts Or One

The bride of Christ has been given gifts but are teacher and pastor two gifts or one

Common Objections To Women In Ministry

One of the first objections to women in ministry is the fact that Jesus chose only males as his twelve apostles. If Jesus only chose men for this special “class” of people who were to be His witnesses of the resurrection, then didn’t Jesus show by this act that He does not allow women to minister in

Another Christian Organization In Canada Has Charity Status Removed

The following article was sent to me this morning by Mabel, a follower of this blog. The pastor of the church that had its charity status removed in Canada also contacted our ministry as we went through the same kind of persecution from the CRA (Canada Revenue Agency) regarding their disallowing as

Spiritual Abuse Recovery

Last year I blogged about Dr. Barb Orlowski’s research on spiritual abuse

Pastor And Team In Haiti During Earthquake

I have a great concern tonight for my Pastor. Pastor Jim Reimer and two of our worship team along with a group of teens from our local high school flew into Haiti around noon today

Using Pauls Authority

Paul’s use of “I am not allowing” in 1 Timothy 2:12 has caused a lot of speculation regarding his reasons for disallowing certain activities. In this post, we are going to look at this phrase very carefully

First Christmas God Came Through Woman

While many say that women cannot receive from God something that will benefit men (as they believe that all wisdom that God has for humanity must come through the agency of a man) may I remind us today that the Wisdom of God brought God Himself into the world through a woman. The vessel that He used

Equal In Value And Worth In Whose Eyes

One of the problems with the definitions that complementarians provide  is that the definitions aren’t complete enough on the surface to reveal the underlying hierarchical nature. However, when one pushes to get the answers to some difficult questions, the picture becomes a lot clearer

Does The Husband Alone Have Divine Wisdom

In a recent CBMW blog article, John Starke recounts Richard Baxter’s instructions for the Christian family. (Richard Baxter was a 17th century Puritan)

Putting Women In Their Place

The November 17, 2009 CBMW blog post by John Starke that we started to evaluate last post , is an amazing “piece of work” that exalts the 17th century writings of a Puritan named Richard Baxter who attempts to put women in their place. Starke continues to summarize Baxter’s writings:

How A Passion For Ministry Almost Cost C Michael Patton His Marriage

Today I read a blog post that really touched my heart because it showed the importance of mutual decision-making instead of unilateral decisions by the husband (the male trump card). I have asked and received permission from Michael Patton to post this on my blog

Can A Wifes Authority Be Overruled

## Can a wife’s authority be overruled

Comp Spiritual Abuse

Can complementarianism ever be considered spiritual abuse. Before we can discuss this, we need to know what spiritual abuse is

Only Adam

Was it Adam alone who brought sin into the world. Was it Adam alone who was kicked out of the garden

Does God Torment Women

## Is it a sin for a woman

Church Led By Woman Pastor Is Forced Out Of Gbc

On November 11, 2009, the Georgia Baptist Convention adopted a policy that ended its 148-year relationship with First Baptist Church of Decatur, Georgia. According to the Associated Baptist News ,

Does God Prefer Men

## Is God prejudiced against women while preferring men

Comp View Of 1Cor11 Mark

This post is a first. I have never before taken the writing of a complementarian and posted it on my blog

The Dark Side Of Submission

## The Dark Side of Submission

Women On Trial

I have just uploaded onto youtube 6 approximately 10-minute clips from my 2006 talk in Pennsylvania at the Witnesses Now for Jesus Conference. I have added the videos below

Southwestern Asserts Male Headship

## Southwestern Seminary and their policy of male headship

Woman Need Spritual Covering

## Does a woman need a human spiritual “covering”

Adam Rule Woman Animals

## Adam the ruler of the animals AND the woman

Neopatriarch Once Again Fails To Refute Cheryl Schatz

## Challenging my position that 1 Timothy 2:15 is a single woman

Evaluating Schatz Seaver Debate

On July 27th, 2009 Mike Seaver and I started a ten session debate on Women in Ministry where I was able to ask Mike questions on his position, he answered my questions and then we each had one response. Mike is still considering whether he will continue with another ten sessions where Mike will ask

Aussie Debate On Women In Ministry

There is a good natured debate going on over at the Women in Ministry blog conference at the Presbyterian church in Ryde blog between myself and Peter Barnes. Those who would like to watch an Aussie and a Canadian duke it out over the issue of whether there is a “law” that forbids women to teach the

Australian Conference On Women In Ministry Cheryl Schatzs Article Now Online

My article is now up on the Australian conference for the Presbyterian church. Click here to read the article and feel free to comment

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## Responses to question #5

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John Piper On Submission In Abuse

## John Piper: “What should a wife’s submission to her husband look like if he’s an abuser. ”

Mike Seaver And Cheryl Schatz Debate 6

In the last blog post Cheryl Schatz posed her third set of questions to Mike Seaver regarding their debate on women in ministry. Links to all the previous questions and responses is at the end of this post

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## Are Men Restricted

Ask John Piper Do Some Complementarians Deny Women Opportunities

## Do Some Complementarians deny women opportunities

New Blog Conference On Women In Eldership

I have been invited by Pastor Dave Woolcott to participate in a new blog conference on women’s eldership in the church put on by the Ryde Presbyterian Church in Ryde, Sidney, Australia. The blog address for the conference set for September 1 – 15, 2009 is The blog is on line now and active and I in

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## Are Witnesses and Repetition needed to Prove Women may not teach the Bible

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## Is there a Second Witness that forbids Christian women from teaching the Bible to men

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## Facing the spiritual “law” head-on from 1 Corinthians 14

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## Building Bridges on the Women in Ministry debate

New Debate Seaver Schatz

## New debate with Mike Seaver

Wayne Grudem 6

This is the part 6 of answering Wayne Grudem’s “ Open Letter to Egalitarians ” and his “Six Questions That Have Never Been Satisfactorily Answered”. Today I am posting his sixth question, Suzanne McCarthy’s answer and my own questions below that