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Scripture Commentary article 2024-09-03

Where Mike Winger Went Wrong on Women

Comprehensive response to the entire Mike Winger Women in Ministry video series (Parts 1-13)

1 Cor 14:35-36 1 Corinthians 11:10 1 Corinthians 11:12 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2024-06-19

The Debates Over 1 Timothy 2

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the debates over 1 Timothy 2:11-15

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Corinthians 10:11 1 Corinthians 12:1-11 1 Timothy 2 Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2023-01-19

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: The Head Covering Debates (1 Cor 11)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 10 on the head covering debates in 1 Corinthians 11

1 Corinthians 11:10 1 Corinthians 11:11 1 Corinthians 11:11-12 1 Corinthians 11 Headship & Kephale Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2022-11-25

What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Women Leaders in the New Testament (PART A)

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 4 on women leaders in the New Testament (Part A)

1 Cor. 12:1–30 1 Corinthians 1:11 1 Corinthians 1:16 Women in Leadership Complementarianism Debates
Scripture Commentary article 2017-06-07

Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free? Part 4: 1 Timothy 2 Deception & the First Created

[Music] 1 Timothy Chapter 2 has been a difficult passage for Bible interpreters because of several hard to understand verses yet while Paul's reasoning is thought to be somewhat obscure this chapter has been seen by some as the clearest passage that says when women are not allowed to teach or to hav...

1 Timothy 1:13 1 Timothy 2:1 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2 Adam & Eve Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2010-04-29

Why Let Women Lead Bible Studies

CBMW (Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood) has set itself up as a go-to organization for those complementarians who have not been able to figure out from the Bible which things are allowable for women and which things are not. But does their counsel exceed the Bible

Hebrews 14 1 Corinthians 14 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2010-03-01

Women More Easily Deceived

Another reason some complementarians claim for denying women opportunities to minister in the church is that it is said that women are more easily deceived than men so men alone are permitted to minister in the church. A good example of this kind of rationale is found here with this excerpt:

1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2:14 1 Timothy 2:15 1 Timothy 2 1 Corinthians 14 Genesis & Creation
Scripture Commentary article 2009-09-30

Neopatriarch Once Again Fails To Refute Cheryl Schatz

## Challenging my position that 1 Timothy 2:15 is a single woman

1 Timothy 2:10 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2:11-12 1 Timothy 2 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-05-13

Paul Women Pastors 8

This is the eighth in a series of simulated interviews with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day

1 Timothy 3:1 1 Timothy 3:1-7 1 Timothy 3:2 Women in Leadership Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-04-02

5 Apostle Paul They

This post is the fifth one of a simulated interview with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day

1 Timothy 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2:13 1 Timothy 2 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-03-25

Round 4 Interview With The Apostle Paul

This post is the fourth one of a simulated interview with the Apostle Paul taken from the position of what he might say if we could transport Paul from the New Testament account through a time tunnel into our present day

1 Thessalonians 4:16 1 Timothy 2:11 1 Timothy 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2 Complementarianism
Scripture Commentary article 2009-01-15

They Are Sinning Through Questioning

The issue of women in ministry allows us to the opportunity to ask questions about the hard passages of scripture and to work through these passages to discover God’s intended meaning through the inspired context. But in many quarters, questioning is a “sin” that will get a reprimand from a strong a

1 Peter 5:1-3 Jeremiah 23:1 Titus 1:7 Women in Leadership Complementarianism Spiritual Abuse
Scripture Commentary article 2008-11-07

Modern Myths About The Titus 2 Woman

When the issue of women in ministry is brought up, one of the scripture passages that is used as a slam-dunk women-must-stay-in-the-home passage is Titus 2:3-5. Is this passage really about women restricted to the area of the home with cooking, cleaning and raising children, or are women allowed by

1 Timothy 3:11 1 Timothy 5:14 Esther 2 Authority & Submission Spiritual Gifts Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary article 2008-05-17

Woman Representative

This post is an answer to Matt Slicks article called “1 Timothy 2:9-15 “a woman” is representative of all women as “a man”represents all men”

1 Corinthians 11:10 1 Corinthians 11:11 1 Corinthians 11:12 1 Timothy 2
Scripture Commentary article 2006-12-02

What Does 1 Timothy 211 15 Mean

I was challenged to present my view of 1 Timothy 2:11-15 on another blog and I thought it would be good to summarize my view on my own blog. Here is the teaching from “Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free

1 Timothy 1:11-15 1 Timothy 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2 Adam & Eve Women in Leadership
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-31

@StevenMKestner The one who aspires the role of an overseer desires a good thing. In addition to being sound in the faith, the person is to be: 1. Above reproach 2. Faithful to their spouse (if married); teaches one-man-one-woman monogamous relation...

@StevenMKestner The one who aspires the role of an overseer desires a good thing. In addition to being sound in the faith, the person is to be: 1. Above reproach 2. Faithful to their spouse (if marri

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-07

@JollyStine @MegaChurchMouse @CatherineMcNiel @William_E_Wolfe Yes...and notice how Paul says in Titus 2:3, "Older women likewise..."⎯did Paul mean that only older men are to be temperate, dignified, self-controlled, sound in faith in love and in per...

@JollyStine @MegaChurchMouse @CatherineMcNiel @William_E_Wolfe Yes...and notice how Paul says in Titus 2:3, "Older women likewise..."⎯did Paul mean that only older men are to be temperate, dignified,

Titus 2:3 1 Tim 3:11 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-06

@CatherineMcNiel @MegaChurchMouse @William_E_Wolfe Titus 2:3-5 primarily addresses older women, instructing them to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, and so train the young women to love t...

@CatherineMcNiel @MegaChurchMouse @William_E_Wolfe Titus 2:3-5 primarily addresses older women, instructing them to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach wh

Titus 2:3-5 general
Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 2:11-15

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Timothy 2:11-15 specific woman,deception,authenteo,grammar,perfect tense,future tense,anaphoric,egalitarian,ephesus,teknogonia,singular plural,historical perfect,verbal aspect,paul as pattern
Theology verse entry

Psalm 109:8

Sections: cross_references, exegesis, greek_analysis

Psalm 109:8 apostolate,office,episkope,Matthias,Judas,replacement
Theology verse entry

Titus 2:3-5

Sections: debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Titus 2:3-5 older women,teaching,presbutidas,domestic myths,egalitarian,women in ministry
Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 3:1-4

Sections: greek_analysis

1 Timothy 3:1-4 elder,overseer,pastor,qualifications,women,tis,husband-of-one-wife,polygamy
Theology verse entry

Genesis 3:14-19

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Genesis 3:14-19 fall,curse,consequences,serpent,Eve,Adam,pain,thorns,death,not prescriptive,protoevangelium,seed of the woman,Messiah,teknogonia,desire,rule,teshuqah,mashal,egalitarian,complementarian,patriarchy
Theology verse entry

1 Timothy 2:8-10

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 Timothy 2:8-10 prayer,men,women,anger,dissension,modesty,good works,kosmios,sophrosyne,aidos,likewise,Ephesus,false teaching,egalitarian,plural to singular transition
Theology verse entry

Acts 1:16-26

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

Acts 1:16-26 Judas,betrayal,foreknowledge,sovereignty,prophecy fulfillment,predestination,free will,apostolate,Matthias,Paul,twelve,lot,human initiative
Theology greek term

τεκνογονία (teknogonia)

the childbearing

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Theology greek term

σῴζω (sozo)

to save

greek
Theology greek term

ἐπισκοπή (episkopē)

office, oversight, supervision

greek
Theology greek term

πρεσβύτιδας (presbutidas)

older women, female elders

greek
Theology greek term

σωφροσύνη (sophrosyne)

sound-mindedness, self-control, discretion

greek
Theology greek term

πρεσβύτερος (presbuteros)

elder, older man; church overseer/leader by seniority

greek
Mike Winger idea 2022-04-13

Titus 2:3: 'older women' uses a different Greek word (presbytis), not the elder office term

Mike addresses a less common egalitarian proof text.

Titus 2:3-5 presbuteros Titus 2:3-5 presbytis
Mike Winger idea 2022-04-13

1 Timothy 3:1-7: elder requirements are distinctly masculine

Mike reads the definitive passage on elder qualifications.

1 Timothy 3:1-7 overseer elder qualifications able to teach
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-30

Titus 2:3-5 — older women are to teach younger women; a biblical case for women's teaching ministry outside eldership

Mike provides a scriptural example of women teaching in appropriate contexts.

Titus 2:3-5 Titus 2:3-5 women's ministry women teaching
Mike Winger idea 2022-08-15

Titus 2:3-10 refutes the 'careful balancing act' theory about Ephesians 5

Mike uses Titus 2 to show Paul doesn't always balance instructions to both sexes.

Titus 2:3-10 Titus 2:3-10 imbalanced instructions careful balancing theory
Mike Winger idea 2022-08-15

Titus 2 as test case: 'that the word of God may not be reviled' doesn't make things merely cultural

Mike provides extended analysis of whether evangelistic purpose equals cultural binding.

Titus 2:1-10 word of God not reviled Titus 2:1-10 cultural vs transcultural
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

The 'spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets' means self-control, not a hierarchy

Mike interprets verse 32 as a parenthetical about prophets' ability to control themselves.

1 Corinthians 14:32 hupotasso 1 Corinthians 14:32 prophetic self-control
Mike Winger idea 2023-11-22

View 5: Saved through the Messiah — the childbearing refers to Christ

Mike presents his preferred interpretation: 'saved through childbearing' refers to salvation through the promised Messiah born of Eve's line.

1 Timothy 2:15 Genesis 3:15 Eve 1 Timothy 2:15 Messianic interpretation
Mike Winger idea 2018-02-07

Q&A: Discussion of 'holy laughter' — Mike applies a spectrum approach, differentiating between Spirit-inspired joy and loss of self-control, the latter being inconsistent with the fruit of the Spirit.

Viewer question about holy laughter from DecideScroll.

Galatians 5:22-23 charismatic movement holy laughter fruit of the Spirit
Mike Winger idea 2017-12-27

Tip 7: Take practical steps — lofty goals require specific, actionable commitments

Seventh and final tip. Mike insists that all the prior steps require concrete behavioral change to produce results.

marriage self-control practical discipleship
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-14

Proverbs 15:18 — being hot-tempered stirs up strife and is a sin issue, not a personality trait; being slow to anger quiets contention.

Second Proverbs passage applied to people who normalize their hot temper.

Proverbs 15:18 self-control relationships Proverbs 15:18
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-14

Proverbs 16:32 — being slow to anger and ruling one's spirit is a greater achievement than military conquest or social status.

Third Proverbs passage; Mike reframes the cultural value of strength and accomplishment.

Proverbs 16:32 self-control humility character
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-14

Proverbs 27:4 — anger and wrath are intensifying forces that cause a person to overreact and become a caricature of themselves.

Fifth Proverbs passage; Mike describes the distorting effect of anger on behavior.

Proverbs 27:4 marriage self-control anger
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-14

Proverbs 25:28 — a man without self-control is like a city with broken walls; anger is the enemy that raids it.

Seventh Proverbs passage; illustrated with a statistic about job loss.

Proverbs 25:28 self-control anger character
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-14

Wrath (Colossians 3:8) is the outward expression of anger — the outburst; James 1:19 commands slow speech as the antidote.

Distinction between anger (the feeling) and wrath (the expression); applied to marriage and conflict.

Colossians 3:8 James 1:19 marriage self-control Colossians 3:8
Mike Winger idea 2019-03-13

1 Timothy 2:11-15 context: instructions to men (avoid anger/quarreling in prayer) and women (modesty, inner vs. outer beauty).

Lady D asks about 1 Timothy 2:11-15 regarding women being silent and not having authority.

1 Timothy 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2:8-10 1 Timothy 2:11-15 Modesty 1 Timothy 2:8-10
Mike Winger idea 2019-03-13

Ephesians 5:18 — "be filled with the Spirit" is a CONTRAST to being drunk with wine, not a comparison; "drunk in the Spirit" is a misreading.

Mike addresses "drunk in the Spirit" and "slain in the Spirit" claims.

Galatians 5:22-23 Ephesians 5:18 Galatians 5:22-23 Ephesians 5:18 Drunk in the Spirit
Mike Winger idea 2019-03-13

Slain in the Spirit is unbiblical; drunk/slain/shaking in the Spirit are all contrary to "self-control" as fruit of the Spirit.

Continuing the critique of charismatic practices.

Galatians 5:22-23 Benny Hinn Galatians 5:22-23 Fruit of the Spirit
Mike Winger idea 2019-10-02

Gandhi as a test case for "good people" — his nightly nude sleeping with other women, including nieces

Response to the common invocation of Gandhi as the exemplar of a good non-Christian

apologetics grace human nature
Mike Winger idea 2020-09-04

1 Timothy 2:9 is not a strict prohibition on jewelry but a tendency warning against valuing external beauty over godliness

Exposition of 1 Timothy 2:9 in the context of Paul's instruction to women about conduct in the church.

1 Timothy 2:9 godliness 1 Timothy 2:9 jewelry
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