@XChardain @masonmennenga That is not true. Let me show you from the Hebrew Scriptures. 1. Isaiah 53 speaks of a figure often interpreted as the Messiah who would suffer and die for the sins of others. This chapter describes him being "pierced for o...

@XChardain @masonmennenga That is not true. Let me show you from the Hebrew Scriptures. 1. Isaiah 53 speaks of a figure often interpreted as the Messiah who would suffer and die for the sins of other

@MythosMayhem @CherylSchatz @_KyleBerry Allegory is certainly used in scripture and many things that were done became like symbolic prophecy such as the exodus from Egypt having to be repeated by the Messiah. But Jesus didn’t lose His flesh. Where d...

@MythosMayhem @CherylSchatz @_KyleBerry Allegory is certainly used in scripture and many things that were done became like symbolic prophecy such as the exodus from Egypt having to be repeated by the

@Ashwin_Vengayil @ryancduff John’s ministry was a baptism of repentance. **Once Jesus was identified as the Messiah** were the baptisms done “John’s Baptism,” a separate “disciples’ baptism” which needed re-baptism after Pentecost, or something else...

@Ashwin_Vengayil @ryancduff John’s ministry was a baptism of repentance. **Once Jesus was identified as the Messiah** were the baptisms done “John’s Baptism,” a separate “disciples’ baptism” which ne

@DriverXag @marcjune23 @JorgeValenz1144 @CherylSchatz @HwsEleutheroi No, I'm not disagreeing with scripture. And no I'm not saying everyone at every age is innocent. When scripture says Esau was hated, it doesn't mean that God determined to send him...

@DriverXag @marcjune23 @JorgeValenz1144 @CherylSchatz @HwsEleutheroi No, I'm not disagreeing with scripture. And no I'm not saying everyone at every age is innocent. When scripture says Esau was hate

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry Mike’s position hasn’t fundamentally changed since he started commenting on 1 Tim 2:11-15 about 4 years ago. The major difference is he holds it much more strongly now, and he’s hopeful v15’s th...

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 @kelcy_lowry Mike’s position hasn’t fundamentally changed since he started commenting on 1 Tim 2:11-15 about 4 years ago. The major difference is he holds it

@smashbaals Because the Jews did not recognize their Messiah does not mean they had a different God. They just were not obedient. This would be like a disobedient Christian. Paul became a true Jew by fully obeying the OT scriptures. Paul, who was...

@smashbaals Because the Jews did not recognize their Messiah does not mean they had a different God. They just were not obedient. This would be like a disobedient Christian. Paul became a true Jew

@Robert_S_Morley @BenZeisloft I don’t disagree with most of what you wrote. There are Jewish believers in Jesus as their Messiah. The church was started by 12 Jewish apostles by a Jewish Messiah and Pentecost was where thousands of Jews were saved ...

@Robert_S_Morley @BenZeisloft I don’t disagree with most of what you wrote. There are Jewish believers in Jesus as their Messiah. The church was started by 12 Jewish apostles by a Jewish Messiah and

The following view comes from Genesis 6 where Angels lusted for women and had se

The following view comes from Genesis 6 where Angels lusted for women and had sex them to pollute the line of the Messiah. Is this what Paul was referring to? https://t.co/Ogj1OUUkwF

@granato50 @RevJamesCollazo @AnthonyJMHoward @JHF46thPotus @TaylorRMarshall The

@granato50 @RevJamesCollazo @AnthonyJMHoward @JHF46thPotus @TaylorRMarshall The apostles argued for Christ as Messiah from the Old Testament. They still had a Bible, even though the eyewitness testim

@masonmennenga Right, but I'm referring to Jesus in His ministry as recorded in the gospel accounts. One curious prisoner was John the Baptist who seemed to doubt that Jesus was the Messiah as John was rotting in prison while Jesus was preaching. O...

@masonmennenga Right, but I'm referring to Jesus in His ministry as recorded in the gospel accounts. One curious prisoner was John the Baptist who seemed to doubt that Jesus was the Messiah as John w

@RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin “After 2000 years of study”⎯ you realize that

@RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin “After 2000 years of study”⎯ you realize that the Jewish leaders had many years of study and they completely missed the Messiah? Paul didn’t have a wife or children.

1 Timothy 2:11-15

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1 Timothy 1:13-16

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Romans 5:12-19

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Genesis 3:14-19

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John 6:37

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Romans 9:16

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Romans 9:17-18

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Romans 11:25-36

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Malachi 1:2-3

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Joshua 2:1-21

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Joel 2:28-29

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1 Corinthians 15:28

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σωθήσεται (sothesetai)

she will be saved

τεκνογονία (teknogonia)

the childbearing

Introduction to 'saved through childbearing' (1 Tim 2:15): the most difficult verse

Mike introduces the five views on the enigmatic statement 'she will be saved through childbearing.'

View 5: Saved through the Messiah — the childbearing refers to Christ

Mike presents his preferred interpretation: 'saved through childbearing' refers to salvation through the promised Messiah born of Eve's line.

The she/they shift in verse 15 supports the Messianic reading

Mike explains why the grammatical shift from singular 'she' to plural 'they' supports identifying 'she' as Eve.

The Messianic view is an early patristic interpretation, not a modern invention

Mike notes that several church fathers held this view.

Schreiner's objection 1: the Messianic view requires seeing 'she' as Mary

Mike addresses Tom Schreiner's first objection to the Messianic interpretation.

Best objection to the Messianic view: teknogonia is an odd word choice for the Messiah

Mike presents what he considers the strongest push-back against his preferred view.

Summary of positive evidence for the Messianic view

Mike lists the accumulated arguments in favor of his preferred interpretation.

Paul's emphasis on the humanity/birth of Jesus supports a childbearing reference

Mike shows that Paul does emphasize the Incarnation and birth of Christ in his theology.

Application of the Messianic view: women are equal in salvation, different in role

Mike explains what his preferred interpretation means for the overall passage.

Matthew 24:23-26: False Christ warnings and the hidden advent claim

Addressing the JW argument that the second coming could be hidden

Canonical closure argument: the New Testament closes the canon — there is no room for a new book of scripture

Theological argument against the LDS claim to new scripture

Paul's apologetics in Acts — consistent use of reasoning from Scripture in synagogues demonstrates apologetics is a biblical method

Biblical evidence for the legitimacy and effectiveness of apologetics

Fifth fact (E): Enemies of Christ converted — specifically James the brother of Jesus and Paul the Apostle

Fifth point of the ALIVE acronym

Isaiah 53: modern claim that it refers to Israel, not Messiah, is historically novel

Ra claims Isaiah 53 (the Suffering Servant) is about Israel personified, not Jesus, and that Jews have always understood it this way

Rabbinic Judaism is not biblical Judaism — it postdates Christianity and is a response to Messiah's coming

Ra implies that because modern Jews don't accept Jesus, Christians are misappropriating the Hebrew Bible

Messianic prophecy: Messiah must 'come to the temple,' not rebuild it — Malachi 3:1

Ra claims Messiah must rebuild the Jewish Temple and Jesus did not

Jesus has influenced the entire world to worship the God of Israel — messianic prophecy fulfilled

Ra's list includes: Messiah must influence the entire world to acknowledge and serve one God

Isaiah 52:15 — kings shutting their mouths: shocked silence at the Messiah's work

Ra claims kings were never 'shut up' by Jesus, fulfilling Isaiah 52:15

Rashi and ancient rabbinic Midrash confirm Psalm 22 was understood as messianic

Were there any ancient Jewish authorities who read Psalm 22 as messianic?

Ancient rabbinical tradition: entire Old Testament is about the Messiah

Continuing discussion of Matthew's typological use of Hosea

Zechariah 9:9 — Ra claims it is not Messianic and requires Gentile conversion and expanded Israeli borders for fulfillment. The text contains none of those requirements.

Ra argues Christians misappropriate Jewish prophecy for Jesus.

The Babylonian Talmud itself treats Zechariah 9:9 as Messianic — debating how to reconcile a glorious coming (Daniel 7) with a humble donkey-riding coming.

Winger uses a Jewish non-Christian source to establish the Messianic reading of Zechariah 9:9.

The Old Testament was already understood by Jews — not just Christians — as pointing to a coming Messiah. The breadth and robustness of typological and prophetic connections to Jesus across the OT (seed of the woman, angel of the Lord, Melchizedek, prophet like Moses, bronze serpent, Joseph, High Priest, kinsman redeemer, Davidic King, last Adam) constitutes a meta-narrative that could only exist by design.

Romans 15:8 — Christ as servant of the circumcised fulfilling OT promises

Paired with Galatians 4:4 to further establish Jesus's Jewish identity and Messianic role.

Romans 1:3 — Jesus was a physical descendant of David

Continuing the list of what Paul knew — Jesus's Davidic lineage.