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Scripture Commentary article 2022-11-24

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong With Genesis 1–3: ‘Was Women’s Submission Just A Curse To Be Overturned?’

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 2 on Genesis 1-3 and whether women's submission was just a curse to be overturned

1 Corinthians 11:7-10 1 Corinthians 15:22 1 Corinthians 16:15-16 Genesis & Creation Authority & Submission Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2009-09-30

Neopatriarch Once Again Fails To Refute Cheryl Schatz

## Challenging my position that 1 Timothy 2:15 is a single woman

1 Timothy 2:10 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2:11-12 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-05

As @MikeWingerii stated in his video series, how we see Genesis 2-3 is 99% of the debate! Mike sees Paul’s deliberate connection of the creation order with deception, but why isn’t he willing to entertain the idea that Adam wasn’t deceived because o...

As @MikeWingerii stated in his video series, how we see Genesis 2-3 is 99% of the debate! Mike sees Paul’s deliberate connection of the creation order with deception, but why isn’t he willing to ente

debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-10

@RickWarren If you want to convince complementarians, you have to exegete 1 Cor

@RickWarren If you want to convince complementarians, you have to exegete 1 Cor 14:34-35, 1 Cor 11:1-16, 1 Tim 2:11-15, 1 Tim 3:1-13, Titus 1:5-16, Genesis 2-3 and it has to be consistent with not inv

1 Cor 11:1-16 1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 2:11-15

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Timothy 2:11-15 specific woman,deception,authenteo,grammar,perfect tense,future tense,anaphoric,egalitarian,ephesus,teknogonia,singular plural,historical perfect,verbal aspect,paul as pattern
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

The general complementarian approach sees Genesis 2 showing husband's leadership role, confirmed in Genesis 3; the egalitarian approach says authority only appears in Genesis 3 as part of the curse.

Overview of the two interpretive frameworks for Genesis 2-3

male authority Gen 2 Gen 3
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Mike's view: before the fall there was harmonious, tensionless leadership; now the curse introduces conflict -- the solution is alleviating abuse, not eliminating the nature of authority.

Mike's synthesis of Genesis 2-3 on authority

Gen 3:16 Gen 2 post-fall conflict
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Critical distinction: Genesis 2-3 is about HUSBANDS and WIVES, not men and women in general -- 'know your place' language wrongly presupposes universal female submission to all men.

Limiting the scope of the Genesis teaching

husband-wife scope Gen 2-3 universal female submission rejected
Mike Winger idea 2022-11-11

Genesis 1 vs. Genesis 2-3: relationship to creation vs. relationship to each other

Mike provides the key framework from his Genesis study (video 2).

Genesis 1 Genesis 2-3 dominion Genesis 1 Genesis 2-3
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Genesis 1:26-28 — both male and female are given dominion over the earth

Mike grounds Pillar 3 in Genesis 1.

Genesis 1:26-28 image of God dominion Genesis 1:26-28
Mike Winger idea 2023-11-22

Genesis 2-3 is already in Paul's mind, making Genesis 3:15 the natural next reference

Mike argues that Paul's appeal to Genesis in vv.13-14 makes a Genesis 3:15 reference in v.15 perfectly natural.

Genesis 2 Genesis 3 Genesis 3:15 Genesis 2 Genesis 3 Genesis 3:15
Mike Winger idea 2023-11-22

Summary of positive evidence for the Messianic view

Mike lists the accumulated arguments in favor of his preferred interpretation.

Genesis 3:15 1 Timothy 2:4-6 Galatians 4 converging evidence Messianic interpretation Genesis 3:15
Mike Winger idea 2023-11-22

Conclusion 13: Based on creation and fall, applies to all churches today

Mike reaffirms the trans-cultural, trans-temporal basis of the restriction.

1 Timothy 2:13-14 Genesis 2-3 1 Timothy 2:13-14 Genesis 2-3 universal application
Mike Winger idea 2020-09-11

The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was not about wisdom or knowledge in general but about moral autonomy through sinful rebellion

Response to Adriano asking why the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was bad if wisdom is generally a good thing in the Bible.

Genesis 2-3 wisdom Genesis 2-3 Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil
Mike Winger idea 2020-12-04

Why did God create the tree of the knowledge of good and evil if he foreknew the fall? Guessing divine motives is risky, but free will and genuine love require real choices.

Question from Reggie LQ about the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and divine foreknowledge.

Genesis 2-3 Genesis 2-3 Tree of knowledge of good and evil Divine foreknowledge
Mike Winger idea 2021-03-05

Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil: gave experiential knowledge of rebellion, not the initial ability to distinguish right from wrong

Responding to how Adam and Eve could be held responsible for disobeying before eating the fruit that gave knowledge of good and evil

Genesis 2-3 Genesis 2-3 sin nature Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil