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Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-01-28

@ThePastorBurris Unlimited atonement, reconciliation limited to those whose fait

@ThePastorBurris Unlimited atonement, reconciliation limited to those whose faith is in Christ.

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Theology verse entry

1 John 2:2

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis, greek_analysis

1 John 2:2 soteriology,atonement,unlimited atonement,propitiation,Calvinism,scope of atonement,hilasmos
Theology verse entry

2 Corinthians 5:14-15

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis

2 Corinthians 5:14-15 soteriology,atonement,unlimited atonement,Calvinism,scope of atonement,substitutionary death
Theology verse entry

John 3:16

Sections: cross_references, debate_points, exegesis

John 3:16 soteriology,atonement,unlimited atonement,Calvinism,kosmos,God's love,scope of atonement
Theology greek term

ἱλασμός (hilasmos)

propitiation, atoning sacrifice

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Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

Introduction: inside-baseball soteriology debate; response to James White on limited atonement

Mike opens the livestream framing the discussion as Calvinist vs. non-Calvinist soteriology, noting this is a response to James White's critique of Mike's earlier limited-atonement video.

James White James White Calvinism soteriology
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

Mike's overall conviction: Scripture clearly teaches Jesus died for everyone

Before diving into objections, Mike states his position and epistemic posture.

Scripture authority unlimited atonement universal atonement
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

Overview of five Calvinist objections to be addressed

Mike previews the full agenda for the video before working through each objection.

1 John 2:2 John Owen limited atonement 1 John 2:2 Trinitarian harmony in the atonement
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

Objection 2 stated: the failure of the Son

If Jesus died for all people and some go to hell, then Jesus failed at his task.

atonement limited atonement failure of the Son
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

Trinitarian harmony used as a theological trump card to override clear Scripture texts

Mike plays clips from White's video to demonstrate how Trinitarian harmony functions rhetorically in Calvinist argumentation.

James White James White limited atonement Trinitarian harmony in the atonement
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

1 John 2:2 refutes Trinitarian harmony: Jesus is propitiation for the whole world, not just believers

Mike applies 1 John 2:2 directly against the Trinitarian harmony argument.

1 John 2:2 kosmos 1 John 2:2 propitiation
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

1 Timothy 4:10 — God is the savior of all people, especially those who believe

Mike cites 1 Tim 4:10 as another clear text against limited atonement.

1 Timothy 4:10 1 Timothy 4:10 unlimited atonement extent vs. application
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

2 Peter 2:1 — false teachers "bought" by the master yet will face swift destruction

Mike uses 2 Peter 2:1 to show Christ purchased those who ultimately perish.

2 Peter 2:1 false teachers 2 Peter 2:1 unlimited atonement
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

Response to Trinitarian harmony #2: the Father can have complexity in his desires — saving all who believe

Mike offers a positive alternative to the Calvinist Trinitarian harmony construct.

Trinity faith unlimited atonement
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

1 Timothy 2:1-6 — God desires all people to be saved; Christ gave himself as ransom for all

Mike's central proof-text for the Father's universal salvific intention.

1 Timothy 2:1-6 unlimited atonement universal salvific will 1 Timothy 2:1-6
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

Calvinist interpretation of 1 Tim 2:1-6 refuted: "all kinds of people" reading fails

Mike engages and then rejects the standard Calvinist re-reading of 1 Timothy 2.

1 Timothy 2:1-6 hermeneutics Calvinism unlimited atonement
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

Extent vs. application: atonement intended for all, applied to those who believe

Mike's synthesis of the Father's intent in the atonement.

faith unlimited atonement extent vs. application
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

Romans 10:9-13 — the emphasis of Romans is on faith, not on limiting who Christ died for

Mike applies the theological logic of Romans to the limited atonement debate.

Romans 10:9-13 faith unlimited atonement genuine offer of salvation
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

Trinitarian harmony argument can be reversed: if Scripture says Christ died for all, the Father must have intended it

Mike turns the Trinitarian harmony argument back on the Calvinist position.

1 John 2:2 David Allen 1 John 2:2 unlimited atonement
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

Objection 2 answered: Jesus did not fail — his goal was to die for all so that whoever believes is saved

Mike rebuts the "failure of the Son" argument.

John 3:16 unlimited atonement failure of the Son extent vs. application
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

Objection 3 answered: intercession is available to all who draw near, not limited to a fixed elect group

Mike addresses the intercession objection using Hebrews 7:25.

James White Hebrews 7:25 James White unlimited atonement intercession
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

Hebrews intercession summary: Christ intercedes for whoever draws near, not a closed list of predetermined elect

Mike's final summary on the intercession argument.

Hebrews 7:25 election unlimited atonement intercession
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

John Owen's trilemma answered: extent and application are distinct; the trilemma conflates them

Mike's direct rebuttal to John Owen's trilemma / false dilemma.

John Owen faith universalism unlimited atonement
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

Christ's work is not applied until belief; payment and application are two distinct moments

Positive resolution to the double payment problem.

faith imputation unlimited atonement
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

Legal pardon analogy: a rejected pardon does not eliminate the sentence

Mike uses a legal illustration to support his double payment response.

divine justice unlimited atonement double jeopardy / double payment
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

1 John 4:3-5 and 5:19 — "the whole world lies under the power of the evil one" confirms kosmos is non-elect

Clinching evidence for the meaning of kosmos in 1 John from chapter 5.

1 John 4:3-5 1 John 5:19 limited atonement kosmos 1 John 4:3-5
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

"World" in 1 John 2:2 refers to people, not structures — and "our sins" parallels individual people

Rebutting a possible Calvinist reading of kosmos as referring to world systems.

1 John 2:2 hermeneutics kosmos 1 John 2:2
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

Application of atonement through faith is not a "secondary act of atonement"

Mike responds to the Calvinist rhetorical slogan that non-Calvinism requires a second atonement act.

atonement Calvinism unlimited atonement
Mike Winger idea 2019-07-24

Closing: Scripture texts for unlimited atonement still stand; Calvinist trump concepts do not override them

Mike's final assessment of the debate.

James White hermeneutics James White Scripture authority
Mike Winger idea 2020-04-15

Can you lose salvation if Jesus paid for your sins? Depends on your view of the atonement. Calvinist (limited atonement): Jesus only paid for the elect's sins, so losing salvation would mean he 'unpaid' — impossible. Non-Calvinist (unlimited atonement): Jesus paid for all sins; the APPLICATION is upon those who receive Christ. If someone walks away, it's not that payment was reversed but that they left the relationship.

Losing salvation and the extent of the atonement

perseverance of the saints eternal security eternal security