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Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Pauline style argument for the refutation view: three points that fail

Mike addresses three ways proponents claim Paul would not have said what is in verses 34-35.

Genesis 2 1 Corinthians 11:8-10 Genesis 2 Gordon Fee Pauline style
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Paul already cited the relevant OT passages in 1 Corinthians 11

Mike explains why Paul does not quote a specific OT verse when saying 'as the law also says' in 14:34.

Genesis 2 1 Corinthians 11:8-10 creation order Genesis 2 appeal to the law
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

What does 'the law' mean in 1 Corinthians 14:34?

Mike addresses the debate over what 'the law' refers to: Roman law, Jewish law, local custom, or the Old Testament.

the law Roman law Jewish oral law
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Paul uses 'the law' to refer to all of scripture, not just the Pentateuch

Mike argues that 'law' in Paul's usage can mean the Old Testament generally, citing 1 Corinthians 14:21.

1 Corinthians 14:21 Isaiah 28:11-12 John 12:34 1 Corinthians 14:21 Isaiah 28:11-12 John 12:34
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Jesus also uses 'law' to refer to Psalms, not just the Pentateuch

Mike provides additional evidence that 'the law' was used broadly in the NT.

John 15:25 Psalm 35:19 Psalm 69:4 law as scripture John 15:25 Psalm 35:19
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Paul's consistent pattern: he qualifies Corinthian slogans with wisdom rather than fully disagreeing

Mike shows from multiple examples that Paul never fully disagrees with Corinthian slogans.

1 Corinthians 6:12 1 Corinthians 10:23 Corinthian slogans 1 Corinthians 6:12 1 Corinthians 10:23
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Education View Hinge 3: Why is submission an issue if it is about education?

Mike identifies the fatal disconnect between the education view and Paul's mention of submission.

1 Corinthians 11 creation order submission 1 Corinthians 11
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Jesus' use of Sabbath examples to push back against over-application

Mike draws a parallel between Jesus pushing back on Pharisees' Sabbath rules and gender role over-application.

John 7:23 Matthew 12 John 7:23 Matthew 12 Sabbath healing
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Feminism took unhealthy male self-advancement and transferred it to women

Mike critiques the progression from Industrial Revolution to feminism.

Industrial Revolution feminism critique LGBT
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Encouragement to women pastors who have changed their minds

Mike directly addresses women currently in pastoral roles who now agree with his conclusions.

2 Kings 22-23 women pastors Philip Payne King Josiah
Mike Winger idea 2023-11-22

Paul's emphasis on the humanity/birth of Jesus supports a childbearing reference

Mike shows that Paul does emphasize the Incarnation and birth of Christ in his theology.

Galatians 4:4 Incarnation Galatians 4:4 born of a woman
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-21

The Watchtower condemned vaccinations as Satanic and a violation of God's covenant with Noah (1921, 1931), then reversed position in 1952 citing legal liability.

Mike adds vaccinations as a third case of Watchtower medical hypocrisy and doctrinal reversal.

Watchtower doctrinal reversal doctrinal hypocrisy vaccination doctrine
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-21

Genesis 9:4 is a food command, not a medical command — and intravenous administration is categorically different from eating.

Mike directly refutes the Watchtower's application of Genesis 9:4 to blood transfusions.

Genesis 9:4 IV blood equals eating blood argument Genesis 9:4 eating blood prohibition
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-21

Leviticus 17:13-14 is specifically Levitical (Mosaic) law given to Israel, and even within that law the Watchtower selectively ignores the parallel ban on eating fat (Leviticus 3:17).

Mike applies the same hermeneutical critique to the second Watchtower proof text.

Leviticus 17:13-14 Leviticus 3:17 Leviticus 17:13-14 Leviticus 3:17 Mosaic law applicability
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-21

Even granting the strongest interpretation of the blood passages (including Acts 15:29), the texts concern eating blood — not intravenous medicine — so neither position on eating blood requires opposing transfusions.

Mike presents a framework argument that transcends the eating-blood debate: even if you believe eating blood is wrong, that does not require opposing transfusions.

Genesis 9:4 Acts 15:29 Genesis 9:4 Acts 15:29 eating blood prohibition
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-21

Orthodox Jews — who observe the law far more strictly than JWs — permit blood transfusions and even organize blood drives, refuting the JW interpretation.

Mike uses Orthodox Jewish practice as an authoritative comparative example to undermine the Watchtower's reading of the OT blood laws.

blood transfusion eating blood prohibition Mosaic law applicability
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-21

Jesus' principle of the greater good (Luke 14:1-6): even if blood transfusion were a moral rule violation, the greater good of saving life would override it.

Mike applies Jesus' Sabbath healing principle as a hypothetical override argument, granting the Watchtower's premise for argument's sake.

Luke 14:1-6 Sabbath healing blood as life symbol Luke 14:1-6
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-21

Luke 6: Jesus endorses David eating the bread of the Presence as evidence that preserving life can override ritual law.

Mike cites a second Sabbath/law-violation precedent from Jesus to reinforce the greater-good principle.

Luke 6 1 Samuel 21 greater good principle Jesus Luke 6
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-21

1 Corinthians 8:8 and Romans 14:14: food does not define one's standing before God; nothing is inherently unclean for the Christian.

Mike shifts from the hypothetical framework to his actual position: there is no food-law prohibition on blood for Christians.

1 Corinthians 8:8 Romans 14:14 Christian freedom 1 Corinthians 8:8 Romans 14:14
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-21

Matthew 15:10-11: Jesus declares it is not what enters the mouth that defiles a person, abolishing food-based defilement categories.

Mike cites Jesus' direct teaching on defilement to undercut the Watchtower's food-law framework.

Matthew 15:10-11 Jesus food law abrogation Matthew 15:10-11
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-21

Colossians 2:16-20: the JW misapplication of 'let no one judge you' to justify their blood refusal, when the passage actually condemns submission to regulations about food and drink as worldly.

Mike refutes a common JW counter-use of Colossians 2 to defend their blood doctrine.

Colossians 2:16 Colossians 2:20-22 Christian freedom food law abrogation Colossians 2:16
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-21

Summary of the biblical argument: blood transfusions are not eating blood; even if eating blood were prohibited, transfusions would be exempt; in Christ there is no food-purity prohibition at all; and even if there were, saving life overrides it.

Mike synthesizes the full biblical case before opening to Q&A.

blood transfusion Christian freedom greater good principle
Mike Winger idea 2018-03-14

Protestant counter using Romans 3:28 and Romans 4 — Abraham justified by faith, not works

Presenting the Protestant response to James 2:24

Romans 3:28 Romans 4 justification by faith Abraham Romans 3:28
Mike Winger idea 2018-03-14

Degrees of sin — some sins are worse than others; the Law has different consequences; Jesus said some will suffer greater judgment

Within the Q&A on murder and saving faith

Matthew degrees of sin Mosaic Law judgment
Mike Winger idea 2018-03-14

Q&A: Romans 4:16 — is it about saving faith? Is Abraham a prototype for saving faith?

Viewer asks Mike's view on Romans 4:16

Romans 4:16 justification by faith Abraham saving faith
Mike Winger idea 2018-03-21

Background of 2 Maccabees 12: Judas Maccabeus burying fallen Jewish soldiers who were carrying idolatrous amulets

Historical and narrative context for the passage

idolatry 2 Maccabees 12:38-46 Judas Maccabeus
Mike Winger idea 2018-03-21

Catholic apologetic response: the amulets were 'lucky charms' not idolatrous — Jimmy Akin's baseball sock analogy

Catholic attempt to neutralize the mortal sin problem in 2 Maccabees

eisegesis Catholic Answers idolatry
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Leviticus purification rituals were quarantine protocols, not magic healing spells

Ra claims the Bible teaches that ritual spells can purify and cure illness, when diseases are actually caused by pathogens

Leviticus 14 Leviticus 14 Purification rituals Quarantine laws
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Mosaic sanitation laws anticipated modern hygiene knowledge (fecal disposal, contamination)

Continuing the response to Ra's charge that rituals don't cure illness

Deuteronomy 23:12-13 Bible and science Mosaic law Bible and medicine
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Psalm 22:16 textual debate: 'like a lion' vs. 'they pierced' — three sources support 'pierced'

Ra claims 'they pierced my hands and feet' in Psalm 22:16 is a mistranslation — the correct Hebrew is 'like a lion they were at my hands and feet'

Psalm 22:16 Septuagint Psalm 22:16 Crucifixion prophecy
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-29

Q&A: How do you persuade someone who refuses to engage with prophecy evidence?

Viewer asks how to get through to someone who won't listen to fulfilled prophecy arguments

Apologetics methodology Evangelism Holy Spirit's role in conversion
Mike Winger idea 2018-04-11

Reason 6 addressed: Scientific foreknowledge in the Bible — prophecy is superior to scientific insight as apologetic evidence

The skeptic argues an inspired Bible would contain scientific knowledge humans couldn't have had (e.g., quantum mechanics, germ theory). Mike largely treats this as a restatement of Reason 5.

Genesis 1 Hebrews 11:3 Genesis 1 inspiration tests scientific foreknowledge
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-22

CoG teaches Saturday Sabbath-keeping is required for salvation

Chapter 1 of Kim's book. Page 15 states Sabbath must be kept 'to enter eternal rest.' Page 25 states rejecting the Sabbath brings God's judgment; teaching against it earns hell.

World Mission Society Church of God salvation by works/observance Sabbath
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-22

Christians are not under the Mosaic law — Sabbath observance is a liberty, not a requirement for salvation

Mike's rebuttal to Kim's Sabbath-as-salvation teaching.

Romans 14:5 Colossians 2:16-17 Sabbath law vs. grace Romans 14:5
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-22

Kim selectively applies Old Testament law — takes Sabbath but ignores everything else in the same passage (Ezekiel 22:26)

Kim quotes Ezekiel 22:26 as proof that disregarding the Sabbath profanes God. Mike shows the verse also mentions distinctions between holy/common and clean/unclean — the entire Levitical system.

Ezekiel 22:26 proof-texting Joo-Cheol Kim Sabbath
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-22

Even if December 25 had pagan associations, God does not reject sincere worship of Christ offered on that day — the idea that a date determines whether God accepts prayer is biblically baseless

Mike makes the theological argument that the day of worship does not determine its validity before God.

law vs. grace Christian liberty Christmas
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-16

Both men discuss the aftermath of 1 Kings 18 — the people and prophets respond differently; suppression-to-profession vs. unbelief-to-belief

Continued exegesis and debate over 1 Kings 18

Romans 1 1 Kings 18 Romans 1 knowledge of God suppression of truth
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-16

Romans 2 and conscience: Gentiles do by nature what the law requires, showing the work of the law written on their hearts — grounds their accountability in certain knowledge, not probability

Sye's argument from Romans 2 for the certainty of moral knowledge in all people

Romans 2 Romans 2 accountability general revelation
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-16

Winger's anecdote: his 10-year-old nephew had never heard of God — counter-evidence to the claim that all people consciously know God exists

Winger's experiential challenge to Sye's universal knowledge claim

Romans 1 accountability general revelation Romans 1
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-16

Q: Does God killing babies make it okay for humans? Winger dismisses the question as absurd; Sye says context of OT law must be applied and God has prerogative over life

Audience challenge question; ethical objection to Old Testament

divine sovereignty Old Testament ethics God's prerogative over life
Mike Winger idea 2018-10-17

Old Testament law assigns different penalties to different sins, which itself demonstrates that God does not treat all sin the same.

Mike begins his Old Testament survey by pointing to the differentiated penal codes in the Mosaic law.

Exodus 22 sin Old Testament law penalty
Mike Winger idea 2018-10-17

The 'eye for an eye' passage (Exodus 21:22) establishes proportional justice, not revenge, and further proves that sins are not equal in God's legal framework.

Mike unpacks the lex talionis principle, which is commonly misquoted as a license for personal revenge.

Exodus 21 sin Old Testament law eye for an eye
Mike Winger idea 2018-10-17

Deuteronomy 25 provides a catch-all principle: punishment is to be 'in proportion to the offense,' explicitly grounding proportional justice in God's law.

Mike examines a general sentencing passage in Deuteronomy to show that the proportionality principle is not limited to specific crimes but is a foundational legal principle.

Deuteronomy 25 sin Old Testament law hierarchy of sin
Mike Winger idea 2018-10-17

Hebrews 2:2 confirms that Old Testament punishments were morally just retributions, not merely symbolic — validating the OT penal code as a genuine moral revelation.

Mike anticipates a possible objection that the OT law was purely symbolic and therefore its differentiated penalties do not reveal moral truths about sin.

Hebrews 2:2 hermeneutics Old Testament law hierarchy of sin
Mike Winger idea 2018-10-17

1 Kings 16:25 — Omri 'did more evil than all who were before him,' implying qualitative, not merely quantitative, differences in wickedness.

Mike moves from the law to narrative descriptions of individuals to show that Scripture uses qualitative language about degrees of evil.

1 Kings 16:25 hierarchy of sin 1 Kings 16:25 Omri
Mike Winger idea 2018-10-17

Hebrews 10:28-29 — Rejecting the gospel of Christ deserves a worse punishment than violating the Mosaic law, establishing a clear hierarchy between sins.

Mike examines a key New Testament passage that explicitly compares the severity of two different categories of sin.

Hebrews 10:28-29 hierarchy of sin Hebrews 10:28-29 rejection of gospel
Mike Winger idea 2018-10-17

James 2:10 does not teach that all sins are identical; it teaches that breaking any one point of the law makes a person a law-breaker before the same Lawgiver — a relational, not equivalence, statement.

Mike addresses the primary proof-text used to argue all sin is the same and offers an exegesis that resolves the apparent tension.

James 2:10 James 2:11 Romans 3:23 hermeneutics exegesis James 2:10
Mike Winger idea 2018-10-17

Smoking is not categorically sinful — it depends on frequency, addiction, and bodily harm; 1 Corinthians 6 ('I will not be mastered by anything') is the relevant test.

Q&A section: a viewer asks whether smoking is a sin.

1 Corinthians 6:12 Romans 14 conscience body as temple Christian living
Mike Winger idea 2018-12-12

Zahnd deliberately misrepresents Exodus 21 on slavery to children at a youth camp in order to discredit the Bible

Winger plays and responds to a video clip of Zahnd describing how he used Exodus 21:20–21 at a youth camp to provoke students into rejecting the Bible's moral authority.

Exodus-21 hermeneutics discernment apologetics
Mike Winger idea 2018-12-12

Luke 16:16–17 and Matthew 5:17–18 show Jesus's own high view of Scripture — he came to fulfill, not edit, the law

Winger marshals Jesus's direct statements about the permanence and authority of Scripture to counter Zahnd's 'Jesus edits the Bible' method.

Matthew-5-17 Luke-16-17 Mark-12-36 law apologetics Jesus