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Theology verse entry

John 5:18-23

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

John 5:18-23 Son equal to Father,John 5,EFS,Trinity,divine prerogatives,honor Son as Father,isos,subordinationism
Theology verse entry

John 17:5

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

John 17:5 pre-incarnate glory,Son,Father,equality,EFS,Trinity,eternal equality,high priestly prayer
Theology greek term

ὑποτασσόμεναι (hypotassomenai)

submitting (yourselves)

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Theology greek term

ἔζερ (ezer)

helper, strong ally, rescuer

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Theology greek term

κενόω (kenoō)

to empty; used reflexively of Christ's self-emptying (Phil 2:7)

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Theology greek term

צֵלָע (tsela)

side, rib, architectural side-chamber

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Theology greek term

ὑποτάσσω (hypotassō)

to subject, to submit, to place under

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Theology greek term

μορφή (morphē)

form, essential nature (Phil 2:6-7)

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Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Groothuis's syllogism: if women's subordination is permanent, comprehensive, and ontologically grounded, then women are inferior persons; women are not inferior; therefore subordination is unjustified.

Mistake #4: Analyzing Groothuis's syllogism

Rebecca Merrill Groothuis Discovering Biblical Equality syllogism
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Groothuis's three qualifications — permanent, comprehensive, ontologically grounded — do not describe what complementarians actually believe or what the Bible teaches.

Mistake #4: Rebutting Groothuis's qualifications

complementarianism Rebecca Merrill Groothuis permanent subordination
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Mary Conway's argument that all plural imperative verbs in Genesis 1:28 include both man and woman with no restriction on any activity, including dominion.

Egalitarian argument from Genesis 1

Discovering Biblical Equality Gen 1:28 Mary Conway
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Philip Payne's egalitarian argument: 'bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh' emphasizes shared essence and kinship, never subordination.

Egalitarian interpretation of Genesis 2:23

Philip Payne Man and Woman, One in Christ Gen 2:23
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Schreiner's point 3: Eve called Adam's 'ezer' (helper) -- complementarians argue this implies subordination, but Mike finds the egalitarian rebuttal strong on this point.

The 'ezer' (helper) debate

Tom Schreiner ezer kenegdo
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Linda Belleville's argument: every other OT use of 'ezer' has no connotation of submission; God himself is most commonly called 'ezer' in Scripture.

Egalitarian case that 'ezer' doesn't imply subordination

Linda Belleville ezer Hos 13:9
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Mike's conclusion on 'ezer': the complementarian view is weak if based on this word; it doesn't imply subordination or submission. The consistent thread is that the person being helped can't do it alone.

Mike's settled view on the 'ezer' debate

ezer Gen 2:18 changed mind
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Mike's view on 'ezer kenegdo': 'helper' simply means Adam can't be fruitful alone; 'kenegdo' (corresponding to him) doesn't mean 'his equal in all ways' -- both sides overreach.

Mike's settled interpretation of 'ezer kenegdo'

ezer kenegdo Gen 2:18
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Mike rejects the egalitarian view (e.g., Craig Keener) that subordination only appears in Genesis 3 as part of the curse; he sees a 'godly, tensionless leadership' for Adam in Genesis 2 as part of God's good creation.

Mike's key conclusion on Genesis 2

Gen 2 Craig Keener Paul, Women, and Wives
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-14

Egalitarian quotes: Belleville, Keener, and Payne all argue that Gen 3:16 is descriptive of fallen conditions, not prescriptive, and should not be enforced by church rules.

Egalitarian argument: the curse should be overturned, not propagated

Philip Payne Linda Belleville Gen 3:16
Mike Winger idea 2022-11-11

God is the head of Christ: 1 Corinthians 15:28 and the Son's submission to the Father

Mike addresses how God being the head of Christ supports the headship chain.

1 Corinthians 15:28 Trinity 1 Corinthians 15:28 eternal subordination
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Adam bears primary responsibility for sin — 1 Corinthians 15:22 and Romans 5:14-19

Mike argues Adam's greater representational role and accountability shows his greater authority.

Genesis 2 1 Corinthians 15:22 Romans 5:14-19 ezer Genesis 2 1 Corinthians 15:22
Mike Winger idea 2021-09-24

About the Subordination of the Son: How do you explain the subordination of Jesus (1 Corinthians 11:3; 15: 28) to the Father within Trinitarian theology? I explain it via incarnational subordination (Philippians 2:5; Hebrews 29; 5:8).

Q&A question: About the Subordination of the Son

1 Corinthians 11:3 1 Corinthians 11 1 Corinthians 11:3 Trinity Jesus
Mike Winger idea 2022-06-17

Is Eternal Subordinationism Biblical?: I read recently that the idea that God the Son has been eternally submissive to God the Father is heresy (Arianism). Is that true? Was Jesus only temporarily submissive to God the Father while on Earth?

Q&A question: Is Eternal Subordinationism Biblical?

Jesus heresy
Mike Winger idea 2024-02-23

Winger affirms the Father has authority over the Son but attributes this to the Incarnation (Phil 2:5-8), not necessarily to the eternal nature of the Trinity. He's open to but not convinced by Eternal Functional Subordination (EFS). Explicitly says he does NOT use EFS to defend complementarianism.

Q: Do many scriptures showing different authority levels between Father and Jesus mean the Father has higher authority? (John 14:28, 1 Cor 11:3, Matt 28:18)

1 Corinthians 11:3 Philippians 2:5-8 John 14:28 complementarianism headship Trinity
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