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Why Mike avoided the women in ministry topic for years

Mike shares the personal background of why he refused to address this topic for years, instructing his assistant Sarah to not send him questions about it.

Why Mike avoided the women in ministry topic for years

Mike's initial openness to egalitarian arguments and respect for egalitarian scholars

The series has 40+ hours of free content and has had over 4 million views

Three beliefs to honor God: what God says about men and women is true, good, and needful

Women as 'sons of God' — Galatians 3:26-28

Sports analogy: men and women are fundamentally different and not interchangeable

Mike would vote for a woman president if best option but not celebrate it as a victory for equality

Early church acknowledged women deacons; female Deacon-type needs were real

When does a boy become a man? Puberty too young, 18 workable, adulting principle preferred

Biblical complementarianism is a buffer against LGBT ideology

Warning: egalitarians are doing great harm to the church despite good intentions

Encouragement to women pastors who have changed their minds

Massive scope of scholarly debate on 1 Timothy 2

Transition: the passage looks straightforward but massive debate exists

Present tense of epitrepo: ongoing policy vs. temporary restriction

Henry Scott Baldwin's survey of authenteo usage

Additional church fathers and their testimony on 1 Tim 2:12

Kostenberger's syntactic study: two infinitives joined by oude

Introduction to 'saved through childbearing' (1 Tim 2:15): the most difficult verse

Weaknesses of View 4: teknogonia as synecdoche is unsupported and singleness tension

The definite article before 'childbearing' as soft evidence for the Messianic view

Best objection to the Messianic view: teknogonia is an odd word choice for the Messiah

Paul may have used shorthand with Timothy based on shared knowledge

Call to not sit on the fence unnecessarily

JW claim: Jesus resurrected as spirit, not bodily

Bill Johnson misinterprets Acts 2:42 — 'the Apostles' teaching' — to mean fresh contemporary apostolic revelation, not the New Testament

Bill Johnson's 'superior and inferior truths' teaching: the judgment of God is true but the mercy of God is 'more true'; anything not seen in Jesus is an inferior truth

Matthew 6:10 ('on earth as it is in heaven') is the central practical scripture of Bethel's theology — they interpret it as God manifesting heaven's conditions on earth right now

Nabeel Qureshi visited Bethel for healing from stomach cancer and received hundreds of failed prophecies of healing

Bethel systematically lowers the threshold for confirming healings: vague words of knowledge, mass prayer, and immediate crowd celebration regardless of actual outcome

'You lost your healing' — Bethel reframes failed healings as loss rather than non-occurrence, requiring a program on 'how to keep your healing'

How Bill Johnson started the prophetic in Weaverville: asking people around a table 'what do you think Jesus would say?' then declaring they had just prophesied

Critique: what Johnson did in Weaverville is not wrong as an imaginative exercise, but calling it prophecy crosses a theological line

Bethel's prophetic training exercise: pair off, give a 'word of knowledge' about your partner, then celebrate whether right or wrong — the goal is creating a risk-taking culture, not accurate prophecy

Q&A — Bethel's eschatology: they hold a dominion theology, believing the church should 'disciple the nations' — meaning transform entire nations, not just individuals

The Rosetta Stone had only recently been found; Egyptology was nascent in 1835 — giving Smith apparent cover

LDS Church president's diary corroborates that Smith translated Abraham's own handwriting using the Urim and Thummim

The original papyri were discovered in 1966–1967 at the Metropolitan Museum of Art and given to BYU

LDS professor at BYU commented that the rediscovery of the papyri was 'a far more' significant test of LDS claims

Smith misidentified Egyptian deities; the figures at the bottom are canopic jars, not gods with the names Smith assigned

Dr. James Henry Breasted (University of Chicago / Haskell Oriental Museum) calls Smith's interpretations wrong and shows he was unacquainted with basic Egyptian facts

Rev. Prof. C.A. Briggs and a professor from University of Berlin identify the images as standard Book of the Dead scenes easily recognizable to any trained Egyptologist

The LDS Church's own official article on lds.org admits the characters on the papyri do not match the Book of Abraham text

LDS Church's official position: understand the Book of Abraham through 'careful study of its teachings and by the witness of the Holy Spirit'

Personal testimony: Mike was raised as a Mormon; this evidence would have been world-shattering to him

Mike urges Mormons in positions of authority to speak out about the fraud even if it costs them relationships and community

LDS apologist argument #2: the 'Long Scroll Theory' — a different, longer, lost scroll within the same collection contained the real Book of Abraham source

LDS apologist argument #3: Smith did not 'translate' in the conventional sense — he was receiving spiritual impressions triggered by the images

LDS apologist argument #4: we don't know enough about Egyptology yet — future discoveries might vindicate Smith

The Watchtower reversed its position on blood fractions (e.g., albumin) between 1956 and 1982 without acknowledging the change.

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