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Scripture Commentary article 2026-03-30

1 Corinthians 14 — Research Notes (Cheryl Schatz)

Collection of 5 research notes examining 1 Corinthians 14:34-36, including the eta particle argument for quotation/refutation reading, the non-existent 'law' reference, segregated seating problems, and commentary from RtNT and Bender showing contradictions with Paul's affirmation of women prophesying.

1 Cor 11:2-16 1 Cor 11:22 1 Cor 6:2 1 Corinthians 14 Authority & Submission Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2024-09-03

Where Mike Winger Went Wrong on Women

Comprehensive response to the entire Mike Winger Women in Ministry video series (Parts 1-13)

1 Cor 14:35-36 1 Corinthians 11:10 1 Corinthians 11:12 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2024-06-19

The Debates Over 1 Timothy 2

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the debates over 1 Timothy 2:11-15

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Corinthians 10:11 1 Corinthians 12:1-11 1 Timothy 2 Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2024-02-07

Why Mike Winger is Wrong About “Authenteō” in 1 Timothy 2:12 – and Why It Matters

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the meaning of authenteō in 1 Timothy 2:12

1 Cor. 7:13 1 Corinthians 12:27-31 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2023-03-10

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: “Women Keep Silent” (1 Cor 14:34–35)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 11 on 'women keep silent' in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35

1 Cor 14:35-36 1 Cor. 14:21 1 Corinthians 11:11 1 Corinthians 14 Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2017-06-08

Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free? Parts 5-7: 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 3, Galatians 3:28

[Music] the women are to keep silent in the churches for they are not permitted to speak but are to subject themselves just as the law also says if they desire to learn anything let them ask their own husbands at home for it is improper for a woman to speak in church 1 Corinthians 14 has been a diff...

1 Corinthians 14:12 1 Corinthians 14:13 1 Corinthians 14:26 1 Corinthians 14 Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2011-10-29

Phil Johnson Monstrous Divas

Phil Johnson over at Pyromaniacs has struck up some heat on a post that he titles “The First Blast of the Trumpet Against the Monstrous Regiment of the Discernment Divas”. In this post and in his subsequent comments he makes his position plain that women are not allowed to publicly point out an erro

1 Corinthians 12:11 1 Corinthians 12:6 1 Corinthians 14:1 Authority & Submission Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-09-19

Evaluating Schatz Seaver Debate

On July 27th, 2009 Mike Seaver and I started a ten session debate on Women in Ministry where I was able to ask Mike questions on his position, he answered my questions and then we each had one response. Mike is still considering whether he will continue with another ten sessions where Mike will ask

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 1 Peter 4:10 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Corinthians 14 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-07-12

Wayne Grudem 3

This is the part 3 of answering Wayne Grudem’s “ Open letter to Egalitarians ” and his “Six Questions That Have Never Been Satisfactorily Answered”. Today I am posting his third question and my own answer

1 Corinthians 14:1 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 1 Corinthians 14:36 1 Corinthians 14 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-05-23

Paul As He Pleases 9

This is the ninth in a series of simulated interviews with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day

1 Corinthians 12:11 1 Corinthians 12:17 1 Corinthians 12:18 1 Corinthians 14 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-03-16

Interview With The Apostle Paul

This post will be a simulated interview with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day. We are interested in asking Paul his reasons for what he wrote about women and what he thin

1 Corinthians 14:34 1 Timothy 2:12 Hosea 16:2 1 Corinthians 14 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-12-01

Do Egalitarians Twist The Scriptures

The charge is often laid that egalitarians twist the scriptures. I would like to apply a saying that I read recently

1 Corinthians 11:10 1 Corinthians 14:34 1 Corinthians 7:36 1 Timothy 2 1 Corinthians 11 1 Corinthians 14
Scripture Commentary article 2008-11-18

Galatians 328 Is It Only About Salvation

According to complementarians, Galatians 3:28 is not about equality in Christ, but about all of us being in the same “boat” of salvation. The Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood (CBMW) has made quite an effort to try to demolish Galatians 3:28 as a basis of spiritual equality outside of salvat

1 Corinthians 14:34 Exodus 3:28 Galatians 3:11 1 Corinthians 14 Complementarianism Galatians 3:28
Scripture Commentary article 2008-10-05

1 Cor14 Concludes

We have been going through 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, the passage that appears to silence women in the church to see how carefully Paul has constructed his words in 1 Corinthians 14:36 to contradict the silencing in verses 34 & 35. (For past articles on this topic, please see the 1 Corinthians 14 secti

1 Corinthians 14:1 1 Corinthians 14:12 1 Corinthians 14:13 1 Corinthians 14 Spiritual Gifts
Scripture Commentary article 2008-10-02

Let Her Learnor Not

In our continuing discussion of 1 Corinthians 14:34-36, we come to the problematic area of learning

1 Corinthians 14:31 1 Corinthians 14:34 1 Corinthians 14:34-36 1 Timothy 2 1 Corinthians 14 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2008-09-21

Who Dared To Contradict Paul

Many people have a big problem with Paul because they think that he was sexist. I would like to change that point of view by looking carefully at the text so that we can fully appreciate Paul for who he was, not the false impression that we have of Paul

1 Corinthians 10:23 1 Corinthians 14:34 1 Corinthians 14:36 1 Corinthians 14
Scripture Commentary article 2008-09-19

Is A Womans Voice Filthy

In the last post we talked about how there is no “law” in the Old Testament scriptures that forced women to be silent in the assembly so the reference in 1 Corinthians 14:34, 35 had to be some other “law” that forced silence on women. The “law” that silences women is found not in God’s law, but in t

1 Corinthians 14:34 1 Corinthians 14:35 Acts 14 1 Corinthians 14 Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2008-09-16

The Elusive Law

1 Corinthians 14:34, 35 has been a problem passage because of two issues that stick out like a sore thumb. The first issue is the elusive law

1 Corinthians 14:34 Genesis 3:16 Isaiah 1 1 Corinthians 14 Genesis & Creation Authority & Submission
Theology verse entry

2 Peter 3:15-16

Sections: cross_references, exegesis

2 Peter 3:15-16 Paul hard to understand distortion
Theology verse entry

Galatians 3:26-29

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Galatians 3:26-29 inheritance,sonship,equality,salvation,sanctification,Judaizers,bondage,egalitarian,Galatians 3:28
Theology verse entry

Acts 2:17-18

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Acts 2:17-18 pentecost,prophecy,sons daughters,Holy Spirit,last days,egalitarian,Joel
Theology verse entry

1 Corinthians 14:33-37

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Corinthians 14:33-37 interpolation,textual criticism,silence,quotation,Western text,women speaking,women silent,Corinthian quotation,oral law,Pharisees,rhetorical refutation,eta particle,women in ministry,egalitarian,complementarian debate
Theology greek term

νόμος (nomos)

law

greek
Theology greek term

δύσνοητος (dysnoētos)

hard to understand / difficult to comprehend

greek
Theology greek term

ἐπιτρέπω (epitrepo)

to permit, to allow, to entrust

greek
Theology greek term

λαλέω (laleo)

to speak, to talk, to proclaim; general word for verbal expression

greek
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-30

Two key passages used by strong complementarians to deny women speaking publicly: 1 Corinthians 14:34 and 1 Timothy 2

Mike identifies the passages that fuel the opposing view.

1 Timothy 2 1 Corinthians 14:34 John MacArthur 1 Timothy 2 1 Corinthians 14:34 John MacArthur
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-30

MacArthur's real basis: 1 Corinthians 14:34 (women keep silent) overrides the plain reading of 1 Corinthians 11

Mike identifies that MacArthur's position depends entirely on 1 Corinthians 14:34 controlling the meaning of chapter 11.

1 Corinthians 11 1 Corinthians 14:34 John MacArthur hermeneutics 1 Corinthians 11 1 Corinthians 14:34
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-30

MacArthur's conclusion quoted and rejected: 'women may have the gift of prophecy but normally are not to prophesy where men are present'

Mike quotes MacArthur's specific position and says the rule 'seems wrong.'

1 Corinthians 14:34 John MacArthur women prophesying Philip's daughters 1 Corinthians 14:34
Mike Winger idea 2022-06-20

F.F. Bruce's declaration that Galatians 3:28 is the basic principle governing other Pauline texts

Mike quotes F.F. Bruce via Groothuis to show how the verse is used as a hermeneutical rule.

1 Corinthians 14:34 Galatians 3:28 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Corinthians 14:34 Galatians 3:28 hermeneutical priority
Mike Winger idea 2022-08-15

Biblical justifications for wifely submission vs slave obedience are completely different

Mike lists the actual biblical reasons for each and compares them.

Titus 2:5 1 Corinthians 14:34 1 Corinthians 11:3 creation order Titus 2:5 1 Corinthians 14:34
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Introduction of 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 as a highly controversial passage

Mike reads the passage and acknowledges modern readers will find it offensive, but states his main concern is understanding what it actually means in context.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 biblical authority 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 women's silence in church
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Overview of the egalitarian vs. complementarian debate

Mike frames the two polar opposite positions on women in ministry as context for the five views he will present.

complementarianism egalitarianism gender roles
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Introduction of View 1: The Interpolation View

Mike introduces the first of five views, which argues these verses do not belong in the Bible at all.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 textual criticism 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 interpolation theory
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Interpolation View Hinge 1: No manuscript lacks these verses

Mike examines the manuscript evidence and finds that not a single manuscript omits 1 Corinthians 14:34-35.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 1 Corinthians 14:40 textual criticism 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 manuscript evidence
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

The UBS apparatus rates these verses as 'almost certain' to be authentic

Mike explains the UBS (United Bible Societies) critical apparatus and its rating of these verses.

textual criticism manuscript evidence UBS (United Bible Societies)
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

What does 'the law' mean in 1 Corinthians 14:34?

Mike addresses the debate over what 'the law' refers to: Roman law, Jewish law, local custom, or the Old Testament.

the law Roman law Jewish oral law
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Jesus also uses 'law' to refer to Psalms, not just the Pentateuch

Mike provides additional evidence that 'the law' was used broadly in the NT.

John 15:25 Psalm 35:19 Psalm 69:4 law as scripture John 15:25 Psalm 35:19
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Paul's quotation-refutation style in known instances differs dramatically from 1 Corinthians 14

Mike compares how Paul actually does quotation-refutation elsewhere versus what is claimed here.

1 Corinthians 14:34-36 Pauline quotation-refutation style 1 Corinthians 14:34-36
Mike Winger idea 2018-09-26

Women's silence passages in context — likely addressing local disorder, not a universal ban

A viewer asks whether men and women can be in a Bible study together and if women should be silent.

1 Corinthians 14:34 1 Timothy 2:12 hermeneutics 1 Corinthians 14:34 gender roles
Pulpit sermon 2019-11-09

"Does the Bible Permit A Woman to Preach?" - John MacArthur

John MacArthur addresses whether the Bible permits women to preach, presenting a restrictive complementarian position. Sermon from Grace Community Church.

1 Timothy 2:11-15 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 Genesis 2:18-25 complementarian women in ministry church leadership
Pulpit sermon 2019-09-01

Women in Ministry - Prof Craig Keener

Paul's letters stand at the centre of the dispute over women's role in church ministry, with each side of the dispute championing texts from the Apostle. How do we understand the text in 1 Corinthians 14 where Paul instructs women to be silent, or the 1 Timothy 2 passage where women are forbidden to teach or exercise authority over men? Are these texts addressing a specific cultural situation or should they be treated as universal prohibitions? Craig Keener delved deeply into the world of Paul and wrestled with these thorny texts in his book [*Paul, Women and Wives: Marriage and Women's Ministry in the Letters of Paul*](/library/25) (Hendrikson, 1992). In a public lecture at Laidlaw's Henderson campus in September 2019, Professor Keener looked at the arguments for both sides of the question: 'are women allowed to be in ministry?', and the approaches various theologians and church traditions have taken throughout the centuries. He gave insights into the culture at the time Paul wrote his letters, and of the way false teachers were targeting women. He notes the importance of considering the original situation of Paul's letters, and that Paul does affirm women's ministry which helps us to see that Paul himself did not prohibit women from teaching the Bible always.

Exodus 15 Numbers 2 Kings 22-23 Women in Ministry Complementarianism egalitarianism
Pulpit research note

Peppiatt's Quotation-Refutation Theory on 1 Corinthians 14:34-35

[Lucy Peppiatt](logosres:LLS:9781498201476;ref=bible.1Co14.34-35) (now [Peppiatt Crawley](logosres:LLS:9781498201476;ref=bible.1Co14.34-35)) argues vv. 34-35 are not Paul's words but the Corinthians'

1 Corinthians 14:34-35
Pulpit research note

Podcast Q1: The "Law" That Doesn't Exist (Impact 9/10, Reconsideration 7/10)

"Brett, verse 34 says women should be silent 'as the Law also says.' You mentioned this was about order, but which law is being referenced here? There's no Old Testament passage that commands women's

1 Corinthians 14:34
Pulpit research note

Commentary: "Counter-Cultural" Is Not a Truth Test — And His View Is Also Cultural

Ardavanis suggests that his complementarian view is counter-cultural, implying that its friction with modern culture validates it. But culture is not how we measure truth. A view being unpopular does

1 Corinthians 14:34-35