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Mike Winger idea 2018-03-28

The word 'apostle' has two meanings in Scripture: one who walked with Jesus, and the broader sense of a sent-out missionary

Q&A — response to George Cook's question about which apostles met Jesus in person

apostolos the Twelve New Testament
Mike Winger idea 2018-03-28

Five years is not enough time for legendary development — the 500-witness claim makes legendary embellishment implausible

Mike's argument against legendary development theory using the early dating of 1 Corinthians 15

1 Corinthians 15 1 Corinthians 15 resurrection legendary growth
Mike Winger idea 2018-03-28

The Episcopal Church's spiritual resurrection view contradicts the Jewish meaning of 'resurrection' — N.T. Wright and the physical risen Lord

Q&A — response to Philip Rushing's question about churches denying the physical resurrection

N.T. Wright resurrection spiritual resurrection theory
Mike Winger idea 2018-03-28

Parallel accounts of ascension or resurrection in other ancient figures would not lower Mike's confidence in Jesus's resurrection because of the evidential asymmetry

Q&A — Cam Spears's question about whether pre-Christian resurrection/ascension stories would lower confidence

resurrection comparative religion evidential standards
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Objection: the Bible incorrectly classifies whales as fish (Jonah 1:17; Matthew 12:40)

Ra claims the Bible is scientifically wrong for calling the creature that swallowed Jonah a fish when whales are not fish

Jonah 1:17 Matthew 12:40 Jonah 1:17 Matthew 12:40 Biblical Hebrew - dag
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Objection: bats are classified as birds in Leviticus 11 — Mike's rebuttal using Hebrew 'oph'

Ra claims the Bible incorrectly puts bats in the same category as birds in Leviticus 11

Leviticus 11 Taxonomy anachronism Bible and science Translation issues
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Translation limitations: English lacks words that exist in Hebrew/Greek (e.g., 'hand/wrist/arm')

In explaining the taxonomy issue, Mike illustrates how original-language words sometimes have no single English equivalent

Translation issues Biblical languages Semantic range
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Leviticus purification rituals were quarantine protocols, not magic healing spells

Ra claims the Bible teaches that ritual spells can purify and cure illness, when diseases are actually caused by pathogens

Leviticus 14 Leviticus 14 Purification rituals Quarantine laws
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Isaiah 53: modern claim that it refers to Israel, not Messiah, is historically novel

Ra claims Isaiah 53 (the Suffering Servant) is about Israel personified, not Jesus, and that Jews have always understood it this way

Isaiah 53 Origen Messianic prophecy Isaiah 53
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Rabbinic Judaism is not biblical Judaism — it postdates Christianity and is a response to Messiah's coming

Ra implies that because modern Jews don't accept Jesus, Christians are misappropriating the Hebrew Bible

Isaiah 53 Isaiah 53 Rabbinic Judaism Biblical Judaism
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Aaron Ra's list of unmet messianic prophecies — Jesus was not Jewish? He was not of tribe of Judah?

Ra presents a list of six messianic prophecies he claims Jesus failed to fulfill

Matthew genealogy Luke genealogy Messianic prophecy Genealogy of Jesus Matthew genealogy
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Messianic prophecy: Messiah must 'come to the temple,' not rebuild it — Malachi 3:1

Ra claims Messiah must rebuild the Jewish Temple and Jesus did not

Daniel 9 Malachi 3:1 Daniel 9 Messianic prophecy Malachi 3:1
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Isaiah 52:15 — kings shutting their mouths: shocked silence at the Messiah's work

Ra claims kings were never 'shut up' by Jesus, fulfilling Isaiah 52:15

Isaiah 52:15 Isaiah 52:15 Kings shutting mouths Sprinkling many nations
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Isaiah 53:4 — people thought he was stricken by God, but he was actually suffering for others

Ra claims the passage says God struck Jesus, but that Jesus was never actually struck by God

Isaiah 53:4-5 Suffering Servant Substitutionary atonement Isaiah 53:4-5
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Psalm 22: David was not a prophet? Mike rebuts and notes Psalm 22 clearly speaks of future events

Ra argues Psalm 22 is not messianic because (1) David was not a prophet, (2) the Psalms are in the 'writings' section not the 'prophets,' and (3) David never experienced anything like what's described

Psalm 22 Messianic prophecy Psalm 22 David as prophet
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Rashi and ancient rabbinic Midrash confirm Psalm 22 was understood as messianic

Were there any ancient Jewish authorities who read Psalm 22 as messianic?

Psalm 22:27 Messianic prophecy Universal worship of God Psalm 22:27
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Q&A: Matthew 26:23 vs. John 13:26 — apparent contradiction at the Last Supper

Viewer question about differences between Matthew 26:23 and John 13:26 in identifying the betrayer

Matthew 26:23 John 13:26 Matthew 26:23 John 13:26 Last Supper
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Ancient rabbinical tradition: entire Old Testament is about the Messiah

Continuing discussion of Matthew's typological use of Hosea

Jesus in the Old Testament Ancient rabbinical interpretation Typology
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Q&A: Can an atheist legitimately argue about a God they don't believe exists?

Viewer question: isn't it a contradiction for an atheist to argue about God using a Bible they don't believe?

Atheist arguments Moral argument for God Logical consistency
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Q&A: Minimum requirements for a prophecy to count as fulfilled

Viewer asks what minimum criteria a prophecy must meet to be considered fulfilled, referencing Aaron Ra's outro

Apologetics methodology Criteria for fulfilled prophecy Biblical prophecy standards
Mike Winger idea 2018-04-11

Reason 1 refuted: Bible organization is not a valid test for inspiration

The skeptic argues the Bible is a 'hopeless mess' that is not well organized and should be arranged by topic (creation, relationships, parenting, prayer, etc.).

Song of Solomon Psalms Proverbs Sermon on the Mount biblical organization anachronism
Mike Winger idea 2018-04-11

Reason 2 refuted: The Bible contains extensive practical advice; specificity is about utility, not inspiration

The skeptic argues the Bible does not give specific enough practical advice — for instance, a chapter organized by killing scenarios (war, self-defense, execution).

Proverbs marriage apologetics Proverbs
Mike Winger idea 2018-04-11

Reason 6 addressed: Scientific foreknowledge in the Bible — prophecy is superior to scientific insight as apologetic evidence

The skeptic argues an inspired Bible would contain scientific knowledge humans couldn't have had (e.g., quantum mechanics, germ theory). Mike largely treats this as a restatement of Reason 5.

Genesis 1 Hebrews 11:3 Genesis 1 inspiration tests scientific foreknowledge
Mike Winger idea 2018-04-11

Q&A: Matthew 2:23 — which prophet foretold Jesus would be called a Nazarene?

Viewer question about a fulfilled prophecy citation in Matthew that has no clear Old Testament source.

Isaiah Matthew 2:23 fulfilled prophecy Isaiah Matthew 2:23
Mike Winger idea 2018-04-11

Q&A: Is the Bible's text perfectly preserved like Muslims claim about the Quran?

Viewer question about textual preservation and inerrancy.

textual criticism inerrancy manuscript variants
Mike Winger idea 2018-04-25

Five key Jesus sayings that appear to predict an imminent second coming

Mike quotes the specific texts that drive the 'failed prophet' accusation before addressing them.

Mark 13:30 Luke 21:32 Matthew 10:23 Mark 13:30 Luke 21:32 Matthew 10:23
Mike Winger idea 2018-04-25

Partial and total fulfillment: Mike's interpretive framework for prophecy

Mike presents the first of two key background concepts before diving into Mark 13.

Isaiah 7:14 partial and total fulfillment prophetic fulfillment Elijah typology
Mike Winger idea 2018-04-25

Mark 13:1-4 — the disciples' question is bigger than just the temple's destruction

Opening the Mark 13 study; Mike notes the scope of what the disciples are actually asking.

Mark 13:1-4 Mark 13:1-4 temple destruction Olivet Discourse
Mike Winger idea 2018-04-25

Mark 13:28-31 — the fig tree parable and 'this generation' interpreted as the generation that sees the signs

Mike addresses the key contested phrase 'this generation will not pass away.'

Mark 13:28-31 this generation Mark 13:28-31 fig tree parable
Mike Winger idea 2018-04-25

Temple Mount still controlled by non-Jewish Arabs — possible ongoing 'trampling by Gentiles'

Mike applies the 'times of the Gentiles' concept to the contemporary geopolitical situation.

times of the Gentiles Temple Mount Israel 1948
Mike Winger idea 2018-04-25

Holding eschatological views with appropriate grip: core gospel vs. peripheral doctrines

Mike pauses to address his hermeneutical and pastoral posture toward disagreement on eschatology.

doctrinal triage gospel essentials eschatological humility
Mike Winger idea 2018-04-25

Matthew 10:23 — 'Son of Man coming' refers to Jesus arriving in the towns during the limited sending mission, not the second coming

Mike addresses the specific verse R.C. Sproul cites as evidence for an expected first-century return.

Matthew 10:23 Matthew 11:1 Matthew 10:5 contextual interpretation Matthew 10:23 R.C. Sproul
Mike Winger idea 2018-04-25

Q&A: Bar Kokhba rebellion as evidence against preterism — events worse than AD 70 occurred after it

Viewer William Williams raises the Bar Kokhba revolt as a counter to the preterist claim that AD 70 was the worst event in history.

Bar Kokhba rebellion preterism rebuttal great tribulation historicity
Mike Winger idea 2018-04-25

Q&A: Division over the rapture — what to disagree about and why Christians shouldn't divide over it

Viewer Joshua Rivera asks about the extent of rapture disagreement.

1 Thessalonians Christian unity doctrinal triage rapture
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-22

Joo-Cheol Kim is the real architect of modern CoG doctrine — he introduced God the Mother and the Christ claim for Sahng-hong after taking over the group

After Sahng-hong died, Kim separated from Sahng-hong's biological family and took control. Prior to his leadership, neither the God the Mother teaching nor the Christ claim for Sahng-hong existed in the group.

World Mission Society Church of God information control Joo-Cheol Kim
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-22

CoG teaches Saturday Sabbath-keeping is required for salvation

Chapter 1 of Kim's book. Page 15 states Sabbath must be kept 'to enter eternal rest.' Page 25 states rejecting the Sabbath brings God's judgment; teaching against it earns hell.

World Mission Society Church of God salvation by works/observance Sabbath
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-22

Kim selectively applies Old Testament law — takes Sabbath but ignores everything else in the same passage (Ezekiel 22:26)

Kim quotes Ezekiel 22:26 as proof that disregarding the Sabbath profanes God. Mike shows the verse also mentions distinctions between holy/common and clean/unclean — the entire Levitical system.

Ezekiel 22:26 proof-texting Joo-Cheol Kim Sabbath
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-22

Kim redefines the Sabbath as a list of behavioral rules for church attendance — show up on time, keep kids quiet, keep church clean, smile — rather than the biblical concept of rest

End of Kim's Sabbath chapter. He gives specific Sabbath rules that are entirely about corporate presentation.

information control Joo-Cheol Kim Sabbath
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-22

Kim builds straw men to argue against — e.g., fabricating the objection that Saturday worship is cultish, then refuting it, to avoid real criticism of his actual false teachings

Kim's apologetics section in the Sabbath chapter, around page 47.

Joo-Cheol Kim Sabbath straw man argument
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-22

CoG claims Passover was 'completely destroyed' at the Council of Nicaea in AD 325 and no one has been saved for 1,600 years until Ahn Sahng-hong restored it

Kim's book page 149. This is described as the 'weird core teaching' of the group.

church history conspiracy theory Ahn Sahng-hong
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-22

Kim has recently begun teaching that all humans are fallen angels who pre-existed in heaven and sinned there before being born on earth

A new teaching Mike heard that day, translated from Korean. Not yet widely distributed in English.

World Mission Society Church of God Joo-Cheol Kim pre-existence of souls
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-22

The simplest test for distinguishing true from false teachers is the identity of Jesus (who is he?) and the means of salvation (how am I saved?) — 1 John and Ephesians 2:8-9

Q&A: question from Zipa Duck about how new Christians can identify false vs. true teachers.

1 John Ephesians 2:8-9 1 John Ephesians 2:8-9 Christology
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-22

Jesus took only the bread and wine from the Passover meal — the Lord's Supper is the fulfillment of Passover, not its continuation

Q&A: Damien asks about the relationship between Passover and the Lord's Supper.

Lord's Supper Passover Old Covenant / New Covenant
Mike Winger idea 2018-09-05

Series context: Part 2 of a refutation of atheist YouTuber Aron Ra's video claiming the Bible has zero fulfilled prophecy.

Winger opens the weekly Tuesday theology/apologetics livestream and frames the ongoing series.

apologetics atheism Bible prophecy
Mike Winger idea 2018-09-05

Recap of Part 1: Aron Ra's list of supposed Messianic qualifications Jesus failed to meet was demonstrably wrong on its own terms.

Brief summary of last week's content before picking up where it left off.

apologetics Jesus Aron Ra
Mike Winger idea 2018-09-05

Prophecy has multiple functions: some is short-term (credentialing for contemporaries), some long-term (evidence for distant generations), some purely theological.

Winger extends the criteria discussion to explain why ancient prophets gave both near and far predictions.

hermeneutics Bible prophecy inspiration of Scripture
Mike Winger idea 2018-09-05

Introduction to Ezekiel 26 — the destruction of Tyre prophecy. Ra claims every part of it failed.

Winger sets up the main prophecy for the session, noting Ra will claim total failure before Winger walks through the text.

Ezekiel 26 apologetics Bible prophecy Ezekiel 26
Mike Winger idea 2018-09-05

Ezekiel 26 text walkthrough: the prophecy uses two distinct sets of pronouns — 'he' (Nebuchadnezzar) and 'they' (multiple later nations) — specifying different actors for different actions.

This pronoun distinction is the key to properly understanding the prophecy and refuting Ra's objection.

Ezekiel 26 hermeneutics Bible prophecy Ezekiel 26
Mike Winger idea 2018-09-05

The 'fishermen will cast their nets there' image refers to fishing over the submerged ruins of the city — the city was thrown into the water, so nets were cast on top of it.

Winger addresses a frequently misunderstood phrase in Ezekiel 26.

Ezekiel 26 hermeneutics Bible prophecy Ezekiel 26
Mike Winger idea 2018-09-05

Zechariah 9:9 — Ra claims it is not Messianic and requires Gentile conversion and expanded Israeli borders for fulfillment. The text contains none of those requirements.

Ra argues Christians misappropriate Jewish prophecy for Jesus.

Zechariah 9:9 apologetics Jesus Aron Ra