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Scripture Commentary tweet 2026-01-06

If what @jaredadairbell wrote is all true, this proves the LDS message false because the official LDS teaching is that the church was lost until Joseph Smith. The LDS Church teaches that: - After the death of the apostles, the original church establ...

If what @jaredadairbell wrote is all true, this proves the LDS message false because the official LDS teaching is that the church was lost until Joseph Smith. The LDS Church teaches that: - After the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-11-02

@Latterdaytruth Well, that’s an interesting story. But LDS teachings contradict

@Latterdaytruth Well, that’s an interesting story. But LDS teachings contradict the scripture so it doesn’t matter if Joseph Smith was coronated by 1000 angels…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-10-31

@jimbolicious_c Prophets are ALL to be tested according to their prophecies and

@jimbolicious_c Prophets are ALL to be tested according to their prophecies and teachings. There’s no exception path for Joseph Smith Jesus fulfilled all the prophecies concerning him; the Holy Spiri

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-10-27

@TheGermanicist Unless of course God didn’t call Joseph Smith as evidenced by hi

@TheGermanicist Unless of course God didn’t call Joseph Smith as evidenced by his teachings which contradict God’s own revealed Word which God cannot and will not do.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-10-26

@schism Joseph Smith’s heart and history is immaterial. The teaching he conveyed

@schism Joseph Smith’s heart and history is immaterial. The teaching he conveyed is what matters and it contradicts scripture and must therefore be rejected.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-10-26

@schism Joseph Smith’s statement sounds humble, but unfortunately it is rebellio

@schism Joseph Smith’s statement sounds humble, but unfortunately it is rebellion cloaked as curiosity. Yes, the church makes mistakes but Smith mistook God’s boundaries for human ones. https://t.co/2

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-10-21

@TeeplesCY Joseph Smith was a false prophet. His teachings are evidence. The Book of Mormon claims Lehi and Nehi were told to disobey the instruction of Jeremiah and flee to America and not to submit to Nebuchadnezzar when all people, good or bad, m...

@TeeplesCY Joseph Smith was a false prophet. His teachings are evidence. The Book of Mormon claims Lehi and Nehi were told to disobey the instruction of Jeremiah and flee to America and not to submit

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-10-19

RT @ryanschatz: @LdsLawyer2156 Joseph Smith was a false prophet because the Book

RT @ryanschatz: @LdsLawyer2156 Joseph Smith was a false prophet because the Book of Mormon teaches that Lehi obeyed God by fleeing Jerusale…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-10-19

@LdsLawyer2156 Joseph Smith was a false prophet because the Book of Mormon teaches that Lehi obeyed God by fleeing Jerusalem, while Jeremiah (God’s true prophet) declared that the Lord had given all nations (including all the true prophets), even the...

@LdsLawyer2156 Joseph Smith was a false prophet because the Book of Mormon teaches that Lehi obeyed God by fleeing Jerusalem, while Jeremiah (God’s true prophet) declared that the Lord had given all n

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-10-19

@LdsLawyer2156 In that case, since the BOM contradicts the Bible, it is actually

@LdsLawyer2156 In that case, since the BOM contradicts the Bible, it is actually proof that Joseph Smith was a false prophet.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-06-27

@BrandonABourg @PeterNDecker @sister_slay Not only that, but they constantly refer to it. In the teachings of Presidents of the Church: Joseph Smith (2007), it features the statement: “God himself was once as we are now…” and discusses it as truth, ...

@BrandonABourg @PeterNDecker @sister_slay Not only that, but they constantly refer to it. In the teachings of Presidents of the Church: Joseph Smith (2007), it features the statement: “God himself wa

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-06-27

@PeterNDecker @BrandonABourg @sister_slay I’m glad that you believe and claim that your faith is in God. That being the case, it is important to identify which God we are speaking about. Given that Joseph Smith was the founder of the LDS church, if t...

@PeterNDecker @BrandonABourg @sister_slay I’m glad that you believe and claim that your faith is in God. That being the case, it is important to identify which God we are speaking about. Given that Jo

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-06-27

@PrideCausesBias @sister_slay Let me ask you this. Is the following true? “We h

@PrideCausesBias @sister_slay Let me ask you this. Is the following true? “We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that y

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-06-27

@PeterNDecker @ModChristChurch @sister_slay But their witness doesn't hold water if they later left the faith, rejected Joseph Smith, only saw them in a vision (that's not an eye witness). They are not like the apostles who all died for proclaiming t...

@PeterNDecker @ModChristChurch @sister_slay But their witness doesn't hold water if they later left the faith, rejected Joseph Smith, only saw them in a vision (that's not an eye witness). They are no

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-06-27

@PeterNDecker @ModChristChurch @sister_slay Hm. But they all see and touch the physical plates? The apostles died for claiming they saw the resurrected Christ... did any of these eye witnesses die for what they claimed to be fact? Didn't a number o...

@PeterNDecker @ModChristChurch @sister_slay Hm. But they all see and touch the physical plates? The apostles died for claiming they saw the resurrected Christ... did any of these eye witnesses die fo

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@Methodios007 No. The Mormons/LDS teach I'm missing another gospel witness of Jesus' dealings in America. They presume the Bible and add to it with the BOM, the Pearl of Great Price, the Doctrines and Covenants, Word of Wisdom, etc. Once you accept J...

@Methodios007 No. The Mormons/LDS teach I'm missing another gospel witness of Jesus' dealings in America. They presume the Bible and add to it with the BOM, the Pearl of Great Price, the Doctrines and

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@Methodios007 @smashbaals The Joseph Smith added to the scriptures and contradic

@Methodios007 @smashbaals The Joseph Smith added to the scriptures and contradicted the prior revelation. False prophet.

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Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

Mike opens by claiming Joseph Smith perpetrated a fraud that undermines Mormonism's foundations

Introduction to the livestream topic

Mormonism Joseph Smith fraud
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

Introduction to the Book of Abraham as the key test case for Mormonism

Setting up the argument

Joseph Smith Book of Abraham Pearl of Great Price
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

Joseph Smith claims divine gifts as seer and translator; acquires Egyptian mummies and papyrus scrolls in Kirtland, Ohio

Historical background of the Book of Abraham

Abraham Joseph Smith 1835
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

The Rosetta Stone had only recently been found; Egyptology was nascent in 1835 — giving Smith apparent cover

Historical context for why Smith's claims were initially plausible

Joseph Smith 1835 Rosetta Stone
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

Joseph Smith purchases the mummies and scrolls for $2,400; claims one scroll was written by Abraham's own hand

The acquisition and initial claims about the papyri

Abraham Joseph Smith Book of Abraham
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

Smith's diary entries document ongoing 'translation' work on Egyptian alphabet and grammar in late 1835

Documentary evidence from Smith's own journals

Joseph Smith Book of Abraham 1835
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

LDS Church president's diary corroborates that Smith translated Abraham's own handwriting using the Urim and Thummim

Secondary LDS historical witness to Smith's translation claims

Abraham Joseph Smith Book of Abraham
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

The LDS Church officially canonized the Book of Abraham as translated from the papyrus by Joseph Smith

The canonical status of the Book of Abraham in LDS theology

Abraham Joseph Smith Book of Abraham
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

The original papyri were thought lost in the Great Chicago Fire; facsimile copies in Smith's own hand survive

The preservation history of the papyri evidence

Joseph Smith Pearl of Great Price Egyptology
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

Smith's interpretation of the facsimile images: he identifies figures as the angel of the Lord, Abraham, and names Egyptian gods

Smith's specific claims about the facsimile imagery

Abraham Joseph Smith Book of Abraham facsimiles
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

Early Egyptologist critics were dismissed because the original papyri could not be examined

How the LDS Church handled early scholarly criticism

Joseph Smith LDS Church Egyptology
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

The original papyri were discovered in 1966–1967 at the Metropolitan Museum of Art and given to BYU

The rediscovery of the Joseph Smith Papyri

LDS Church papyrus Metropolitan Museum of Art
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

LDS professor at BYU commented that the rediscovery of the papyri was 'a far more' significant test of LDS claims

Internal LDS academic recognition of the significance of the papyri rediscovery

Joseph Smith Book of Abraham Brigham Young University
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

Unlike the Book of Mormon (golden plates taken away), the Book of Abraham papyri CAN be tested — this is unique

The Book of Abraham as a uniquely testable LDS truth claim

translation comparison Joseph Smith testability of religious claims
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

The papyri date to the 2nd century BC — approximately 2,000 years after Abraham's time

Core finding from the Egyptological examination of the recovered papyri

Abraham Book of Abraham Egyptology
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

The papyri are pagan Egyptian funerary texts — specifically the 'Book of Breathings' — belonging to a man named Hor

What Egyptologists actually found the papyri to contain

Book of Abraham Joseph Smith Papyri Book of Breathings
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

Smith misidentified Egyptian deities; the figures at the bottom are canopic jars, not gods with the names Smith assigned

Specific errors in Smith's interpretation of the facsimile

Joseph Smith Book of Abraham facsimiles funerary texts
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

The Book of Abraham has no connection to Abraham in time, geography, subject matter, or religion

Summary of what the papyri actually represent

Abraham Joseph Smith Book of Abraham
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

Dr. James Henry Breasted (University of Chicago / Haskell Oriental Museum) calls Smith's interpretations wrong and shows he was unacquainted with basic Egyptian facts

Expert scholarly critique of the Book of Abraham facsimiles

James Henry Breasted Joseph Smith Pearl of Great Price Egyptology
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

Dr. Arthur C. Mace (Metropolitan Museum of Art / University of Pennsylvania) says it is 'hardly necessary to say' Smith's work is 'a pure' fabrication

Expert scholarly critique from an Egyptologist at the Metropolitan Museum of Art

Joseph Smith Egyptology Book of Abraham facsimiles
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

Rev. Prof. C.A. Briggs and a professor from University of Berlin identify the images as standard Book of the Dead scenes easily recognizable to any trained Egyptologist

Additional expert scholarly critique

Joseph Smith Egyptology Book of Abraham facsimiles
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

University of Munich Egyptologist calls Smith's work a probable forgery and says the text is not older than the Greek period

Additional expert scholarly critique from Munich

Joseph Smith Egyptology Book of Abraham facsimiles
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

The LDS Church's own official article on lds.org admits the characters on the papyri do not match the Book of Abraham text

The LDS Church's own admission in its official online materials

translation comparison LDS Church Book of Abraham
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

Central apologetic argument: if Smith lied about one thing as a prophet, he is a false prophet — and the evidence proves he lied

The logical conclusion of the Book of Abraham argument

Mormonism prophetic authority false prophet
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

Deuteronomy 18: the test for a false prophet — a prophet who speaks in God's name what God has not commanded shall die

Scriptural framework for evaluating false prophecy

Deuteronomy 18:20 Deuteronomy false prophet Joseph Smith Deuteronomy 18:20
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

LDS apologist claim that Smith received direct revelation (not translation) is refuted by his own diary

Responding to a viewer question about the LDS apologetic counter-argument

Joseph Smith Book of Abraham Joseph Smith diary
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

Canonical closure argument: the New Testament closes the canon — there is no room for a new book of scripture

Theological argument against the LDS claim to new scripture

Jeremiah 31 Mormonism Islam Book of Abraham
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

The Joseph Smith Papers project published the Egyptian Grammar and Alphabet documents, exposing them to scholarly scrutiny

Recent LDS document releases and their apologetic implications

Joseph Smith LDS Church Book of Abraham
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

LDS apologist argument #1: the 'Short Scroll Theory' — the recovered fragments are only part of a longer scroll

Review of LDS apologetic responses to the papyri problem

Book of Abraham Great Chicago Fire Metropolitan Museum of Art
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

Refutation of Short Scroll Theory: the facsimile images themselves, which Smith specifically interpreted, ARE on the surviving fragments

Mike's counter to the Short Scroll Theory

Joseph Smith Book of Abraham facsimiles Joseph Smith Papyri
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

LDS apologist argument #2: the 'Long Scroll Theory' — a different, longer, lost scroll within the same collection contained the real Book of Abraham source

Second main LDS apologetic response

Book of Abraham Great Chicago Fire Joseph Smith Papyri
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

LDS apologist argument #3: Smith did not 'translate' in the conventional sense — he was receiving spiritual impressions triggered by the images

Third main LDS apologetic counter-argument

Joseph Smith Book of Abraham inspired translation
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-31

Refutation of the 'spiritual impression' translation argument: Smith's own documents say it was written by Abraham's own hand — not a spiritual trigger

Mike's counter to the spiritual impression theory

Abraham Joseph Smith Book of Abraham
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