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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@ymmotrojam It's the number of people all speaking at the same time in foreign t

@ymmotrojam It's the number of people all speaking at the same time in foreign tongues that Paul is concerned about. You don't see that?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@ymmotrojam Paul's point here is constructing a sort of worst case scenario, that is⎯if the entire church gathers and a large group all speaks in foreign tongues, there will be no way anyone could understand anything. It's one thing if 5 people are ...

@ymmotrojam Paul's point here is constructing a sort of worst case scenario, that is⎯if the entire church gathers and a large group all speaks in foreign tongues, there will be no way anyone could und

debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 You are explicitly commanded to not forbid speaking in tongues. And if you do not forbid this, then speaking in an intelligent language (which is far better according to Paul) should not be forbidden either. But you are f...

@ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 You are explicitly commanded to not forbid speaking in tongues. And if you do not forbid this, then speaking in an intelligent language (which is far better according to Pa

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-02

@PastorSJCamp Thanks for sharing those reflections! Without seeing the film, I was thinking maybe they meant that there was no new revelation, as in adding to scripture. But it seems that they don't understand valid prophecy and tongues, which is p...

@PastorSJCamp Thanks for sharing those reflections! Without seeing the film, I was thinking maybe they meant that there was no new revelation, as in adding to scripture. But it seems that they don't

debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-28

It seems there’s a resurgence in teaching that the spiritual gifts like tongues

It seems there’s a resurgence in teaching that the spiritual gifts like tongues and prophecy are not for today. I disagree! https://t.co/a5e5jKsby1

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-28

@MAClark85 I don’t think you understand the point of tongues and prophecy. I don’t think people were madly recording everything everyone said in the Corinthian church to put in into a collection of prophecies in the Bible. Prophecy is also explaini...

@MAClark85 I don’t think you understand the point of tongues and prophecy. I don’t think people were madly recording everything everyone said in the Corinthian church to put in into a collection of p

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-05

@Robert_S_Morley @FredoLives @_nomadic_soul Wow, the British are really good at insulting someone and sounding high class. Reminds me of the smooth sophisticated tripe against the God of the Bible that rolls off the tongue from Richard Dawkins. Nat...

@Robert_S_Morley @FredoLives @_nomadic_soul Wow, the British are really good at insulting someone and sounding high class. Reminds me of the smooth sophisticated tripe against the God of the Bible th

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-23

@BogdanOancea77 I left out tongues because Twitter limits the characters in my post when I post a thread all at once, so I wanted to highlight the parts. As for your comment "Praying in tongues & prophesying was allowed for everybody": a. About ...

@BogdanOancea77 I left out tongues because Twitter limits the characters in my post when I post a thread all at once, so I wanted to highlight the parts. As for your comment "Praying in tongues &

general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-13

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz There were too much tongues so some Judaizers came in and tried to fix things by saying “women shouldn’t speak”. To them, having come from a Jewish context it would have been you heard of to have women speak. Paul...

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz There were too much tongues so some Judaizers came in and tried to fix things by saying “women shouldn’t speak”. To them, having come from a Jewish context it would

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Scripture Commentary debate point

I came across an excellent post written very tongue-in-cheek about the issue of slavery using all of the standard arguments against women teaching the bible to men. It is worth the read and the link is here

[counterargument] From: Slavery Still An Issue Today So Says The Wilderness Crier

counterargument
Theology verse entry

1 Corinthians 12:28

Sections: debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Corinthians 12:28 apostles prophets teachers
Theology verse entry

1 Corinthians 14:1, 5

Sections: debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Corinthians 14:1, 5 prophecy spiritual gifts women prophesying
Theology verse entry

1 Corinthians 14:12, 16, 29-31

Sections: exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Corinthians 14:12, 16, 29-31 edification tongues interpretation
Theology verse entry

1 Peter 3:1-9

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Peter 3:1-9 submission,wives,husbands,Sarah,mutual-honor,egalitarian,context,obedience,intimidation
Theology verse entry

1 Corinthians 8:6

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Corinthians 8:6 lordship,Jesus,authority,husbands,egalitarian
Theology verse entry

Genesis 1:26-28

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Genesis 1:26-28 creation,dominion,co-equal,image of God,male and female,egalitarian,gender roles,imago dei,equality
Theology verse entry

Proverbs 31:10-31

Sections: exegesis, greek_analysis

Proverbs 31:10-31 excellent wife,wisdom,commerce,public teaching,economic independence,egalitarian,women leadership
Theology verse entry

1 Corinthians 14:23-25

Sections: exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Corinthians 14:23-25 prophecy,all prophesy,unbelievers,conviction,edification,egalitarian
Theology verse entry

Acts 2:17-18

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Acts 2:17-18 pentecost,prophecy,sons daughters,Holy Spirit,last days,egalitarian,Joel
Theology verse entry

1 Corinthians 14:33-37

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Corinthians 14:33-37 interpolation,textual criticism,silence,quotation,Western text,women speaking,women silent,Corinthian quotation,oral law,Pharisees,rhetorical refutation,eta particle,women in ministry,egalitarian,complementarian debate
Theology verse entry

1 Corinthians 14:26

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Corinthians 14:26 universal participation,worship,gifts,edification,no gender restriction,each one
Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 3:8-13

Sections: exegesis

1 Timothy 3:8-13 deacons,women deacons,gynaikas,likewise,hosautos,diakonos,phoebe,women leadership,huebner
Theology verse entry

Joel 2:28-29

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Joel 2:28-29 prophecy,Spirit outpouring,daughters,women prophets,Pentecost,egalitarian,Joel,Acts 2,Peter sermon,last days
Theology verse entry

Philippians 2:5-11

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Philippians 2:5-11 kenosis,incarnation,Christ hymn,self-emptying,EFS,Trinity,morphē theou,equality with God,exaltation
Theology greek term

ἰδιώτης (idiōtēs)

ordinary person / ungifted one / uninitiated

greek
Theology greek term

κύριος (kyrios)

lord / master / sir

greek
Theology greek term

ὥστε (hoste)

therefore, so then, consequently

greek
Theology greek term

μὴ κωλύετε (me koluete)

do not forbid, stop forbidding

greek
Theology greek term

προφητεύσουσιν (prophēteusousin)

they will prophesy (future active indicative, 3rd plural)

greek
Mike Winger idea 2022-04-13

1 Timothy 3:8-13: deacon requirements with the key question of verse 11 -- wives or women deacons?

Mike turns to the definitive passage on deacon qualifications.

1 Timothy 3:11 1 Timothy 3:8-13 women deacons 1 Timothy 3:11 1 Timothy 3:8-13
Mike Winger idea 2022-04-13

Argument for women deacons: the word 'likewise' creates a three-part structure (elders, deacons, women)

Mike builds the case for reading verse 11 as female deacons.

1 Timothy 3:11 women deacons 1 Timothy 3:11 hosautos (likewise)
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-30

1 Corinthians 12:28 — 'administrating' (leadership) appears as a gift distinct from the office of teacher

Mike examines another gifts list.

1 Corinthians 12:28 apostles 1 Corinthians 12:28 kubernesis (administrating)
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-30

1 Corinthians 12:8-11 — speaking gifts (word of wisdom, word of knowledge, tongues, interpretation) seem available to women by analogy with prophecy

Mike examines another gifts list and finds it would be arbitrary to say women can prophesy but not have other speaking gifts.

1 Corinthians 12:8-11 1 Corinthians 12:8-11 word of wisdom word of knowledge
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-30

1 Peter 4:10-11 — 'whoever speaks' includes all speaking gifts and all are meant to be used

Mike cites 1 Peter to show gifts are meant to be used, not kept dormant.

1 Peter 4:10-11 spiritual gifts 1 Peter 4:10-11
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-30

1 Corinthians 12:29-30 — Paul's rhetorical questions show not everyone is supposed to teach

Mike cites Paul's own words against the idea that all Christians should have a teaching ministry.

1 Corinthians 12:29-30 Philip Payne teaching ministry 1 Corinthians 12:29-30
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Introduction of View 3: The Education/Clatter View

Mike introduces a cluster of related views that shift the focus from women per se to education or disruptive behavior.

education view clatter view Dionysus cult
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Style Argument 2: The passage interrupts the flow of instructions about prophets -- rebutted

Mike addresses the claim that these verses break the flow of the prophecy discussion.

judging prophecy view flow of argument prophecy section
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

The refutation view creates internally contradictory beliefs about the Corinthians

Mike argues the refutation view requires believing contradictory things about Corinthian church practice simultaneously.

1 Corinthians 11 1 Corinthians 11 Corinthian church practices internal consistency
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Three species of the education/clatter view explained

Mike breaks down the three sub-views within this interpretive category.

education view social decorum view Dionysus/Bacchus cult view
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

The Bacchus/Dionysus cult clatter explanation from CBE International

Mike examines the view promoted by the Center for Biblical Equality (CBE International) connecting the passage to ecstatic cult practices.

Livy CBE International Bacchus/Dionysus cult
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Problem 2 with the cult view: why are questions forbidden if the issue is screaming?

Mike identifies the disconnect between ecstatic behavior and the passage's content about questions.

1 Corinthians 14:35 laleo 1 Corinthians 14:35 questions vs. ecstatic behavior
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

The word 'sigao' (keep silent) in 1 Corinthians 14 consistently refers to limited, context-specific silence

Mike examines how the same Greek word for silence is used in the same chapter.

1 Corinthians 14:28 1 Corinthians 14:30 Anthony Thiselton sigao 1 Corinthians 14:28
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Five possible interpretations of what kind of silence is meant in verse 34

Mike lists the options for what specific type of silence verse 34 commands.

Beth Allison Barr Craig Keener judging prophecy view
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Acts 2 and the Joel prophecy: men and women prophesied publicly at Pentecost

Mike cites Acts 2 as scriptural evidence against the utter silence view.

Joel 2 Acts 2:15-18 Joel 2 women prophesying Acts 2:15-18
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Judging Prophecy Hinge 1: Was testing prophecy a real practice in the early church?

Mike establishes that testing/judging prophecy was indeed a regular church practice.

1 John 4:1 1 Corinthians 12:10 1 John 4:1 testing prophecy 1 Corinthians 12:10
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Judging Prophecy Hinge 2: The passage's structure mirrors tongues/interpretation with prophecy/judging

Mike shows how 1 Corinthians 14's structure supports the judging prophecy view.

1 Corinthians 14:29 1 Corinthians 14:6-28 1 Corinthians 14:29 1 Corinthians 14:6-28 structural parallel
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

The 'spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets' means self-control, not a hierarchy

Mike interprets verse 32 as a parenthetical about prophets' ability to control themselves.

1 Corinthians 14:32 hupotasso 1 Corinthians 14:32 prophetic self-control
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Only the judging prophecy view properly accounts for the prophetic context running through the entire passage

Mike shows prophecy is the continuous context from verse 29 through the end of the chapter.

1 Corinthians 14:37 1 Corinthians 14:39-40 1 Corinthians 14:37 1 Corinthians 14:39-40 prophetic context
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-07

First healing video analyzed: a healer commands a boy's short hand to grow, employing extended emotional pressure, crowd chanting, and speaking in tongues before physically pushing the arm forward.

Playing and analyzing the first example video — the most egregious case of fraud presented in the stream.

healing fraud speaking in tongues psychological manipulation
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-07

Q&A: Could demons be behind Todd White's healings? Mike thinks the visible examples are explainable by natural means; for unexplained cases the options are God acting despite doctrinal error, or demonic — but Christians should not default to 'demonic' for things that are merely unusual.

Viewer question from Jas Stewart about demonic involvement in Todd White's ministry.

discernment Todd White speaking in tongues
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