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Where Mike Winger Went Wrong on Women

Comprehensive response to the entire Mike Winger Women in Ministry video series (Parts 1-13)

What Mike Winger Gets Wrong on What Women Can’t Do

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 13 on what women can and can't do according to the Bible

The Debates Over 1 Timothy 2

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the debates over 1 Timothy 2:11-15

Why Mike Winger is Wrong About “Authenteō” in 1 Timothy 2:12 – and Why It Matters

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the meaning of authenteō in 1 Timothy 2:12

A First Response to Mike Winger’s 11½ Hrs Video on 1 Timothy 2

A first response to Mike Winger's 11.5-hour Women in Ministry Part 12 video on 1 Timothy 2

A 14-Point Biblical Case for Women Leaders and Teachers And Why Mike Winger, The Gospel Coalition, and the Southern Baptists Are Wrong About This

A 14-point biblical case for women leaders and teachers, responding to Mike Winger, The Gospel Coalition, and the Southern Baptists

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: “Women Keep Silent” (1 Cor 14:34–35)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 11 on 'women keep silent' in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Women Apostles

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 5 on whether women were apostles in the New Testament

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: The Head Covering Debates (1 Cor 11)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 10 on the head covering debates in 1 Corinthians 11

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Male Headship: Is It Really Biblical?

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 8 on male headship and whether it is really biblical

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Women Leaders in the New Testament (PART A)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 4 on women leaders in the New Testament (Part A)

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Women Leaders in the New Testament (PART B)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 4 on women leaders in the New Testament (Part B)

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong With Genesis 1–3: ‘Was Women’s Submission Just A Curse To Be Overturned?’

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 2 on Genesis 1-3 and whether women's submission was just a curse to be overturned

Does God Torment Women

## Is it a sin for a woman

Comp View Of 1Cor11 Mark

This post is a first. I have never before taken the writing of a complementarian and posted it on my blog

Neopatriarch Once Again Fails To Refute Cheryl Schatz

## Challenging my position that 1 Timothy 2:15 is a single woman

Evaluating Schatz Seaver Debate

On July 27th, 2009 Mike Seaver and I started a ten session debate on Women in Ministry where I was able to ask Mike questions on his position, he answered my questions and then we each had one response. Mike is still considering whether he will continue with another ten sessions where Mike will ask

Aussie Debate On Women In Ministry

There is a good natured debate going on over at the Women in Ministry blog conference at the Presbyterian church in Ryde blog between myself and Peter Barnes. Those who would like to watch an Aussie and a Canadian duke it out over the issue of whether there is a “law” that forbids women to teach the

Australian Conference On Women In Ministry Cheryl Schatzs Article Now Online

My article is now up on the Australian conference for the Presbyterian church. Click here to read the article and feel free to comment

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## Responses to question #5

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Mike Seaver And Cheryl Schatz Debate 8

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Mike Seaver And Cheryl Schatz Debate 6

In the last blog post Cheryl Schatz posed her third set of questions to Mike Seaver regarding their debate on women in ministry. Links to all the previous questions and responses is at the end of this post

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## Are Men Restricted

New Blog Conference On Women In Eldership

I have been invited by Pastor Dave Woolcott to participate in a new blog conference on women’s eldership in the church put on by the Ryde Presbyterian Church in Ryde, Sidney, Australia. The blog address for the conference set for September 1 – 15, 2009 is The blog is on line now and active and I in

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## Are Witnesses and Repetition needed to Prove Women may not teach the Bible

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## Is there a Second Witness that forbids Christian women from teaching the Bible to men

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## Facing the spiritual “law” head-on from 1 Corinthians 14

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## Building Bridges on the Women in Ministry debate

New Debate Seaver Schatz

## New debate with Mike Seaver

Wayne Grudems An Open Letter To Egalitarians

In 1998 Wayne Grudem wrote “An Open Letter to Egalitarians,” and in the letter, he gave six questions that he said have never been satisfactorily answered

Semigalitariansim And Feminist Air

When does explaining God’s Word make one an enemy of the church. According to Mike Seaver, a woman who is allowed to teach the Word of God to men, even if she is under the authority of her husband and even if she has received authority from her pastor to teach the Bible (and assuming her pastor is m

Neopatriarch Fails To Refute Cheryl

Some have wondered why “Chris” the complementarian stopped posting here. Apparently, he could not get his refutation of my work to stand in an interactive forum so he moved it over to a place where he could have the floor to himself

How Many Men

Tradition has flavored a lot of things for us that causes us to see everything in terms of tradition instead of thinking outside the box

A Deeper Look 1Tim2

This is a response to an article called “ A Deeper Look into: 1 Timothy 2:12 ” by an author posting by the email address of carmradio@ymail. com on September 23, 2008

Public Statement Regarding Matt Slick

Public Statement regarding the Cheryl Schatz initiated Matthew 18 meeting with Matt Slick (CARM)

Is Complementarianism Merely Personal Conviction

This post is a response to Randy Stinson’s article titled “ Is Complementarianism a Merely Personal Conviction. “

Asking Right Questions

Have you ever found that your discussions with hierarchists goes nowhere fast because they say they have heard the egalitarian arguments before and they are not willing to listen to what you have to say. Perhaps we are missing an opportunity to engage them because we are wanting to teach them first

Was The Man Given Authority To Rule The Woman

This is the fifth and final response to Matt Slick’s article called Genesis 2, Adam and Eve, and Authority

Authority And Created Order

In this fourth part of my response to Matt Slick’s article called “Genesis 2, Adam and Eve, and Authority” , I am going to deal directly with Matt’s comments regarding authority and created order. Matt writes:

Naming Of Eve From God

This is the third response to the article by Matt Slick called “ Genesis 2, Adam and Eve, and Authority “

Special Authority To Adam

This is part two of the response to an article by Matt Slick of CARM called “Genesis 2, Adam and Eve, and Authority” found here

Authority Withheld From Eve

This article is a response to an article written by Matt Slick of CARM called Genesis 2, Adam and Eve, and Authority. The article is found here

Noodling With The Greek Grammar

While I have made a very strong point of the Greek grammar in 1 Timothy 2:15 with the singular “she” and the plural “they” (no specific gender for “they”), some have been trying hard to wiggle out of the implications that Paul is referring to a specific woman because the only living person at that t

Eve Deceived Adam Not

For a PDF copy of this article click here Eve was Deceived pdf file

Should Comps Debate

While there has been some genuine, respectful dialog between complementarian and egalitarian scholars, more often than not, the emotions that are brought into the dialog have brought less than respectful debate. The body of Christ is meant to fight the enemy together but when some turn their weapons

Scriptural Fences

One of the helpful things in interpreting scripture is to identify what I call “scriptural fences”. These special verses force us to interpret the passage within the limits set up by the “fence” line

Primogeniture

In the next of Matt Slick’s articles on women in ministry that I will be reviewing is his article called Primogeniture found at Matt gives what he considers to be the meaning of primogeniture:

Matt Slick And Cheryl Schatz

While I am reviewing Matt Slick’s articles on women in ministry, I would like to create this post as a public debate between Matt Slick and myself so that he is allowed to express himself without the restrictions that he has placed on me but in a place where I too am unrestricted. Matt previously sa

Only One Verse

In my continuing review of CARM and Matt Slick’s articles on women in ministry, this post is about Matt’s article titled “ Only one verse prohibits women to teach men, so it doesn’t apply to the whole church ”

Matt Slick She They

This is a continuation of my evaluation of Matt Slick’s articles on women in ministry. Matt has been working for weeks to try to refute my interpretations

Answering Matt Slicks Agenda On 1 Timothy 2:12

This is part 2 of answering the complementarian objections of Matt Slick on 1 Timothy 2:11-15. See part one here

1Tim2Objections

My article laying out the original argument showing that 1 Timothy 2:12 is a specific woman that Paul forbids from teaching is here

To Diane Sellner Of Carm

**October 2008 addition Note: A public statement regarding Diane Sellner’s role in the public attacks against me is at

Radio Update And Whats Up In Ministry

It’s time for an update especially since I have been so busy that I haven’t been able to post much for awhile

Matt Slicks Radio Station To Host Women In Ministry Silenced Or Set Free

Below is what I posted on Matt Slick’s discussion board. I will add the day and time of the airing of “Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free

Carm Alert Grace In Action

I got an email from Matt Slick today. In addition to saying that I misrepresented him (he said I was claiming that he believes I am unsaved

The Rest Of The Story 1 Timothy 211 15 And Matt Slick

> Proverbs 18:17 (ESV) The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him

Matt Slick And Cheryl Schatz Debate 2

Matt Slick and I had an interesting discussion on whether Paul was stopping true biblical teaching in 1 Timothy 2:12 or whether Paul was stopping error. My answer concerning the imperative command to let a woman learn (1 Timothy 2:11) and the fact that all teaching by “a woman” was to be stopped unt

Debating Women In Ministry Round 2

On Wednesday September 26, 2007 I will be having round number 2 with Matt Slick on the issue of women in ministry. We will be dealing with 1 Timothy 2 and the issues of whether “a woman” is a specific woman in Ephesus or whether Paul is prohibiting all Christian women from teaching men (or some vari

Debate Audio Between Matt Slick And Cheryl Schatz

If you didn’t get a chance to hear the debate regarding women Pastors between Matt Slick of CARM and myself, you can hear it at this link

Debate With Matt Slick Scheduled

Regarding my previous post about debating with Matt Slick about women in ministry, I spoke to the producer of his radio program (Faith and Reason) tonight and she has set the date of Wednesday, September 19th for me to call in for the debate

Debating On Women Pastors

Did you ever feel pulled in a direction you really didn’t want to go in. Well, this has been my life for the last 3 1/2 years

1 Corinthians 113 And Head

In the last post I summarized the foundational points from chapter 10 that is necessary to the understanding of chapter 11. If you haven’t read it already, it can be read by clicking here

Should Cbmw Fight Egalitarians

This week CBMW (the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood) released two audio tapes from the February 2007 “Different by Design” Conference held in Minneapolis Minnesota. ( ) I was amazed at the way that the gospel was connected to the gender issue in such a way that those who do not hold to pa

We Are In Our New Home

We are mostly moved into our new home and much of our time has been spent in unpacking boxes. Our living room now feels like home since six book cases of my research and bible study books have been unpacked

Does Husband Of One Wife Disqualify Women From Being A Pastor

I was listening to the January 26, 2007 radio program online by Matt Slick of carm. org