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Scripture Commentary article 2024-09-03

Where Mike Winger Went Wrong on Women

Comprehensive response to the entire Mike Winger Women in Ministry video series (Parts 1-13)

1 Cor 14:35-36 1 Corinthians 11:10 1 Corinthians 11:12 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2024-08-08

What Mike Winger Gets Wrong on What Women Can’t Do

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 13 on what women can and can't do according to the Bible

1 Corinthians 7:5 1 Timothy 2:12 Ephesians 5:21-22 Headship & Kephale Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2024-02-07

Why Mike Winger is Wrong About “Authenteō” in 1 Timothy 2:12 – and Why It Matters

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the meaning of authenteō in 1 Timothy 2:12

1 Cor. 7:13 1 Corinthians 12:27-31 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2023-03-09

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Women Apostles

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 5 on whether women were apostles in the New Testament

1 Corinthians 12:28 1 Corinthians 12:7 1 Corinthians 15:5 Women in Leadership Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2023-01-17

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Male Headship: Is It Really Biblical?

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 8 on male headship and whether it is really biblical

1 Corinthians 11:3 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 1 Corinthians 6:18-20 Ephesians 5 1 Corinthians 11 Headship & Kephale
Scripture Commentary article 2022-11-25

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Women Leaders in the New Testament (PART B)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 4 on women leaders in the New Testament (Part B)

1 Chronicles 29:6 1 Corinthians 12:21 1 Corinthians 15:32 Women in Leadership Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2012-01-08

Eph 5 Infected

In my last post, I presented one of the best sermons that I have ever heard on Ephesians 5, regarding the evidence of Spirit-filled lives for both men and women. This post is on the opposite of the Spirit-filled life which is an influx of worldly infection through male-centered pride

Luke 22:25 Ephesians 5 Authority & Submission Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2010-04-14

T4G Comp Tied To Gospel

The 2010 Together for the Gospel conference is on right now as I write this article. The conference this year is called The Unadjusted Gospel and according to J

Colossians 14:34-35 Ephesians 4:2 Exodus 1 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-12-20

Equal In Value And Worth In Whose Eyes

One of the problems with the definitions that complementarians provide  is that the definitions aren’t complete enough on the surface to reveal the underlying hierarchical nature. However, when one pushes to get the answers to some difficult questions, the picture becomes a lot clearer

Galatians 3:28 Lamentations 1 Lamentations 3:28 Adam & Eve Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-12-08

Comp Spiritual Abuse

Can complementarianism ever be considered spiritual abuse. Before we can discuss this, we need to know what spiritual abuse is

Acts 4:23 Hosea 1 Matthew 23:1-2 Authority & Submission Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-08-14

Ask John Piper Do Some Complementarians Deny Women Opportunities

## Do Some Complementarians deny women opportunities

Colossians 14:7 Colossians 14:8 Colossians 14:9 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-01-15

They Are Sinning Through Questioning

The issue of women in ministry allows us to the opportunity to ask questions about the hard passages of scripture and to work through these passages to discover God’s intended meaning through the inspired context. But in many quarters, questioning is a “sin” that will get a reprimand from a strong a

1 Peter 5:1-3 Jeremiah 23:1 Titus 1:7 Women in Leadership Complementarianism Spiritual Abuse
Scripture Commentary article 2008-09-28

Semi Egalitarians

USA Today has an editorial written by David P Gushee in which Mr. Gushee challenges complementarians that they are actually semi-egalitarians and they should be willing to openly acknowledge this

Isaiah 5 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-08-14

Is Complementarianism Merely Personal Conviction

This post is a response to Randy Stinson’s article titled “ Is Complementarianism a Merely Personal Conviction. “

1 Corinthians 11 1 Corinthians 11:12 1 Corinthians 7:14 Complementarianism Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2007-11-10

The Trinity And The Womens Issue

Just a quick update to let you all know that our ministry is working on a DVD project on the Trinity. While it isn’t directly on the women’s issue, it will deal directly with the complementarian view of the Trinity and a biblical refutation of that view

Trinity Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-17

@harmonizedgrace @mtnhousewife @BibleBashed Ok. If you don’t feel like engaging, then leave my question hanging and don’t answer. It’s ok. I am aware of @BibleBashed - there are a lot of accounts that promote patriarchy and complementarianism. @Mik...

@harmonizedgrace @mtnhousewife @BibleBashed Ok. If you don’t feel like engaging, then leave my question hanging and don’t answer. It’s ok. I am aware of @BibleBashed - there are a lot of accounts th

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-06

Mike has a unique kind of complementarianism which sees a requirement for males

Mike has a unique kind of complementarianism which sees a requirement for males to rule females as God’s good design but only for this life. Apparently it’s not good enough to keep going in the age t

general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-04

@MegaChurchMouse Curious you chose a verse in a passage that commends a bunch of female leaders. Question for you: could someone in a Pentecostal church quote the same verse if you try to correct their egalitarian teaching (that they have learned fo...

@MegaChurchMouse Curious you chose a verse in a passage that commends a bunch of female leaders. Question for you: could someone in a Pentecostal church quote the same verse if you try to correct the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Greek doesn't help? The NT wasn't written in English. About "complementarianism" being the dominant view until the middle of the 20th century...(chuckles)... The formalization of complementarian theology and ...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Greek doesn't help? The NT wasn't written in English. About "complementarianism" being the dominant view until the middle of the 20th century...(chuckles)...

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-04

@Markbhere2 @MikeWingerii I also appreciate Mike Winger. And I also agree with him on the vast majority of what he says. This issue is different and I’m not sure why. He does not treat egalitarians with the same grace and respect he treats others. An...

@Markbhere2 @MikeWingerii I also appreciate Mike Winger. And I also agree with him on the vast majority of what he says. This issue is different and I’m not sure why. He does not treat egalitarians wi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Mike claims complementarianism as distinctively 'Christian'. Interesting, given

Mike claims complementarianism as distinctively 'Christian'. Interesting, given it's a term defined by Christians themselves. [14:30] /3

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-01

Will be interesting where Mike draws the lines for his version of complementaria

Will be interesting where Mike draws the lines for his version of complementarianism. Will he allow female deacons even though the statement “one wife husband” is stated for both elders and deacons?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-01

@danitreweek @CBMWorg I hope you get a response to that Rigney piece. I can see why you want to go back to an older form, ‘Danvers Complementarianism.’ Might I commend egalitarianism and another look at the key scriptures? See the following 🧵 https...

@danitreweek @CBMWorg I hope you get a response to that Rigney piece. I can see why you want to go back to an older form, ‘Danvers Complementarianism.’ Might I commend egalitarianism and another look

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-16

@danitreweek It's genuinely heartening to hear about your experience with complementarians who demonstrated such respect and equality. Indeed, the very best complementarians are those who, in practice, embody an egalitarian approach. =) The challeng...

@danitreweek It's genuinely heartening to hear about your experience with complementarians who demonstrated such respect and equality. Indeed, the very best complementarians are those who, in practice

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Scripture Commentary debate point

Can complementarianism ever be considered spiritual abuse. Before we can discuss this, we need to know what spiritual abuse is

[general] From: Comp Spiritual Abuse

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Theology verse entry

Galatians 5:1-6

Sections: exegesis, greek_analysis

Galatians 5:1-6 circumcision,freedom,bondage,yoke,faith working through love,egalitarian
Theology verse entry

Ephesians 2:14-16

Sections: exegesis, greek_analysis

Ephesians 2:14-16 wall of partition,dividing wall,peace,one new man,Jew Gentile,egalitarian
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Definition of complementarianism: women and men are equal in value but have different roles, particularly that women should not serve as elders.

Framing the debate — defining key terms

complementarianism eldership gender roles
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

For egalitarians these role questions are easy; for complementarians they require nuance. Examples include women theologians like Nancy Pearcey and the debate over women seminary teachers (John Piper opposes it).

Scope of practical questions raised by this debate

John Piper complementarianism Nancy Pearcey John Piper
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Women bloggers, podcasters, and YouTubers like Alisa Childers raise the same questions — she has more impact than most pastors.

Scope of practical questions raised by this debate

complementarianism Alisa Childers women in online ministry
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Can a woman correct a man's theology? Can a woman serve communion? The uncertainty causes women to hold back even from things they could do.

Scope of practical questions raised by this debate

women correcting theology women serving communion soft complementarianism
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Mike's personal journey: he wanted to become egalitarian, prioritized egalitarian scholarship, read Philip Payne and Linda Belleville, but did not change his mind.

Mike's personal stance and research journey

soft complementarianism Philip Payne Linda Belleville
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Mistake #2: Believing women in ministry is simply a result of the evils of feminism.

Mistake #2: Evils of feminism

bypassing scripture feminism complementarianism
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Groothuis's three qualifications — permanent, comprehensive, ontologically grounded — do not describe what complementarians actually believe or what the Bible teaches.

Mistake #4: Rebutting Groothuis's qualifications

complementarianism Rebecca Merrill Groothuis permanent subordination
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Many egalitarians expand male authority to its most monstrous extreme to make it intolerable, causing readers to reject complementarianism before ever reading the Bible.

Mistake #4: Egalitarian rhetorical strategy

bypassing scripture straw man argument egalitarian rhetoric
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Groothuis's argument only works against an extreme form of complementarianism that most complementarians would also reject — it attacks a straw man.

Mistake #4: Straw man critique

Rebecca Merrill Groothuis straw man argument relational submission
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Even if Groothuis is right philosophically, her conclusion explicitly blocks Bible reading — she says there can be 'no biblical or theological warrant' for women's submission, which pre-determines what the Bible is allowed to say.

Mistake #4: How Groothuis's argument bypasses scripture

bypassing scripture biblical authority Rebecca Merrill Groothuis
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Mistake #5: The argument that complementarianism leads to abuse and is therefore wrong — the most common argument Mike encounters.

Mistake #5: Complementarianism leads to abuse

domestic abuse complementarianism and abuse story-driven theology
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Story-driven theology uses real horrific abuse examples to claim they are the automatic result of complementarianism, which keeps people from reading the Bible.

Mistake #5: Story-driven theology

bypassing scripture domestic abuse story-driven theology
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Barr equates complementarianism with abuse — 'you cannot separate the issues' — making the book about stories creating theology rather than understanding scripture in context.

Mistake #5: Critique of Beth Allison Barr's book

complementarianism and abuse Beth Allison Barr The Making of Biblical Womanhood
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Barr uses the story of a rude complementarian male student to overrule Russell Moore's distinction between pagan patriarchy and biblical complementarianism.

Mistake #5: Barr's story overruling theological argument

story-driven theology Beth Allison Barr The Making of Biblical Womanhood
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Barr's argument: personal stories overrule any theological distinction — 'nice try, tell that to my story' — all nuance and distinction between pagan patriarchy and complementarianism is erased.

Mistake #5: Stories overruling scripture

bypassing scripture story-driven theology Beth Allison Barr
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Discovering Biblical Equality chapter 28 argues complementarianism causes domestic abuse from a social science perspective.

Mistake #5: Academic version of the abuse argument

Discovering Biblical Equality domestic abuse complementarianism and abuse
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Quote from Discovering Biblical Equality: complementarianism is 'by definition a system of permanently unequal power distribution' that creates conditions under which abuse flourishes.

Mistake #5: Academic version of the abuse argument

Discovering Biblical Equality domestic abuse complementarianism and abuse
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Mike's rebuttal: the argument that complementarianism causally relates to domestic violence does not pass the 'smell test' when applied consistently to other authority structures.

Mistake #5: Rebuttal via analogy

government analogy authority structures logical consistency
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Three commitments: (3) Mike will not be 'God's PR department' — he will not avoid truths or fail to confront false beliefs to make Christianity palatable.

Three things Mike will NOT do in this series

God's PR department biblical submission intellectual honesty
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Introduction to part 2 of Women in Ministry series, framing it as a month-long research project engaging deeply with egalitarian views.

Series introduction and framing

women in ministry complementarianism egalitarianism
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Definition of complementarian and egalitarian positions in the debate over women in ministry.

Framing the two sides of the debate

women in ministry complementarianism egalitarianism
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Full summary of Genesis 1-3: Genesis 1 = equal image/dominion; Genesis 2 = different roles with husband's limited leadership; Genesis 3 = the fall makes these roles much harder and introduces abuse.

Comprehensive summary of the video's conclusions

complementarianism Gen 2 Gen 3
Mike Winger idea 2022-04-13

Introduction to the Women in Ministry series part 4

Mike introduces this as part 4 of his exhaustive series on women in ministry, covering everything the Bible says and engaging every egalitarian argument he can find.

women in ministry complementarianism egalitarianism
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