What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Women Apostles

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 5 on whether women were apostles in the New Testament

Pauls Ordination

This post is a separation of the post called Is ordination a requirement for a female pastor. since it was brought to my attention that the two streams of thought were too much for one post

Scriptural Fences

One of the helpful things in interpreting scripture is to identify what I call “scriptural fences”. These special verses force us to interpret the passage within the limits set up by the “fence” line

Gift Vs Office And Women In Ministry

Continuing in our series on the gifts and their use by men and women in the body of Christ, we come to an unusual passage where the gift seems not to be a thing but a person

@3nDLEGEND @CherylSchatz Where does Jesus affirm or deny the picking of Matthias

@3nDLEGEND @CherylSchatz Where does Jesus affirm or deny the picking of Matthias? Where in scripture is the requirements Peter listed specified for Judas’ replacement?

@TheLastDon222 @CherylSchatz Jesus didn’t provide the means by which Judas’ repl

@TheLastDon222 @CherylSchatz Jesus didn’t provide the means by which Judas’ replacement should be selected nor the criteria, nor did He affirm or deny Matthias. Jesus was silent on Matthias. Jesus was

@JamesGi27467089 @carol66944 @MikeWingerii God's choice was clearly the apostle

@JamesGi27467089 @carol66944 @MikeWingerii God's choice was clearly the apostle Paul. And all 12 apostles were also Jewish (not a single one was a Gentile). We don't say "explain why no Gentile was co

@ReformedSteven @Christianous100 @RevKimWChafee Also, for point 1, the complicat

@ReformedSteven @Christianous100 @RevKimWChafee Also, for point 1, the complication here is that Jesus is also God. The comparison is not between God and man, male and female. You are not the pope of

@JamesGi27467089 @ronhenzel I’ll grant you that the word used is aner (for men). It does seem that the apostles certainly thought that Judas’ replacement should be a man. Though it is a replacing of one of the original apostles which was before the c...

@JamesGi27467089 @ronhenzel I’ll grant you that the word used is aner (for men). It does seem that the apostles certainly thought that Judas’ replacement should be a man. Though it is a replacing of o

@tiermakeracco17 @ADRoblesMedia @smashbaals Yes, that unfortunately does happen too. So where’s the correct path? It’s neither Replacement Theology / Supercessionism nor the Hebrew Roots Movement. When I visited the wailing wall it was to watch wh...

@tiermakeracco17 @ADRoblesMedia @smashbaals Yes, that unfortunately does happen too. So where’s the correct path? It’s neither Replacement Theology / Supercessionism nor the Hebrew Roots Movement.

@Converted84 @ThomasReeseSJ @NCRonline @HeidiSchlumpf @dearmisskate Jesus is serving as our high priest. His human ‘replacement’ is His body, the church which includes all its members. Why are you calling my church sodomitical? Why are you asking ...

@Converted84 @ThomasReeseSJ @NCRonline @HeidiSchlumpf @dearmisskate Jesus is serving as our high priest. His human ‘replacement’ is His body, the church which includes all its members. Why are you c

1 Timothy 1:3-5

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Revelation 21:14

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Psalm 109:8

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Ephesians 5:18-33

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Acts 1:16-26

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Romans 11:25-36

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ἐπισκοπή (episkopē)

office, oversight, supervision

Further evidence for metaphor: infants weren't literally ruling, verse is about current rulers not future replacement, and women are rebuked later in chapter 3 but not for leading.

Building the case that Isaiah 3:12 is metaphor

Greek word analysis: anti in verse 15 means equivalence, not replacement

Mike examines the Greek preposition debate in verse 15.

The 'never be rebuilt' clause: Phoenician Tyre was permanently destroyed. What replaced it was a Greek city under Alexander — a new foundation, new population, new identity — not a restoration.

This is the most debated element of the Tyre prophecy; Winger addresses it with historical citations.

Dispensationalism: Mike rejects the label but holds a modified view — national Israel has a distinct future in God's plan; he rejects full replacement theology

Q&A: questioner asks about dispensationalism and kingdom of heaven vs. kingdom of God.

"From the beginning" (ap archēs) eyewitnesses in Luke 1:2 defined by Acts 1:21-22

What Luke means by "from the beginning eyewitnesses."

Mike's positive replacement for the slogan: evidence makes a claim believable when data is better explained by the hypothesis being true

Mike offers a rigorous epistemological alternative to the slogan.

Big picture point 3: The Law was always heading toward replacement—Jeremiah 31 predicts a New Covenant unlike the old

Third foundational contextual claim: the Law had a built-in expiration point

Acts corroboration: Ananias falsely acting as high priest — Acts 23

McLatchie gives a final Acts example showing extra-biblical corroboration explaining an apparent difficulty in the text.

Burnout and shedding responsibilities: Transitioning out of youth ministry

The combination of youth pastoring, online ministry, and other church roles became physically unsustainable.

Western culture's refusal to have children is rooted in an unbiblical view that humans are parasites — a secular replacement of God's judgment with 'nature's judgment' for ecological sins.

Cultural diagnosis applied to the childbearing question.

When reading Scripture, consult a second translation when you genuinely do not understand a passage

First question / tip of the stream: when to reference secondary Bible translations

Prayer to Mary and the glorification of Mary in the rosary are the primary theological problems for an ex-Catholic

Question from Calm 23 — an ex-Catholic still doing the daily rosary, seeking a replacement devotional

The Lord's Prayer is an excellent structured guide for prayer when used as a launch pad, not as a rote formula to repeat

Positive application of the Lord's Prayer and recommendation for daily devotional practice

Being grafted into Israel does not give Christians the right to claim every promise made to Israel, especially negative or law-based promises

The second half of the question about claiming Israel's promises via grafting-in

Matthew 19:28 — the promise of 12 thrones for those who followed Jesus does not necessarily include Judas; Matthias' replacement and the symbolic nature of the number 12 both resolve the tension.

Robo King asks whether Judas still has a throne since Jesus promised 12 thrones to the Twelve in Matthew 19:28.

The prayer promise is couched in the destruction-of-temple context because Jesus is inaugurating NEW COVENANT prayer — from temple-mediated access to direct access through Christ. Christians ARE the new temple.

The temple context explains WHY this prayer teaching appears here in Mark

Authority Replacement

Hebrews 1:1-2 opens with a declaration of continuity: the same God who spoke through the prophets in many times and ways now speaks through his Son. This compacted theology establishes Jesus as the culmination and continuation of God's revelation — not a replacement or contradiction of it.

Hebrews 1:1-2: the continuity of divine revelation from OT prophets to the Son