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Scripture Commentary article 2024-02-07

Why Mike Winger is Wrong About “Authenteō” in 1 Timothy 2:12 – and Why It Matters

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the meaning of authenteō in 1 Timothy 2:12

1 Cor. 7:13 1 Corinthians 12:27-31 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2011-04-14

1 Timothy 212 Prohibitions Revisited

I started a post months ago and then life became so complicated I had to set my blog aside to cope. This post will now be the new “home” on the discussion on whether 1 Timothy 2:12 has two prohibitions or one

1 Timothy 1:20 1 Timothy 1:3 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2010-02-20

Adam Names Eve

One of the positions that complementarians commonly hold is that male and female were created with distinct roles so that one (the male) is said to have been given the authority over the other (the female) and the fact that Adam names Eve is used as proof of the man’s authority. CMBW (The Council on

Acts 22 Exodus 1 Exodus 23 Genesis & Creation Authority & Submission Adam & Eve
Scripture Commentary article 2009-07-18

Wayne Grudem 5

This is the part 5 of answering Wayne Grudem’s “ Open letter to Egalitarians ” and his “Six Questions That Have Never Been Satisfactorily Answered”. Today I am posting his fifth question, Suzanne McCarthy’s answer from the Greek and my own questions below that

1 Timothy 2:12 Amos 100 Exodus 1 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-03-20

Round 3 Interview With Paul On A Woman

This post is the third one of a simulated interview with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day. Doug, a strong complementarian has been given the opportunity to ask Paul about

1 Corinthians 14:23 1 Corinthians 14:24 1 Corinthians 14:25 1 Timothy 2 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-01-21

Who Was Judge Deborah Or Barak

The story of Deborah and Barak in the book of Judges has caused many hierarchists to assign the God-given work of judge delivering the people of Israel to Barak while denying that God raised up Deborah as a deliverer. By assigning a calling to Barak that scripture never assigns, it appears that the

Isaiah 11:32 Isaiah 3:12 Judges 2:16 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-10-03

Women Leaders To Judge Sinful Men

It is very common for hierarchists to explain away Deborah’s position as Judge in the nation of Israel as merely a judgment by God

Isaiah 11:32 Isaiah 3:1 Isaiah 3:12 Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2008-05-06

1Tim2Objections

My article laying out the original argument showing that 1 Timothy 2:12 is a specific woman that Paul forbids from teaching is here

1 Timothy 1:12 1 Timothy 1:13 1 Timothy 1:14 1 Timothy 2 Adam & Eve Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2007-12-07

Laying A False Argument To Rest

One of the arguments that complementarians employ against women in ministry is the argument that God only used women as prophets and leaders in the Bible when there were no men available at the time. Is this really a valid argument

2 Kings 22:12 2 Kings 22:13 2 Kings 22:14 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2007-09-30

The Rest Of The Story 1 Timothy 211 15 And Matt Slick

> Proverbs 18:17 (ESV) The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him

1 Peter 4:10 1 Peter 4:11 1 Timothy 1:13 1 Timothy 2 Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2007-08-23

Are Womens Gifts To Be Used Outside The Church

In my blog entry called “ Are women’s gifts secondary. ” I documented the complementarian teaching that women’s gifts are secondary to men’s gifts and that women to use their gifts outside the church

1 Corinthians 14:23 1 Corinthians 14:26 1 Corinthians 14:31 Spiritual Gifts Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-09

@Tailfeathers_WA @GwenSci @dalepartridge Huldah’s example also shows a prophetes

@Tailfeathers_WA @GwenSci @dalepartridge Huldah’s example also shows a prophetess with authority. In 2Ki 22:14-20, the king’s men seek her guidance rather than that of any male prophet. This demonstra

2Ki 22:14-20 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-09

@Tailfeathers_WA @GwenSci @dalepartridge While some prophetesses in Scripture ma

@Tailfeathers_WA @GwenSci @dalepartridge While some prophetesses in Scripture may not have held leadership roles over men, Deborah clearly did, as evidenced by her leadership over Barak and her role i

Jdg 4:8-9 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-12-09

@Tailfeathers_WA @GwenSci @dalepartridge Deborah is explicitly identified as a judge in Jud 4:4-5: “Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth, was judging Israel at that time. She used to sit under the palm tree of Deborah between Ramah and B...

@Tailfeathers_WA @GwenSci @dalepartridge Deborah is explicitly identified as a judge in Jud 4:4-5: “Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth, was judging Israel at that time. She used to sit

Jud 4:4-5 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-05

@ReformedRant Also, in Ex 15:20, Miriam is identified as a “prophetess,” and she leads the women in song and dance after the crossing of the Red Sea, further demonstrating her leadership and influence. In Num 12:1-2, Miriam and Aaron speak against M...

@ReformedRant Also, in Ex 15:20, Miriam is identified as a “prophetess,” and she leads the women in song and dance after the crossing of the Red Sea, further demonstrating her leadership and influence

Ex 15:20 Num 12:1-2 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-28

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy So if I understand your point, the fact that the proverbs 31 woman isn’t stated as sitting in the gate with her husband means that he is an authority over her and tells her what she can and cannot do? The fact that Deborah ...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy So if I understand your point, the fact that the proverbs 31 woman isn’t stated as sitting in the gate with her husband means that he is an authority over her and tells her

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Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 2:11-15

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Timothy 2:11-15 specific woman,deception,authenteo,grammar,perfect tense,future tense,anaphoric,egalitarian,ephesus,teknogonia,singular plural,historical perfect,verbal aspect,paul as pattern
Theology verse entry

Revelation 2:20

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis

Revelation 2:20 Jezebel false prophetess didasko
Theology verse entry

Genesis 21:9-12

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Genesis 21:9-12 Sarah,Abraham,authority,obedience,women-leadership,egalitarian
Theology verse entry

Proverbs 31:10-31

Sections: exegesis, greek_analysis

Proverbs 31:10-31 excellent wife,wisdom,commerce,public teaching,economic independence,egalitarian,women leadership
Theology verse entry

Judges 4:4-9

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Judges 4:4-9 Deborah,judge,prophetess,woman leader,Barak,Israel,egalitarian
Theology verse entry

Exodus 15:20-21

Sections: exegesis

Exodus 15:20-21 miriam,prophetess,worship leader,women leadership,song of the sea
Theology verse entry

2 Kings 22:14-20

Sections: exegesis

2 Kings 22:14-20 huldah,prophetess,women leadership,josiah,book of the law
Theology verse entry

Judges 4:1-24

Sections: exegesis

Judges 4:1-24 deborah,judge,prophetess,general,jael,women leadership,sisera
Theology verse entry

Joel 2:28-29

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Joel 2:28-29 prophecy,Spirit outpouring,daughters,women prophets,Pentecost,egalitarian,Joel,Acts 2,Peter sermon,last days
Theology verse entry

Numbers 12:1-15

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Numbers 12:1-15 Miriam,Aaron,tsaraat,prophetess,female leadership,WIM,egalitarian,Moses unique mediator,Deborah,Huldah,Micah 6:4
Theology greek term

נְבִיאָה (nĕbî'āh)

prophetess (feminine of נָבִיא)

greek
Theology greek term

צָרַעַת (ṣāraʿat)

skin disease / ritual leprosy (Lev 13-14)

greek
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-30

Survey of women who prophesied in the Bible: Miriam, Huldah, Deborah, Isaiah's wife, Anna, Philip's four daughters

Mike establishes that women clearly prophesied throughout the Bible, both in the OT and NT.

Isaiah's wife Luke 2 Acts 21:9 Deborah women prophesying Miriam
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-30

Anna prophesied publicly at the temple to all who were waiting for the redemption of Jerusalem (Luke 2:36-38)

Mike presents Anna as another example of public, mixed-gender prophetic speech.

Luke 2:36-38 women prophesying Anna Luke 2:36-38
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Overview of today's topics: women in OT leadership positions — Deborah as judge, female prophets, and the priesthood restriction.

Road map for video 3

judges Deborah priesthood Miriam
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Aimee Byrd claims Huldah canonized the Torah by her prophecy — Mike calls this utterly ridiculous stretching.

Example of egalitarian over-reaching

Huldah Aimee Byrd Recovering from Biblical Manhood and Womanhood
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Introduction to Miriam: sister of Moses, a prophetess with an important role — not just a 'hood ornament.'

Beginning the examination of Miriam

Exodus Moses Miriam prophetess
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Philip Payne also claims Miriam was 'sent by God to lead Israel' — Mike calls this reckless handling of the text.

Additional egalitarian scholar making the same claim

Micah 6:4 Philip Payne Miriam textual stretching
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Conclusions from Numbers 12: Moses is a different kind of leader; Miriam is rebuked for trying to usurp his authority.

Drawing conclusions from Numbers 12

Numbers 12 Moses Miriam Numbers 12
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Miriam was a prophetess; some incorrectly deny female prophets existed in the Bible.

Affirming the reality of female prophets

Numbers 12 Miriam prophetess Numbers 12
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Mike rejects the claim that female prophets only prophesied privately — Scripture doesn't support this restriction and there are examples of public prophecy.

Pushing back on complementarian minimizing

prophetess private vs. public prophecy
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Exodus 15:20-21: Miriam leads women with tambourines in singing after the Red Sea crossing — she functions as a prophetess in divinely inspired worship.

Examining Miriam's leadership in Exodus 15

Exodus 15:20-21 Miriam prophetess Exodus 15:20-21
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Numbers 12 implies Miriam prophesied to the people in general, not just women — 'hasn't the Lord spoken to us also?'

Soft evidence that Miriam prophesied to men and women

Numbers 12 Miriam prophetess Numbers 12
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Mike rejects limiting female prophets to speaking to women only, and rejects limiting Miriam to prophetic singing only.

Final positions on scope of female prophecy

Miriam prophetess prophetic singing
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Conclusions on Miriam: some degree of leadership, not like Moses, rebuked for pushing for more, not a priest, leadership sometimes focused on women and connected to prophecy.

Summary conclusions on Miriam

Moses priesthood Miriam
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Introduction to Huldah the prophetess (2 Kings 22:14) — Belleville emphasizes the king choosing Huldah over other prophets.

Beginning examination of Huldah

2 Kings 22:14 Linda Belleville Huldah prophetess
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Still, Huldah was a prophetess sought by the king for direction from God — that's genuinely significant for our study.

Balanced conclusion on Huldah

Huldah prophetess prophetic authority
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Isaiah's wife is called a prophetess (Isaiah 8:3) — she likely prophesied in her own right.

Brief note on another female prophet

Isaiah's wife Isaiah 8:3 Isaiah's wife prophetess Isaiah 8:3
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Noadiah the prophetess (Nehemiah 6:14) was a false prophet hired against Nehemiah — she should not be used to establish frequency of female prophets.

Brief note on another OT prophetess

Nehemiah 6:14 Nehemiah Nehemiah 6:14 Noadiah false prophet
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

There were probably more female prophets than those listed in the Bible, but they seem infrequent; multiple possible explanations exist.

Speculating on frequency of female prophets

prophetess frequency of female prophets
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

God doesn't rule out women being prophets; female prophets existed when good men were available (Miriam, Huldah), refuting the 'no good men' argument.

Key conclusion on female prophets

Miriam Huldah prophetess
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Preview: next week will address whether female prophets prove women can be elders — transitioning now to women in other roles and the priesthood.

Transition to Deborah and priesthood topics

eldership Deborah prophetess
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Some complementarians claim Deborah did only private counseling — Mike says this is wrong based on Judges 4:4-5.

Rebutting complementarian minimizing of Deborah

Judges 4:4-5 Deborah Judges 4:4-5 Lappidoth
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Summary of what women were in the OT: town representatives, queens with limited authority, one judge for decades, prophets with clear divine approval.

Final summary of women's roles in the OT

judges Deborah Old Testament women prophetess
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