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1 Corinthians 14:29 eldership Craig Keener 1 Corinthians 14:29

Debate over who judges prophecy: prophets, elders, or everyone?

Mike addresses the objection that it was prophets, not elders, who judged prophecy.

1 Corinthians 12:10 1 Corinthians 14:1 1 Corinthians 14:39 1 Corinthians 12:10 1 Corinthians 14:1 1 Corinthians 14:39

Problems with the 'other prophets judge prophecy' view

Mike argues against the interpretation that only other prophets test prophecy.

judging prophecy church governance elder role abandonment

If elders do not judge prophecy, they abandon their God-given role

Mike argues the elder's doctrinal role makes their involvement in prophecy judgment unavoidable.

Mormonism self-validation prohibition Islam

It may not be necessary to decide exclusively who judged prophecy

Mike suggests the identity of the judges may not need to be precisely defined for the view to work.

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This video is Part 13, the final video assembling all puzzle pieces from prior 12 videos

Mike explains the relationship between this summary/application video and the previous detailed videos in the series.

1 Timothy 2:12 methodology women in ministry series 1 Timothy 2:12

Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Women prophesying congregationally in the Bible — some speech to mixed groups is permitted

Mike uses biblical prophecy as evidence women can speak in congregational settings.

1 Corinthians 11 Luke 2 Acts 21 Deborah 1 Corinthians 11 women prophesying

Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

1 Corinthians 14:29-35 — women silent in judging prophecy, not silent in general

Mike interprets the controversial silence passage.

1 Corinthians 11 John MacArthur 1 Corinthians 14:29-35 1 Corinthians 11 John MacArthur judgment of prophecy

Mike Winger idea 2023-11-22

Conclusion 7: 'Quiet' does not mean total silence

Mike restates the meaning of hesychia for practical application.

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Bill Johnson Kris Vallotton Bethel Church

Introduction: purpose is biblical analysis of Bill Johnson, Kris Vallotton, and the broader Bethel movement

Opening segment establishing scope and methodology of the livestream

Bill Johnson Kris Vallotton apostle

Bill Johnson considers himself an apostle, though he never explicitly claims the title — the structure and vibe of Bethel communicates it implicitly

Mike examines the apostolic self-understanding of Bill Johnson

Bill Johnson spiritual gifts prophecy

How Bill Johnson started the prophetic in Weaverville: asking people around a table 'what do you think Jesus would say?' then declaring they had just prophesied

Mike plays a direct video clip of Johnson explaining his methodology for launching the prophetic ministry

Jeremiah 23:16 Ezekiel 13:2 prophecy false prophecy Jeremiah 23:16

Three sources of prophecy in Scripture: from God, from Satan (false prophets), and from the prophet's own heart — the third type is what characterizes most Bethel prophecy

Mike introduces a biblical taxonomy of prophetic sources from Jeremiah and Ezekiel

Jeremiah 23:16 Jeremiah 23:25-26 prophecy false prophecy Jeremiah 23:16

Jeremiah 23:16 — prophets prophesying 'a vision of their own heart, not from the mouth of the Lord'

Mike cites the specific Jeremiah text that establishes the third category of prophecy

Ezekiel 13:2 prophecy false prophecy Ezekiel 13:2

Ezekiel 13:2 — 'prophesy against the prophets who prophesy out of their own heart'

Mike cites a second OT prophet condemning heart-sourced prophecy

spiritual gifts Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry social engineering

Bethel's prophetic training exercise: pair off, give a 'word of knowledge' about your partner, then celebrate whether right or wrong — the goal is creating a risk-taking culture, not accurate prophecy

Mike plays a video of a Bethel training session to show how prophetic culture is manufactured

Bethel Church spiritual gifts social engineering

Bethel's prophetic culture is social engineering — a formula developed through experimentation and exported to other churches worldwide

Mike's meta-level analysis of what Bethel is doing with prophecy

Kris Vallotton Bethel Church prophecy

Bethel's rule that prophecy must only encourage — inconsistent with biblical prophecy, which often includes rebuke; also leads to 'prophetic art,' 'prophetic dance,' and 'destiny cards'

Mike critiques the artificial filter on prophecy and traces its trajectory into increasingly strange practices

John 5:19 prayer Bill Johnson healing theology

John 5:19 refutes Johnson's teaching that God responds to human declarations — Jesus only did what He saw the Father doing, not the reverse

Mike cites a specific text to challenge one of Johnson's specific claims about how God responds to human proclamation

John 1:14 Bill Johnson Kenneth Copeland Word of Faith

Q&A — Does Johnson teach 'little gods' theology? No — he teaches something more subtle: 'the Word becoming flesh again' in believers as they speak prophetically and heal

Q&A question from Rona, comparing Johnson to Kenneth Copeland

translation comparison Joseph Smith testability of religious claims

Unlike the Book of Mormon (golden plates taken away), the Book of Abraham papyri CAN be tested — this is unique

The Book of Abraham as a uniquely testable LDS truth claim

Mormonism prophetic authority false prophet

Central apologetic argument: if Smith lied about one thing as a prophet, he is a false prophet — and the evidence proves he lied

The logical conclusion of the Book of Abraham argument

Deuteronomy 18:20 Deuteronomy false prophet Joseph Smith Deuteronomy 18:20

Deuteronomy 18: the test for a false prophet — a prophet who speaks in God's name what God has not commanded shall die

Scriptural framework for evaluating false prophecy

Mormonism prophetic accountability LDS Church

Mike urges Mormons in positions of authority to speak out about the fraud even if it costs them relationships and community

Pastoral/ethical challenge to Mormons who know the truth

Jeremiah 31 Mormonism Islam Book of Abraham

Canonical closure argument: the New Testament closes the canon — there is no room for a new book of scripture

Theological argument against the LDS claim to new scripture

prophecy confirmation bias cold reading

People forget wrong guesses and remember right ones — the psychological principle behind why cold-reading / divine guessing appears more accurate than it is.

Explanation of the cognitive bias that makes Todd White's guessing seem supernatural.

Deuteronomy 18 Deuteronomy 18 prophecy word of knowledge

Biblical standard for prophecy: if you speak in the name of the Lord you must be right — a high accuracy rate, not 50% or even 30%, is required. Mike references his Sunday night verse-by-verse studies.

Theological grounding for critiquing Todd White's prophetic/word-of-knowledge claims.

Todd White cold reading word of knowledge

Todd White's 'divine knowing' is undermined by the guessing game that precedes it — if he already knew, why ask multiple wrong questions first?

Logical critique of Todd White's prophetic claims.

Matthew 7:21-23 discernment healing Matthew 7:21-23

Q&A: The Bible supports both sides — go out and pray for healing confidently, AND Jesus warned that false healers will claim to have cast out demons and healed in his name while he never knew them.

Viewer question about whether fake healing is condemned in the Bible.

eschatology David Mead numerology

David Mead's use of 'generation' and the founding of Israel (1948) as a prophetic countdown trigger

Mike briefly addresses Mead's broader eschatological system, which ties generation-counting to 1948.

Revelation Isaiah Jeremiah hermeneutics Old Testament prophecy interpretation

Reason 2: Future prophecy is extremely challenging — Revelation requires knowledge of the whole Old Testament

Second reason people are vulnerable to false predictions.

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Reason 3: We allow people to break interpretive rules when handling prophecy — eisegesis masquerading as exegesis

Third reason people fall for false predictions.

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Reason 4: We see 'fulfillment' everywhere — vague general events matching vague prophetic categories creates false confirmation

Fourth reason people fall for false predictions.

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Reason 7: Astrological 'snake oil' — rare celestial events exploited as prophetic signs

Seventh reason people fall for false predictions.

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Q&A: Can someone who made false prophecies be restored to vocational ministry after genuine repentance?

Question from Ryan Tanner.

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Q&A: Is biblical numerology nonsense? Distinction between symbolic numbers and predictive numerological systems

Question from Jessie Swanger.

Mormonism prophetic authority Joseph Smith

Joseph Smith is the founder and first prophet of Mormonism, and his revelations form the doctrinal basis of the faith.

Background on Joseph Smith before quoting him directly from the King Follett sermon.

Joseph Smith King Follett Sermon prophetic inspiration

The King Follett Sermon: delivered April 7, 1844 at a funeral with ~20,000 present; Joseph Smith claimed to speak under inspiration to 'all ye ends of the earth.'

Mike introduces the King Follett Sermon as the primary documentary source for Mormon theology about the nature of God.

epistemology Mormon testimony burning in the bosom

Q&A: Most Mormons are not convinced by intellectual arguments — they are committed emotionally through 'testimony,' an emotionally validated belief experience.

Viewer question: 'What would Mike suggest to say to a Mormon to convince them that Christianity is truth?'

LDS doctrinal evolution LDS polygamy LDS and race

Q&A: The LDS church is already beginning to change its doctrine — prioritizing organizational health over theological integrity, which started with polygamy and race issues.

Viewer question from 'Rob Donahue': Will the Utah LDS church change its doctrine due to the information age?

Pearl of Great Price Book of Mormon Doctrine and Covenants

The LDS church is quietly distancing itself from past presidential statements and Journal of Discourses rather than formally changing doctrine — 'plausible deniability.'

Mike explains the mechanism by which Mormonism is changing: not reforming doctrine but retreating from its sources.

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Parallel accounts of ascension or resurrection in other ancient figures would not lower Mike's confidence in Jesus's resurrection because of the evidential asymmetry

Q&A — Cam Spears's question about whether pre-Christian resurrection/ascension stories would lower confidence

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Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Psalm 22: David was not a prophet? Mike rebuts and notes Psalm 22 clearly speaks of future events

Ra argues Psalm 22 is not messianic because (1) David was not a prophet, (2) the Psalms are in the 'writings' section not the 'prophets,' and (3) David never experienced anything like what's described

Psalm 22 Messianic prophecy Psalm 22 David as prophet

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Reason 5 affirmed and answered: Fulfilled prophecy is the correct test for biblical inspiration, and the Bible passes it

The skeptic argues that an inspired Bible would contain specific, verifiable prophecies — but calls biblical prophecies 'feeble in the extreme.'

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Q&A: Matthew 2:23 — which prophet foretold Jesus would be called a Nazarene?

Viewer question about a fulfilled prophecy citation in Matthew that has no clear Old Testament source.

Isaiah Matthew 2:23 fulfilled prophecy Isaiah Matthew 2:23

eschatology failed apocalyptic prophet charge Bertrand Russell

Introduction: the topic is eschatology and the 'failed apocalyptic prophet' charge against Jesus

Mike opens the livestream, signals the depth of preparation, and identifies the central question driving the stream.

Mark 13:30 Luke 21:32 Matthew 10:23 Mark 13:30 Luke 21:32 Matthew 10:23

Five key Jesus sayings that appear to predict an imminent second coming

Mike quotes the specific texts that drive the 'failed prophet' accusation before addressing them.

preterism full preterism partial preterism

Preterism as one response to the 'failed prophet' problem

Mike introduces preterism as the main alternative to his own futurist interpretation, with no intent to attack preterists.

Bible study methodology critical engagement text over tradition

Pedagogical approach: encourage critical engagement with the text regardless of prior view

Mike sets expectations for how viewers should engage the teaching.

Isaiah 7:14 partial and total fulfillment prophetic fulfillment Elijah typology

Partial and total fulfillment: Mike's interpretive framework for prophecy

Mike presents the first of two key background concepts before diving into Mark 13.