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Mike Winger Ideas (50)

Nabeel Qureshi visited Bethel for healing from stomach cancer and received hundreds of failed prophecies of healing

Bill Johnson's Theology and Movement Examined Biblically.

How Bill Johnson started the prophetic in Weaverville: asking people around a table 'what do you think Jesus would say?' then declaring they had just prophesied

Bill Johnson's Theology and Movement Examined Biblically.

Critique: what Johnson did in Weaverville is not wrong as an imaginative exercise, but calling it prophecy crosses a theological line

Bill Johnson's Theology and Movement Examined Biblically.

Three sources of prophecy in Scripture: from God, from Satan (false prophets), and from the prophet's own heart — the third type is what characterizes most Bethel prophecy

Bill Johnson's Theology and Movement Examined Biblically.

Jeremiah 23:16 — prophets prophesying 'a vision of their own heart, not from the mouth of the Lord'

Bill Johnson's Theology and Movement Examined Biblically.

Ezekiel 13:2 — 'prophesy against the prophets who prophesy out of their own heart'

Bill Johnson's Theology and Movement Examined Biblically.

Bethel's prophetic training exercise: pair off, give a 'word of knowledge' about your partner, then celebrate whether right or wrong — the goal is creating a risk-taking culture, not accurate prophecy

Bill Johnson's Theology and Movement Examined Biblically.

Bethel's prophetic culture is social engineering — a formula developed through experimentation and exported to other churches worldwide

Bill Johnson's Theology and Movement Examined Biblically.

Bethel's rule that prophecy must only encourage — inconsistent with biblical prophecy, which often includes rebuke; also leads to 'prophetic art,' 'prophetic dance,' and 'destiny cards'

Bill Johnson's Theology and Movement Examined Biblically.

Summary of Bethel's theological problems: filtered theology, emphasis on experience, superior/inferior truths used to dismiss inconvenient Scripture

Bill Johnson's Theology and Movement Examined Biblically.

Closing exhortation: don't pull back from healing, prophecy, or the Spirit because of Bethel's errors — the hunger of their movement reveals a real need the church should meet genuinely

Bill Johnson's Theology and Movement Examined Biblically.

People forget wrong guesses and remember right ones — the psychological principle behind why cold-reading / divine guessing appears more accurate than it is.

Fake Healing Videos Evaluated: Todd White, Tom Fischer and more

Biblical standard for prophecy: if you speak in the name of the Lord you must be right — a high accuracy rate, not 50% or even 30%, is required. Mike references his Sunday night verse-by-verse studies.

Fake Healing Videos Evaluated: Todd White, Tom Fischer and more

Modern prophecy is not equivalent to Scripture: not all prophecy becomes canonical; personal/local words from God are not universal obligations on the whole church.

Refuting Atheist Video: Bible Prophecy part 2

Deuteronomy 18:22 — false prophecy as test for identifying true vs. false prophets

Please Stop Saying Faith Is Belief Without Evidence

1 Corinthians 13 "the perfect" does not refer to the completed canon — cessationism refuted

Update - My Channel Has Been Restored! Thank you! (with Q&A)

1 Corinthians 13:8-13 in context: the love passage is embedded within 1 Cor 12-14, a sustained section on spiritual gifts.

Does This Verse Teach Cessationism? And a Bit On Bethel. 1 Cor 13_10-12

Rebuttal: the inscripturation claim for prophecy and knowledge is unsubstantiated; New Testament prophets generally did not produce Scripture.

Does This Verse Teach Cessationism? And a Bit On Bethel. 1 Cor 13_10-12

Verse-by-verse: v. 8 — love never ends; three gifts (prophecy, knowledge, tongues) will pass away; the context is clearly the spiritual gifts of 1 Cor 12-14.

Does This Verse Teach Cessationism? And a Bit On Bethel. 1 Cor 13_10-12

Verse-by-verse: vv. 9-10 — Paul includes himself in "we know in part," undermining the inscripturation reading; even apostolic knowledge is partial, not completable by writing.

Does This Verse Teach Cessationism? And a Bit On Bethel. 1 Cor 13_10-12

Critique of Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry: prophetic activation exercises using Uno cards reduce prophecy to social engineering and fabrication.

Does This Verse Teach Cessationism? And a Bit On Bethel. 1 Cor 13_10-12

Personal testimony: Winger reports a small number of personal experiences he believes were genuine prophetic insights that subsequently proved true.

Does This Verse Teach Cessationism? And a Bit On Bethel. 1 Cor 13_10-12

Winger's church practice: open to Spirit-prompted words but does not structure services around spiritual gifts; anti-normative posture.

Does This Verse Teach Cessationism? And a Bit On Bethel. 1 Cor 13_10-12

Q&A: Distinguishing personal prophecy from adding to Scripture (1 Corinthians 14:30)

My Ministry Update and Q&A

Announcements: Gospel of Mark series (verse-by-verse), speaking at OC Rescue Mission on fulfilled prophecy

Did Jesus Die on a Cross or a Stake? Here's the Evidence.

When showing Christianity to others, only external evidence and arguments are available, not the Spirit's witness

How You Can Know and Show Christianity Is True (Understanding Apologetic Methodology)

Jeremiah 28:9: the test of a true prophet is whether his words come to pass — an evidential approach to prophetic verification

How You Can Know and Show Christianity Is True (Understanding Apologetic Methodology)

Everything genuinely from God is true; the problem is misidentifying non-divine impressions as God speaking

How You Can Know and Show Christianity Is True (Understanding Apologetic Methodology)

Assessing modern prophecy claims: consistency in future fulfillment is the test

20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 3)

Paul's instructions on tongues and prophecy require self-control, proving the Spirit does not override the person's will

20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 6)

Vague YouTube prophecy channels are the perfect environment for false prophets; real prophecy requires verifiable fulfillment

20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 6)

Cessationism vs. continuationism — Mike holds continuationism but respects cessationists

Subscriber Hangout and Q&A - LIVE!

Hebrews 1:1-2 does not prohibit God from speaking to individuals today

20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 12)

Testing whether a vision or impression is from the Holy Spirit

20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 19)

Genuine predictive prophecy — written and datable before events — is a test that secular authors cannot pass. Psalm 22 and Isaiah 52-53 describe crucifixion details before the method was invented; Ezekiel 26 predicts the destruction of Tyre. Combined with historical confirmation that the events occurred, fulfilled prophecy supports divine inspiration.

Here's Me Using the Bible to Prove the Bible

Valid prophecy requires dateable pre-event writing. Manuscript evidence (e.g., Dead Sea Scrolls) places Isaiah and the Psalms before Jesus, making their messianic content genuine prediction rather than post-hoc composition. This distinguishes biblical prophecy from the Book of Mormon or Quran examples.

Here's Me Using the Bible to Prove the Bible

Strong feeling is not the same as God speaking — this applies to believers and non-believers alike

20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 1)

Mike identifies as charismatic (gifts active today, cessationism rejected) but not hyper-charismatic; he opposes fabricating gifts and "Acts 2.0" theology.

20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 14)

John 16:13 has primary application to the apostles; broadly applying it to all Christians sets the bar for Spirit-guidance too low

20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 17)

A rearview mirror test for Spirit-led claims: look back at past "God told me" moments and evaluate their accuracy

20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 17)

Discerning false prophets by their "fruit" (Matthew 7:15-20) — fruit is defined IN the passage as whether their teaching leads people to do God's will vs. lawlessness. It's not about charismatic experiences or emotional reactions.

20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 33)

About the “5-Fold Ministry”: Have you heard of the "5-Fold Ministry" way of thinking about apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers exercising those gifts today? And if so, what are your thoughts about it?

20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 37)

About 1 Kings 13: In 1 Kings 13, what are we supposed to learn from this passage? It seems as though the prophet lied to the man of God, tricking him so that he wouldn’t stay the course. Why lead him into this trap?

20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 37)

Explanation of Ezekiel 14 – Prophets: In Ezekiel 14:9 it says if a prophet is deceived, it’s the Lord who deceived him. Could you offer some explanation to this verse, as it seems out of character for God?

20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 38)

Promises vs. Prophecies: Is there a difference between a promise and a prophecy? Are all God's promises prophecies? Am I responsible if a prophecy told about me doesn't come to pass? A church leader told me these things.

20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 38)

About Ezekiel & OT Prophecies: What does Ezekiel 40-48 mean for us? What about OT prophecies about future sacrifices?

20 Questions episode 41 (part 2 after internet issues)

About “Rhema” (Sword of the Spirit): Can you explain the Greek word Rhema in Ephesians 6 when it talks about the “sword of the Spirit is the Word of God?” Is it Scripture, or like a word of wisdom, knowledge, or prophecy?

20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 42)

Historical Evidence for God’s Judgments?: Is there any historical evidence for any of the prophets of the old testament or for any judgments God pronounced on people?

20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 32)

What to Do When a Church Member is Out of Line: What should I do if a member of my fellowship with some mental issues has been making several false prophecies every day, saying literally "hear me for the lord speaks”?

20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 49)

How the Jewish Bible is Different: Why aren't there Bibles with the Hebrew order of the Old Testament? Some say the Hebrew order helps to show additional context and beauty of the Prophets and writings within Israel’s history. Any reason to stick to the English order? If either is fine, why aren’t there options?

20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 50)

Related Comments (20)

Cheryl Schatz 2019-01-07T20:53:50-07:00

Joseph, welcome to my blog! This is not an issue of prophecy. The context is instruction that God gave to Adam and Eve. God personally brought Eve to Adam in Genesis 2:22. In Genesis 3:8, Adam and Ev...

cheryl 2006-11-10T03:39:02-07:00

Thank you for your question. In 1 Corinthians 14:36 Paul is referring to a letter from the Corinthians that he has been answering throughout 1 Corinthians. Verses 34 and 35 of chapter 14 are a quote f...

Marg Mowczko 2010-11-07T22:44:18-07:00

Mark @138 You quoted Kostenberger as saying: “. . . for 1 Tim 2:12 is . . . there are only two acceptable ways of rendering that passage: (1) “I do not permit a woman to teach (error) or to domineer ...

Cheryl Schatz 2010-11-11T21:40:53-07:00

Mark, You said: > Your words not mine and words i never suggested or hinted at. Please spare me with polemical, un-helpful dialogue. I know that it isn’t what you said. You said that it is God’s p...

cheryl 2006-11-15T18:52:13-07:00

Ryan: The thought of the woman ruling the husband is not that she did so necessarily before the fall, but that her innate desire after the fall will be one of wanting to rule the man. This is how many...

cheryl 2006-11-16T00:53:11-07:00

Paula: Thanks for the questions! “The man†who has become like us keys in on the one whom God said would be tempted to eat from the tree of life. God is specifically talking about the man here, bu...

pinklight 2009-09-18T16:42:05-07:00

Truthseeker, “As egals, we can easily see that because Adam was created first does not mean he was the leader or ruler of Eve automatically. Likewise, I think it cannot be said from Genesis that we h...

Cheryl 2007-03-07T22:31:34-07:00

Kerryn, I forgot to answer this question: > Cheryl I am not sure how watertight the use of “he†in [Gen 3:15](logos4:///Bible/Ge 3.15) is for your argument… (My Greek is better than my Hebrew!)...

Cheryl 2006-12-06T21:27:18-07:00

Sam, I don’t think that these kinds of conversations expose ignorance at all. I think they are wonderful at helping us as Christians to experience “iron sharpening ironâ€. When I first understoo...

Cheryl 2007-06-18T17:35:08-07:00

Hi “H”, Boy that is a hard one for me to answer. The reason is that scripture is God-breathed and although it comes through man, it is actually God’s inspired words and his logic isn’t derived from t...

Cheryl 2007-06-18T17:35:30-07:00

Hi “H”, Boy that is a hard one for me to answer. The reason is that scripture is God-breathed and although it comes through man, it is actually God’s inspired words and his logic isn’t derived from t...

Cheryl 2007-06-18T17:35:50-07:00

Hi “H” Boy that is a hard one for me to answer. The reason is that scripture is God-breathed and although it comes through man, it is actually God’s inspired words and his logic isn’t derived from th...

Cheryl 2007-06-18T17:36:22-07:00

Hi “H” Boy that is a hard one for me to answer. The reason is that scripture is God-breathed and although it comes through man, it is actually God’s inspired words and his logic isn’t derived from th...

Cheryl 2007-09-29T23:05:13-07:00

It is interesting that you quote Genesis 3:16 as if God were commanding Adam to rule over Eve. Yet this is a prophecy not a command. And if it was a command, then why did God give it to Eve and not Ad...

paul 2007-09-30T22:19:45-07:00

Oh, one more thing. It was not a prophecy but a curse which is why God said it to eve. God also cursed man by cursing the ground saying that only by hard labor will he be able to sustain himself and h...

Cheryl 2007-09-29T23:05:13-07:00

It is interesting that you quote Genesis 3:16 as if God were commanding Adam to rule over Eve. Yet this is a prophecy not a command. And if it was a command, then why did God give it to Eve and not Ad...

paul 2007-09-30T22:19:45-07:00

Oh, one more thing. It was not a prophecy but a curse which is why God said it to eve. God also cursed man by cursing the ground saying that only by hard labor will he be able to sustain himself and h...

Cheryl 2007-07-07T11:12:52-07:00

I agree, Lin. Throughout the centuries we have seen many men defending very harsh restrictions on women including the restrictions on a woman’s right to vote. God predicted this in the 3rd chapter of ...

Cheryl 2007-08-20T08:30:35-07:00

Don, That is a good point – that hierarchists say the verses about women are clear, yet they disagree amongst each other about what the verses mean and the extent of the restriction. If it is so clea...

Cheryl 2007-09-09T14:32:25-07:00

Ryan, Thanks son for the reminder that dealing with Christians is sometimes akin to skillfully dealing with the cults where you must win them to truth in a loving and non-combative way. I do have to ...